TheNewLadder32

Pierce Mfg. and FAW of China made a agreement that Pierce build Rescue and Pumper bodies for China to be mounted on FAW chassis. Interesting to me.... does anyone see this as good marketing on Pierce's behalf ?

http://www.piercemfg.com/en/pierce/news/Pierce-in-China.aspx

I get what their trying to do here but wouldn't it be easier to just get a truck like the Pierce water towers which are 55-61' FT or something like the E-one teleboom which is 50' FT ? Just my opinion then you wouldn't worry about your tail slap and would still get your regular engine configuration.

One of two new marked police interceptors for White Plains we have a highway patrol one with ghost lettering as well as a new police interceptor suv with ghost lettering as well. I do not know how many of these White Plains is getting but we have three for right now.

I don't know the specifics of this truck but Dartmouth, MA (south coast near/New Bedford) has/had a similar type ladder. I haven't see too many in MA.

http://www.firenews....rtmouthD2L2.jpg

Thats exactly what are Ladder 34 looks like but with a ford chassis instead.

truck looks so top heavy.

Ladder is a little longer thren the actual chassis itself.

Yes there is another newer tandem axel commercial aerial. Check out New Berlin's Truck 4. Its a quad-cab Freight Liner '10 or '11 model) set up on the 105' Raptor by Rosenbauer. Just google up New Berlin Fire Department in images and you can see. It's a nice rig.

Thanks ill check it out but does any one know if there were any other fords from that year like that ?

Can you elaborate on the rigs he said would be replaced in the next 3 years? (i.e. What companies will be getting the new rigs?)

All I know is Tower Ladder 6 in 2015 and I think 65 & 67 will be getting replaced in 2014 as he said two new engines just before the Tower Ladder.

I have been away from White Plains now for fifteen years. And all the guys I knew in WPFD are retired. So maybe this is a dumb question but....

How did they operate with Tower Ladder 6 and Truck 33? (That was a Ford cab?) Weren't both assigned to Station Two and, IIRC, around the same time period?

Ladder 33 has been the spare ladder in White Plains for as long as I can remember as im not that old so it operated until White Plains bought the Tower Ladder 6 they have now then it went strictly to spare. They were not assigned at the same time period as the one you see pictured above became a spare in 2009 when the new Ladder 32 came in replacing that truck which was 32. Also it is a Ford cab.

Talked to the chief about the new ladder way behind schedule parts were delayed and delivery is delayed in advance says truck wont be here till November. Also told me about the future trucks that will be bought in the next 3 years.

I belive the reason why most of the WPFD's fleet has commercial cabs is to make repairs easier for the city garage/shops, as all of the city's trucks/DPW fleet have commercial cabs as well.

You are right thats why the engines are the same as the garbage trucks.

I believe the exact make/model/style of the rig is unique to White Plains, but there are many aerials w/commercial chassis out there. Most I've seen are single-axle quints, like WPFD's old Ladder 34.

By the way, is that Station 2 on Ferris Ave.?

Yes that is Station 2 it was in as a spare and I know there are many commercial aerials but I was wondering have there been any other tandem axle quint/ non-quint 105' ft aerials like this.

Hey I was just wondering has there ever been another ladder exactly like this one from White Plains as it is rare and very different. And I know it was done by the city but just wondering if there is another truck close or just like it.

Update New Ladder 32 is coming begin to mid August it is delayed a little as I said before.

I agree it looks like they did a great job, a fire that could've easily gotten out-of-control.

As a former White Plains resident I am a bit confused. If the IA is correct it looks like the initial engine company assignment was Engs. 66 and 67. Normally the assignment would be (I think) Engs 65, 70 and possibly 71. So that sounds like something was else was going on at the same time on the south side of White Plains.

If I can ask a question without ruffling any feathers, the IA shows Eng 71 was requested by 2512 at 12:28 PM, two hours after WPPD first requested that Fire respond. As far as I know Eng 74 is North White Plains.

Went by the station and talked to the guys Engines 65 & 70 were at drill school at the time of the call so they couldnt make it. And Engine 74 is North White Plains not White Plains.

Thanks I did not know that.

Wonder what happens to TL6 when the new truck arrives?

Tower Ladder 6 will stay until White Plains orders a new Tower Ladder in another maybe 3-5 years.

Paper had said they had 18 ff's. Is that what's considered the norm for WP or is that a lot?

That is actually not the norm for White Plains maybe they had 18 ff's at the scene but we should have about 27-30 ff's in service providing we have 3 ff's per rig and have 9 pieces of apparatus in service. Maybe the IA was a little off because I dont think you need three aerials at a house fire such as this one and having put spare rigs in service never heard that before so idk bout it as I wasnt there nor did I hear when the call came out. And

Sorry, yes I think that is the ALF delivered in 2009, though I admit I was thinking it was delivered more recently then that. In any event, it's the first time I recall seeing this truck in a photo in this forum.

Noteworthy I think is that it's the first ALF rig WPFD has put in service in over fifty years. I think the last ALF was WPFD Truck 33 which came in 1957. At that time ALL three truck companies had ALFs. They were all replaced by Maxims during the 1970s.

Actually tommyguy White Plains has had 2 different American Lafrances in service in 50 years Tower Ladder 6 is a Metropolitan/ American Lafrance and the old Engine 70 now 71 is a Freightliner/ American Lafrance.

It indeed was a great stop by WPFD as only west side of the house i think suffered all the damage as the east was untouched so they got there fast and made a great stop. White Plains also wasnt understaffed if you see the IA they had all three ladder companies there three engines and a rescue they even put spares into service as the manpower either went up or was a last second decision. And lol at (x4093k) that isnt the newest Ladder 32 it is the 2009 one i think are ladder will probably be delayed just like this one was as it is coming from American Lafrance from what im hearing so we might have to sit tight for a while and keep using our modo use what you got and try to go with less.

County: Westchester

City/Town/Municipality/Dept: White Plains Fire Department

Unit Designation/Identifier: Ladder 32

Chassis & Body (or Aerial) Manufacturer & Model: American Lafrance

Pump size, Tank size (water/foam) Aerial type & length: 100+ Foot Aerial Ladder

Estimated Delivery Date: Mid July 2012

Status: In Production

Notes: Will replace current Ladder 32, current Ladder 32 will go to Ladder 34 replacing a 1994 Ford/Smeal 75' foot quint.

http://www.sntrl.com/car-life/lamborghini-mercy-rapid-response-unit/

Although this was made as a tribute would you say this is a waste of money because do they really use it as it is lettered Rapid Response. So wouldnt that mean if they do use it they would have to man it, maintain it, and how much would it really be able to carry besides a med pack because it definatly isnt equipped with a pump of any other fire fighting rescue tools.

White Plains is having there's this Saturday May 19th 1-4pm at Headquartes on 219 Mamaroneck Avenue.

People are wondering didnt they pay there taxes, of course you did you really paid the politicians its a scam as said before. Its kind of like the old days they tell you one thing you believe your getting what you pay for but in return its nothing kind of like a Bernie Madoff taking peoples hard earned money and using it for there personal needs. When what we really need if Fire and Police and then theres the certain people who blame us for using tax dollars for worthless things like training, apparatus, equipment, and much more because supposebly we do nothing but whats expected of us when in return its not true and its actually what we need. Will we ever have truthful politicians or will this world always be a corupt place like the past 100 years.

I would say that articulated aerials were at one time much more popular then they are now. In Westchester, I know Mount Vernon, Verplank and Bedford Hills had articulated platforms. Chicago basically invented the snorkel, but now only has one company that use them. Same thing with a lot of departments in New England. I was reading something the other day, they were very prone to accidents, though and attributed in LODD's from coast to coast.

Personally, I think they are great especially in tight urban areas with numerous obstacles or departments with complicated industrial facilites.

The con, is that they are really expensive to purchase and maintain, and in many cases, a very difficult device that requires a lot of training and experience to operate safely.

Interesting I did not know that they were unsafe i did know they cost a buck. I thought they were safe but i guess with all the high draulics itz probably not. And wow I also did not know about the LODD's it caused scary.

Hey just wanted to share this found it on the Spartan ERV website a 138' Foot Articulated Aerial. I guess with new name new products or maybe a work in art for a while? Thoughts ,comments, also would you say it is kind of copying Bronto and Rosenbauer ? Also do you think articulated aerials are big in the U.S. ?

http://www.spartanerv.com/product.aspx?id=40206

Hey just had a quick question why doesnt Rescue 3 run out of quarters with Engine 93 an Tower Ladder 45 anymore ? Was Rescue 3 the only Rescue in New York at the time ? Thanks for the replys.

From what I can see non of these apparatuses have license plates.