SOUSGT

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  1. So what should they do without?

    - Space to transport prisoners

    - Cages

    - Computers

    - O2 and First Aid Kits

    - LPR's

    - Radio Consoles and Emergency Switch sets

    - Shotgun

    - Patrol Rifle

    - Partner

    You still don't seem to get that there is little relationship between the vehicles operated and the ability to hire (or maintain) personnel.

    In the 80's my department tried switching from an 8cyl to a 6 cyl to save fuel. The cars did not hold up. They normally kept a vehicle for two years. The first year the vehicle was assigned to patrol and the second it kept as a spare or used by spare personel when they were on the roster. But they wound up replacing the 6cyl vehicles after the first year.

    One has to remember that many police cars run 24/7. The only time the engine was turned off was when the vehicle was in for service, you were out of the car on a detail or in court. If you look at the current police rated vehicles, most have heavy duty everything, aircraft type hoses and a supersized alternator. These improvements all add weight to the vehicle.

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  2. Was it a bad crash, his head is all dented !

    If there was a crash, there wouldn’t be a dent (unless he hit the side of a truck). More than likely, some poor ME would be scraping him off the pavement with a putty knife. While hundreds of cars and trucks were forced to wait on a closed highway until the investigation and cleanup took place. Then his family would probably sue the State for some defect in the road or bad engineering. :angry:

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  3. As a former police supervisor, I would tell my officers about the dangers of performing a “joke” of this type or similar action. It sometimes seems like the warning fell on deaf ears. They never thought about the consequences of their actions. Unfortunately, I have seen other officers disciplined, brought up on charges or fired for "inappropriate actions",

    The best advice I can offer anyone, Is this “joke” worth loosing you job, pension, possibly your house over, let alone the possibility of jail. Stick to putting mustard in the probies boots (he/she may be allergic to peanut butter).

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  4. If I remember correctly, the train passes for police officers were not the result of a change in policy by the MTA. A state Senator sponsored legislation that authorized the issuance of a pass. You had to apply through your department and it was issued to the officer and had to be renewed each year. It was only valid on MTA trains not NYC transit. Accepting the pass was conditional that you had to assist the conductor in the event of an emergency and if he requested your help.

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  5. So, even for actual investigation concerns, I cannot take a cell phone for the pictures or videos? I'm just asking because I have been told by many fire investigators and well experienced officers that it is legal to do so (I've even witnessed it). The pictures and videos were considered evidence in those case.

    I'm not trying to start an argument. If there is something I don't know, I just want to know the answer.

    You seem have two situations here. The first is for videos and pictures the second is for evidence. Remember as a member of a municipal fire department whether volunteer or paid, you are part of the government. The constitution (remember that funny document that we are sworn to uphold and defend), guarantees certain freedoms from government (in this case us). Two parts that come to mind are the right to prevent the sezure of private property without due course. The second is the right to be secure in our personal papers and property. Taking a person’s cell phone or camera without a warrant is permitted only in certain limited circumstances. In addition should you take someones property unlawfully, it may not be able to be used in court. In fact you could have the entire case thrown out. Without going into a class in Con Law 101, the best advice I could give you is to leave any the investigation to a trained investigator or the police. Let them make the call on what evidentiary value a device holds. They should know the proceedures for obtaining evidence and the chain of evidence ect.


  6. While I agree with you; it looks like they are doing a great job of eliminating career Fire & Police. What's really bothersome is that I feel more of this is coming down the pike; particularly in states like Arizona where the politicians are trying to eliminate collective bargaining altogether in both private and public sector.

    Just remember a society that makes war on its police had better make allies with its criminals. Unfortunately I don’t remember who said this. Its one of my favorite quotes.


  7. Pretty cool looking car but I would rather break my kneecaps then be seen in one of those B)

    Maybe this link will work...

    http://autos.yahoo.c...for-europe.html

    If you think this is small, check out:

    http://www.topgear.com/uk/videos/tiny-apeel

    Wait until the video starts and get past the advertising.

    This is an actual car, the Peel P-50 made in the UK. Although I don’t think is still in production.

    Can you imagine rolling up to this after it was involved in a MVA?

    But then, you could just pick it up, put it in the back of an ambulance and

    Do the extrication in the ER.


  8. Burned by judge on FDNY, city fires back in court

    Accuses Nicholas Garaufis of bias in imposing federal overseer

    The Bloomberg administration has taken the radical — and necessary — step of accusing a federal judge of out-and-out bias in his rulings on alleged racial discrimination in Fire Department hiring.

    The charge is well-grounded. Because Brooklyn Federal Judge Nicholas Garaufis overstepped his role as an impartial arbiter — in effect exceeding even the city’s opponents as an advocate.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/burned-judge-fdny-city-fires-back-court-article-1.1010646


  9. http://www.scottsafe...54C_2L-0208.pdf

    I was wondering if anyone here has any experience with the SCOTT Pak Tracker system. In West Haven the Center District received a grant for SCBA and purchased the Scott 75 series packs with the Pak Tracker. West Shore District bought a Pak Tracker and was able to retrofit some of their current SCBA with the Pak Tracker transponders, and Allingtown has the same on order. Plan is for the Trackers to be on the Truck Companies with the RIT bags.

    Apparently this system was instrumental in quickly locating the 2 downed firefighters in Worcester last month. We did a training evolution with the system in the Regional Burn Trailer last night and I have to say I'm pretty impressed with the technology. Obviously with any radio system there are interference issues, etc, which we tried to re-create but were unable to do so. Anyone have any experience with this? Know any typical quirks or limitations that aren't advertised? Any tricks for operation?

    The pack tracker transmits a unit identifier when the "PASS" alarm sounds. Our department uses our departmental letters and the pack number as the identifier. We have a a plastic accountability tag with the pack number on each pack. When the fire fighter removes the pack from the rig he/she attaches his/her accountability tag to the pack tag and then both are attached to the command board before the FF enters the fire zone or proceeds to the staging area for assignment. This way if an alarm is received from the Pak tracker, we know who to look for and don't have to waste time doing a roll call. Fortunately we have never had to go this far.

    i would recommend that neighboring departments get together before purchasing the system and come up with a standard identifier indicating the department/company and the pack #. This way you don't wind up with a few #4's at the scene of a incident involving many departments or companies.

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  10. You think buffing is a problem on the fire side, don’t get me started on what happens in the Law Enforcement:

    Two issues.

    1) Buffing by plainclothes detectives trying to grab a collar.

    2) Pursuits were multi jurisdictional units are involved.

    Our department had a rule that unmarked and plainclothes units were not permitted near a “hot call” unless they announced they were responding and all of the dispatched units acknowledged the transmission. Then the dispatcher authorized the response. This was to prevent an frendly fire incident. I can’t tell you how many times I found unauthorized on duty plain clothes officers at a scene that just happened to be driving by and saw a commotion. Funny thing, they tried to call in but their radio malfunctioned. You would file a disciplinary against them and you were the bad guy. While I did not object to the help, you have to remember these people have guns and we were always afraid of shooting a good guy.

    Pursuits are another ball of wax. Everyone and their brother shows up and all have guns.

    I remember searching for perps who bailed out of a stolen car in my jurisdiction that was being chased by two other departments for a bank robbery. At the time we grabbed one and were searching for any more. As my guys were checking a yard, two strange men with guns were seen. Turns out that they were detectives from another department. We spent most of the afternoon chasing “man with a gun” calls. After a while we found out that there was only one bad guy. The men with guns were all cops. Finally, we put out over the hot line for all of our “guests” to return to their jurisdictions. We were afraid a cop would get shot.