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My oh my how the times they have a-changed. First thing, I personally want to give the original poster a pass (just my opinion) for the way this thing got broken out into a new topic. I admit he did overreact to what was done, but I personally understand his point. I also understand the moderators point, so lets let it go everybody? There's more important things going on right now than to bicker over how this became it's own thread.
But now that it is, let's take a look at what happened. The chief in question, it's my understanding he wasn't the most popular of chiefs, but who ever is? He put basically his whole life into an organization of 10,000, and rose to the top. But because we are all so conditioned to think firefighting/policing/EMSing are SERVANT careers, it's done for free in so many places too, etc., it brings peoples' blood to boiling when they read something like this.
Yet the payouts to the bankers who have made such a mess of the economy; nobody blinks when they see 50 million dollars, 20 million dollars to this or that executive of an investment bank. We are conditioned to accept the fact that bankers make huge money, but somehow firefighters should be "kept as servants."
The pension costs are going up for the NYCP&FPS (different from the state) because of how many 9/11 ailments the Brothers are contracting. The FDNY does breathing tests. If you can't pass it, you're out. So, the city has to pay for the additional costs. and is that so much to ask for the sacrifices the FDNY members have made since 9/11? How many of you personally know a Brother with 9/11 related illness? I happen to know two.
You know what Zadroga is about from an FDNY member's standpoint? It's about those sick members wanting to see to it that their wives continue to get their pensions if their ailments turn into cancer and they die.
Think about that.
Is that so greedy? Is it so greedy that a chief who served over 40 years of his life, probably had more than his fair share of risky moments during his career, probably saved a few lives along the way, which is more than you can say about the banker walking out the door with a 20 million dollar severance package, that he gets a quarter million a year?
Why the outrage? Why have so many forgotten so quickly? In the aftermath of 9/11, there were the famous people out there talking about how the FDNY was going to get better pay and compensation going forward. You know what Rudy gave them in the two years after 9/11? ZERO and ZERO percent contract. Where did the talking heads go? They had their moment in the spotlight, on the deaths of hundreds of Brothers backs, and where did they go? What did they accomplish? Where are they now when the FDNY needs them badly?
They want the Engine officers to start doling out tickets for car fires and accidents. They are going to be trained in A.I. They are going to wind up in courts in the middle of battles.
And yet, the department readies plans to shutter and brown out companies at night.
Where did the RESPECT go? Time.......leads people to forget. And then add in an anti-union rag like the NY POST, making a big deal about the chief, enraging people against the fire department. Nice job Mr. Murdoch, now please return to the Land Down Under from which you came and belong.
Listen guys and gals, the working class people in this country are under attack. I posted a link here recently showing the average payouts from the NYSP&FRS. It's NOWHERES near what this city chief is making. The State fund is 107 percent funded right now, the healthiest in the country. Good planning, now just watch your politicians don't go and screw with that, which is what they are trying to do.
Whenever politicians see money sitting there, set aside and invested for the working people, they can't resist trying to get their greedy little hands on it. Well hands off the pension system, and you know what? New York city residents are going to have to PAY UP for the pensions that the Brothers need, especially the sick ones. It's the least they can do in the aftermath of our country's worst homeland attack in our history. and i'm sure Manhattan real estate is still going to rise past the average million dollars for 600 square feet. They'll survive. The chief gets to live good for his remaining years; why begrudge him? Why vilify him?
NEVER FORGET, we all love to say it, wrap that Flag around our shoulders. Yet do we forget when we vilify some FDNY members because the NY POST says we should?
Think about it.

Here's a few shots of FDNY's newest apparatus. Tower Ladder 46 was placed in service last Wednesday (?) and the on-duty crew was generous enough to pose it in front of quarters for members and guests of the New Jersey Metro Fire Photographers Association this past Sunday.

Yea but how much would be collectible? haha. I wouldn't get too worked up. This is just political posturing and has no chance of going into effect. Bloomy says this is a scare tactic so the legislature will bend and give the FDNY the funding they need (or something along those lines).
It would definitely cause serious problems of accidents/fires not getting reported, and lawsuits for times when a bystander called. How can you legally enforce a charge when you weren't even the one who requested the service?

Thank you George and Kurt! I am looking forward to the challenge, it will be a great year!

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Republicans voted en-mass against the bill. They're not giving anybody anything unless they get their billionaires tax cuts. Nice job Republicans, message to sick and dying from 9/11: DROP DEAD!
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/new_york&id=7831203&rss=rss-wabc-article-7831203

How about people go after the white collar morons who bankrupted the NYS pension system in the first place? The pension system was so flush with cash 10 years ago that all it's assets could have been invested in rock solid zero risk investment products and cash flow itself for 50 years with no further contributions from employees. They were so flush they allowed municipalities to defer payments to the system because they were unnecessary! Problem is that the pension fund managers who make (yes still make) 7 figure salaries plus huge bonus' were over-aggressive with THE MONEY PARTICIPANTS IN THE NYS PENSION SYSTEM CONTRIBUTED and BLEW BILLIONS OF THEIR DOLLARS. Now these same people that lost a ton of our money vilify the civil servant as the bad guys... Civil servants didn't create this problem, which now rests squarely on the backs of NYS tax payers. Blame the guy in the monkey suite, not the bunker pants...
Five years ago when everybody and their brother was buying a McMansion was anyone jealous of the paycheck a fireman earned?

Date: 12/9/10
Time: 05:35
Location: 3901 Gomer Court (Off of E Main St) Town of Yorktown "Jefferson Valley Collision"
Frequencies: 46.26 / 453.275 / Fire 17 / FG 1 / MVAC
LMFD Units Operating: 2261, 2262, E253, E258, L10, 69B1
YHFD Units Operating: 2533, E270 FAST
MFFD Units Operating: 19-6-1
MFD Units Operating: 18-2-1, 18-7-1
CVFD Units Operating: 2132, E231
PVFD Units Operating:
YVAC Units Operating: 86B1?, 34 Medics
SFD EMS Units Operating: 80B2, U88 (RAC)
WCDES Units Operating: Bat 16, C&O Zone 4 w/ 1404
Weather Conditions: Cold, 21 Degrees
Description Of Incident: Working fire in 30' x 50' 2 1/2 story dwelling attached to 100' x 100' auto body shop
Reporters: Remember585
Writer: Remember585
LoHud Article
Relocated to Mohegan HQ: 2341, 2342, TL45 (Peekskill FD) & 88B1 (Cortlandt VAC)
05:35 - L10, E253, E258 dispatched to reported structure fire. 60 Control advising multiple calls on it.
05:39 - 60 Control advising responding units one person possibly trapped per YPD.
05:40 - E253 reports fully involved house fire, still not on scene.
05:41 - 10-75 transmitted. E253 has a propane tank that already "let go."
05:41 - 60 Control dispatching Yorktown FAST, Mahopac Falls Cascade, Mohegan VAC & Bat 17 to the scene.
05:42 - E253 to 2262, fully involved and reports from units on scene all occupants are out.
05:43 - 2261 requesting a Ladder to HQ and send one Tanker from "somewhere."
05:45 - Peekskill TL45 dispatched to cover Mohegan HQ.
05:46 - 60 Control dispatching Battalion 10. 2261 cancelling the Tanker.
05:48 - E270 responding. 2262 requesting Con Ed Electric to the scene. Battalion 16 dispatched.
05:49 - 2262 reports an auto body shop on first floor with a residence above, 30' x 50'.
05:50 - 2262 requesting Con Ed to "step it up."
05:52 - 19-6-1 responding.
05:54 - "L10, as soon as the PD car moves, I want you to set up in the rear," per 2262.
05:55 - "E258 to the hydrant, send me water!"
05:56 - "2262 to the hydrant on E Main St, shut it down, I have a situation." 19-6-1 on location.
05:57 - "2261 to 60 Control dispatch an Engine from Mahopac, we need manpower here."
05:59 - E270 on location.
06:02 - Units reporting partial collapse, E258 has no water, 2262 reports "we're working on it."
06:03 - "2261 to all units, switch to Fire Ground 1."
06:05 - 18-2-1 responding. 69B1 transporting 1 to WMC.
06:06 - 2261 requesting Yorktown Highway Department for salt, "we're falling all over the place."
06:12 - 18-2-1 on location.
06:18 - Bat 16 on location, 2261 requesting the C&O Team to the scene. DC41 reports "Ladder operation is underway."
06:19 - C&O Zone 4 dispatched. Mohegan VAC, 39M2, U18 dispatched to an EMS call.
06:23 - Bat 16 requesting an update on the electric company, please put a 2nd call in, we have a hazardous condition.
06:25 - 60 Control advising Con Ed crew assigned, should be there in 15-20 minutes.
06:28 - 60 Control advising Bat 16 that Con Ed reports they have a rep on scene.
06:29 - Bat 16 requesting run down of EMS units on scene, 60 Control reports a YVAC rig and Yorktown Medic.
06:31 - Unknown unit reporting, "not enough pressure on this line over here."
06:32 - Bat 16 requesting 1 Ambulance to cover Mohegan and 1 Ambulance to the scene.
06:34 - Cortlandt VAC dispatched to Mohegan HQ for coverage.
06:38 - New Channel 4 Chopper showing live video, fire appears to be darkening down.
06:41 - Bat 16 reports units making progress, exposure issue is a 100 x 100 body shop, 4 L/S/O and 1 Ladder Pipe.
06:44 - 2261 requesting two ambulances total on scene at all times. YVAC is transporting unknown #.
06:47 - News Channel 4 Chopper reports business is "Jefferson Valley Collision."
06:48 - Bat 16 requesting Somers Rehab to the scene. Carmel VAC & Somers EMS have been requested to the scene.
06:49 - 1404 responding.
06:53 - 60 Control reports that YVAC is going to be transporting 3 with smoke inhalation shortly.
06:54 - Bat 16 requesting Con Ed Gas to the scene.
07:06 - 1404 on location.
07:07 - 60 Control advising Bat 16 that 80B2, 18-7-1 on scene. Bat 16 reports exterior operation, fire darkening down, making progress.
07:22 - U88 (RAC) responding.
07:31 - U88 on location.
07:36 - 2261 declaring the fire under control.
07:39 - Bat 16 requesting Code Enforcement to the scene.
08:01 - 2261 reports they have an excavator coming, the building has to be torn down for total extinguishment.
08:02 - 2261 requesting manpower from Continental Village & Putnam Valley to the scene.
08:15 - 2132 on location.
08:16 - E232 responding. (Originally called in as E231, later corrected they were in E232).
08:27 - 24-2-1 responding.
09:13 - Yorktown FD units released.
10:00 - C&O units returning.
10:09 - Bat 16 reports Red Cross is on location.
10:15 - Bat 16 going in service.
10:28 - Continental Village units in service.
10:45 - 2261 requesting Yorktown Water Department to the scene.
11:00 - Mahopac & Mahopac Falls FD units in service.
11:08 - E254 & TL45 responding on a CO investigation.
12:05 - All units clear from the scene. TL45 released from standby.

Note: This is strictly our experience with Class A foam!!!
In July 2007, our department converted all of its onboard foam systems from Class B foam to Class A foam; and issued a Department SOP that Class A foam hoselines will be the first hoselines stretched at most fires, unless otherwise directed by an officer.
Engine Company preconnected foam hoselines are 2 inch, pumped at 200 PSI, with Class A foam at 0.5 percent, and equipped with automatic gallonage combination nozzles.
Class B foam is still carried on our apparatus in 5 gallon containers for use with portable eductors.
This conversion was done for the following reasons:
All of our onboard foam systems were equipped with Class B foam, which was rarely used and regularly caused system maintenance problems.
A neighboring department reported remarkable success with Class A foam on vehicle and structure fires.
The added expense was not an issue, because of the very small percentages (0.5 to 1.0 percent) needed to be effective.
The department did extensive research, testing, and training to validate its implementation.
Since the above mentioned conversion, the following positive results have been observed:
The use of Class A foam at 0.5 percent on vehicle, dumpster, brush and structure fires has proven to be very effective. These fires are extinguished much more quickly, due to the foam’s penetrating and cooling properties; using much less water, with no resulting rekindles.
Quicker knockdowns with no rekindles greatly reduce firefighter stress and improve firefighter safety. Recently, we were confronted with heavy fire conditions at two structure fires and Class A foam proved most impressive. At both fires, the first hoseline stretched (2 inch Class A foam) and placed into operation darkened the fires down before the pump operator switched from tank to hydrant water.
There have been no maintenance problems since the above-mentioned conversion.
Our 2 ½ gallon pressurized water extinguishers have been supplemented with 8 ounces of Class A foam.
Class A foam at 1.0 percent has been found to be most effective for exposure protection.
Conclusion: Our current apparatus are only equipped with one foam system discharge. Future rigs will be designed with multiple foam system discharges.
From our experience there are no downsides to using Class A foam, in most situations, including the often cited criticism is that it is too expensive. At 0.5 percent, the foam is not used in great quantities: “We are only ‘topping off’ our foam tanks after every three or four uses.”
The benefits of increased firefighter safety and increased fire suppression efficiency far outweigh the costs of approximately $65 per 5 gallon container.

69 years, and most people today probably cant even tell you where Pearl Harbor is. I was lucky enough to visit in 2008, and it is a very moving experience seeing the USS Arizona Memorial. I heard more than one person remark about the oil that continues to seep out of the Arizona, like tear drops coming to the surface. As someone who took part in the rescue and recovery operations after 9/11, it gave me a better perspective of what those young sailors went through that morning. Actually hearing a Pearl Harbor survivor speak about events during the attack, really made it hit home. He had made his peace with everything that had happened, but the memories were still with him, like it was yesterday. Thankfully there are some of us today who understand the sacrifices made that day, and will continue to honor their memories today.

All photos copyright of Gus Stretz and cannot be used without consent

My interpretation of this cryptic message;
He bought this rig.
He's looking for photos and information about the rig when it belonged to Carmel.
Apparently he wants to restore it to what it looked like when Carmel owned it.
Question for the poster: Show us a photograph of what it looks like now, in your possession.
That should clear up whether this a joke or not.
Translation fee: $0

Photo #1- Engine 93 hits the hydrant and stretches a line to the structure
Photo #2- First on scene, prior to any police or fire units. Heavy fire Charlie/Delta Corner (fire through the roof). Minor exposure problem on Delta side of neighbors house
Photo #3- Photo from front door of neighbor’s house. Homeowners were notified of the fire and were requested to evacuate the house.
Photo #4- Engine 93 arrives on location (prior to hitting the hydrant)
Photos #5,6- Briarcliff Manor firefighters wait for water

Sorry for jumping in so late in the discussion. but irish fire is right. I was on the job for 34 years and went to schools,seminars, etc. right up to the time I retired. Some of us go to these classes just to get certificates and unfortunately forget the course material in a week or two. On the other hand, you could have irishfire's attitude: Learn it from those who have been there> remember it> and put it in your back pocket because you might need it some time in the future when you least expect it. It should also come out of that back pocket every now and then for a review. Irishfire, Tommy Brennan would be proud of you.
And Barry: Mofire is young. Don't jump on him when he asks a question. All your information is absolutely correct, but as soon as you jumped on his case, you turned him off.
Cids (or whatever you may call buildings' info database) is a very time consuming effort and takes a lot of work by all members of a FD to initiate and then to keep current. Not a knock, but it is something that volunteer FDs just don't have the time or people to devote.
Everyone, paid or vol should find time to do company inspections, at least of your area's target hazards if nothing else. Wouldn't it be nice if your first time in a building is during a company inspection as opposed to 3an on your hands and knees?
And about that back pocket irishfire talked about...It's like a magic pocket. No matter how much "stuff" you put in it, it never gets full.
There...you got my two cents. Take it to heart and it may be worth a lot more to you

After giving it some thought, I realized that I can no longer devote the time neccessary to be a member of the moderator staff on the website. I ran this by Seth and we decided this conclusively. I still plan on visiting the forum regularly and posting info as it comes up.
Thanks to all for lettng me help with the site for the last several years.
Joe Coppola

The only problem I have with this is that lethal injection is way too nice. Tie him to a bedpost, beat him,then douse him with gasoline - and let Mr. Petit light the match!

Thank you for taking the time to put this together. Seeing the faces and not just names and numbers really drives it home.

Just as an idea for other departments.....Anytime there is the possibility of a fire or dive call in a neighboring department, members get on a group chat and send a text out. Guys who are available send a message back and if it sounds legit enough start heading to the FD, so everyone already knows if we're going who's going to show up.
First due, Mutual aid as a specific Co. or as a FAST, our guys enjoy going to fires and love what we do (we absolutely hate to see property damaged and lives destroyed, but we enjoy being able to mitigate a problem, help formulate a solution to minimize the damage and assist the individuals affected). Why would someone sign up to take a career or volunteer their time, to be something that they don't want to be? You are now part of the snowballing problem of volunteer / combo departments who are able to "boost numbers" with individuals on the roster, who never show up to do anything. "Oh our roster has 70 active members." Really? How many on an average call, working fire, car accident, auto alarm actually show up to do something, three maybe four?
My point is being, by padding your numbers with individuals who don't show up, you've now given a false sense of manpower to the community (the people and property you are sworn to protect), "We dont need to supplement with career staff, or hold a huge recruitment drive because of our 70 members." This in turn now adds to your response time for ANY type of call...both from the lack of manpower and the manpower that just doesn't care. EVERY department needs to look at themselves as a business would during a monthly, quarterly or yearly audit and say "What can we do to better ourselves to better our relations with the community, our brothers surrounding us and the fire service as a whole?" If every department did this, and actually made improvements on themselves we would be in a whole different state of affairs in Westchester and in the US.

Having read each and every post on this thread and having read all of the background regarding the South Fulton/Obion County situation, it is clear to me that many posters have a serious problem with reading comprehension and a serious problem seeing things in a context other than what the know from their day-to-day experiences.
Lets look at some facts --Obion County is extremely rural. It is 545 square miles of land area -- that is 95 square miles larger than Westchester County. The population of Obion County -- THE ENTIRE COUNTY, including residents of 8 cities is 32,450 people!!! Westchester's population is close to one million people. Attempting to view the situation in Obion County in light of the way things are in Westchester is insane.
In TN, you either live in a City or you live in the unincorporated County. There are NO TOWNS. County Government is extremely limited and County taxes are extremely low. Residents outside the Cities are NOT Taxed for fire protection. Fire Protection is NOT provided. People know that when they build their homes in areas outside City boundaries. That is a major reason why they build there. They don't want to be bothered by government, by other people and they hate paying taxes. They obviously also hate services that are provided by taxes and that is why they freely choose to live without those services, including fire protection.
At some point, the local government officials in the City of South Fulton decided that it would be possible to extend the service of the City's Volunteer Fire Department (a department paid for by the taxpayers of the City of South Fulton through their taxes)to certain residents of Obion County who reside within a reasonable response time to South Fulton. The City government established a Fee of $75 per year for the service it agreed to provide to property owners in unincorporated Obion County. Each property owner in the parts of Obion County, lying outside the city limits of South Fulton, was then free to make a conscious decision to purchase fire protection that they never had previously, for the sum of $75.00 per year or to continue living they way that had forever, without any fire protection at all. In this particular case, the homeowner decided to take his chances and not pay the fee. His decision, freely made. He gambled and lost. Nobody forced him to locate his home in an area that does not have fire protection. He freely chose to do that.
If if were a taxpayer in the City of South Fulton, and the local volunteer fire department, operating on my tax dollars, had chosen to extinguish a fire in a Obion County, for a homeowner who had NOT paid the $75.00 fee, I would be in court the next day to sue the fire department and every member who misappropriated taxpayer financed equipment to fight the fire. It would be an open and shut case. The fire department would lose. Responding outside the City Limits of South Fulton to fight fires in unincorporated Obion County is NOT Mutual Aid because there is no organized fire protection in the unincorporated areas of the county. The fire department has a fiduciary and moral responsibility to those who pay for the service -- the taxpayers of the City of South Fulton and those county residents who have entered into individual contracts for department service. They would be violating that fiduciary and moral responsibility if they extinguished a fire for someone who freely chose NOT to avail himself of that service.
Why is it so hard for so many to understand this concept.

While we are off-topic, I'd like to propose that a dock is human-made structure or group of structures involved in the handling of boats or ships, a pier is a structure that extends into the water for pedestrian traffic or boat access, and a slip is the area of water where the boat goes.

You make many good points. But the fact that it was an open book test is NOT a mitigating factor at all.
The purpose of an open book test is generally to test one's ability to find reference information. I.E. they need to look up a law. Do you know where to look it up and how to interpret it?
The article states that they were collaborating and had obtained copies of the answer key. I'm not going to make any more judgements or conclusions than that, because as you said, it shouldn't affect their ability to do the job, and they still have to get the job done.

We have done training like this at an office building in our district and a rope and a thermal camera are certainly the tools of the trade. I don't think locating the SD isle is realistic due to the conditions, so it will be a blind search. I would not search every cubicle because it's just not possible given the number of them and the time you have. I would search the main isles with the rope and rely on the camera to home in on the trapped people.

Ah, another 'grasshopper'... What I would say is that 'shorter time to patient' is always better. That said, if this is THE goal, then there are many ways to achieve it. Every 'way' has a 'cost' associated with it. Cost/benefit is a decision that gets made long before we get dispatched to a call in the form of staffing and system management. The greater determinant in how long it takes to get help to a patient is how far away from the patient the help is, not how fast you drive.
Almost invariably, it is trained bystanders whose instantaneous help keeps a patient viable until EMS gets there that make the larger difference in outcome. And yet basic emergency tactics aren't even taught in schools. One can get a driver's license and not know what to do at an auto accident.
Minutes also carry different values. If time from injury to arrival of useful EMS is under 8 minutes AND it is a critical call, then shaving time here might make sense. If time from injury to EMS arrival is going to be 15 to 20 minutes, then shaving a minute or two here doesn't have nearly as much value.
As for RLS versus reckless, half of all drivers are below average. One need not be reckless to meet up with an inattentive driver who completely isn't prepared to stop or take evasive action.
Whether RLS has value needs to be evaluated case by case. I think the wise responder does this starting from the position that RLS is not worth it and then tries to build a case that it is,not the other way around.
These are good questions. If at 20, one does not have the 'fire in the belly' then one shouldn't be in emergency services. If one still has it at 50, then they also shouldn't be in emergency services. Remembering one of the great quotes on why a driver didn't go all that fast..."If the fire's any good it will still be going when I get there."

YOU ARE KIDDING ME WITH THIS NONSENSE RIGHT?????
I'm going to reply to this post point by point.
1. This punk is not underage as you say.. In NY, 16 and over go to the county jail and 15 and under go to woodfield cottage so he is in the county jail and will serve his time in New York State Prison...he is very much of age and will answer for his crimes as an adult.
2. Just because this kid tells as story about being afraid for his life, you believe it right away? Did it ever occur to you that he needed a story to cover or try to explain his actions and that is the tall tale he came up with ? You make a bold statement that he was clearly not of sound judgement or mind when the event occured... HOW DO YOU KNOW ?? Are you his shrink, social worker, parent or friend ? No, so it seems that you aren't qualified or able to make that statement. You coming to this kids defense is sickening !!!
3. This is a very strong case, he made statements, they saw him in the stolen car and he was pulled from the stolen car after he struck Officer Osso's vehicle... what more evidence do you need ?? I've been a cop for 12 years and have dealt with the DA's office nonsense many times.... they will give a plea to anyone just to save money and get an easy conviction to keep the conviction rate up.
4. This seems like a fair trade to who ??? Maybe to you but not the rest of us... I don't know what world you live in but in my world, when a cops gets hurt there are no fair trades ... the lives of my brothers and sisters aren't available for fair trades ... when a cops gets hurt or killed there should be swift judgements and harsh penalties, NOTHING LESS !!! The example you gave of a DWI sentence with a fatality doesn't apply because the laws are different when it comes to crimes against on duty police officers, a little fact I guess you over looked.
5. You say that maybe complete justice isn't in everyone's best interest ?? THE ONLY JUSTICE SHOULD BE FOR P.O. OSSO, HE IS THE VICTIM HERE - END OF STORY - there doesnt need to be any second chances for this punk kid, he made his choices and he made his bed and now he goes to jail. My Hope is that this kid rejects the deal and is found guilty at trial and is sentenced to the maximum for his crimes.

Jason was mentioned earlier with a little tongue in cheek and a smiley face about his perceived level of experience. It isn't his fault that there isn't an overwhelmingly obvious choice with more experience to fill the same position. Those four individuals who were the obvious choice were given the option to conform to an antiquated standard and/or survive toxicity in the ranks. They chose sanity....... Jason is being asked to fill a position that is typically held by individuals with more tenure under their belt.
The real issue is that 4 fine men aren't serving as officers in a strong (albeit small) fire company because of the actions a superior officer and the status quo that was given to his opinion.
Lets leave Jason out of this and if you have the opportunity to work with him on the fire ground or in training, step up and guide him so that he can become a respected leader regardless of age. Let me be clear, that I've never met him as he joined after I moved away.
Maybe instead of discussing Jason and his perceived lack of experience, we should out the senior person(s) who created this nonsense.