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Building was marked dangerous by the Capt of Engine 75. The bodies were found in a collapsed area that was not able to be searched because of the building being unstable. No one made any mistakes in the FDNY if anyone is to blame it is DOB or HPD for failing to maintain the security of the building.

Building was marked dangerous by the Capt of Engine 75. The bodies were found in a collapsed area that was not able to be searched because of the building being unstable. No one made any mistakes in the FDNY if anyone is to blame it is DOB or HPD for failing to maintain the security of the building.

Building was marked dangerous by the Capt of Engine 75. The bodies were found in a collapsed area that was not able to be searched because of the building being unstable. No one made any mistakes in the FDNY if anyone is to blame it is DOB or HPD for failing to maintain the security of the building.

No cons, except from the losers on facebook that want to be tough guys yet have never either read the NIST research or have had to visit a friend in the burn center. I was afforded the opportunity to get an 8 hour lecture from one of the head researchers at NIST responsible for collecting the data and working with the FDNY CFD and I think Baltimore FD. That 8 hours changed everything.

Drafting in New Orleans after Katrina was a four man job, myself and three other guys knew how to do it! We had to teach the other guys. Great times!

Bottom line, if the volunteers don't show up, they HAVE to hire more members. It is cut and dry. Now if you volunteer somewhere and are professional fireman somewhere else, it doesnt apply. Look at the IAFF magazine, what do they add like 5 locals nationwide each issue, and those are already paid members without representation. If they said tomorrow they were adding paid staff where I volunteer I would quit as of 2359 tonight, and if you are in a union somewhere else and volunteer in the same place you are a scab.

The two main officers if thats what you call them are very very experienced guys that know this stuff inside and out. They also teach it at First Line Supervisors Training Program for NYS that is held in NYC. If you can get access to one of their classes be sure to take it.

MSA Evolution. we have them at work, I have never seen one break, EVER!

The people in the district aren't 'Brother's' they are people elected by the town. They dont give a flying fluck about the members.

The people in the district aren't 'Brother's' they are people elected by the town. They dont give a flying fluck about the members.

You can not compare it with a combination dept. One guy is doing for free what you are doing to feed your family. I would not want to sit with a guy who would be the one stealing the fork out of my mouth, or worse my wife's! Outside of the work place setting is where you see it. But at work you are at work, where you get paid to do your job. And to be honest, the 'brotherhood' is about what happens when you are not at work, not being paid to do something, that is what makes it so special. I have helped at guys houses I hated, why? Cause its not about personalities, it is about the bond that if I need help they would be there too.

Bottom line, if the volunteers don't show up, they HAVE to hire more members. It is cut and dry. Now if you volunteer somewhere and are professional fireman somewhere else, it doesnt apply. Look at the IAFF magazine, what do they add like 5 locals nationwide each issue, and those are already paid members without representation. If they said tomorrow they were adding paid staff where I volunteer I would quit as of 2359 tonight, and if you are in a union somewhere else and volunteer in the same place you are a scab.

The people in the district aren't 'Brother's' they are people elected by the town. They dont give a flying fluck about the members.

Its not the same outside of NYC. Guy I was carpooling with stopped at firehouse I believe in greenburgh, it was off 119 about a block in on the right side of the street. We asked if it would be ok to leave a car there as we both were driving to work together. What were we told? Ask the chief?! Ask the Chief? We were parking a hyundai or an infiniti not a motorhome 24/7. Ironically, went to Greenburgh PD, were told by a sgt there, NO PROBLEM, if you have any issues come inside. We had a guy who was on his Harley stop at firehouse who rode in from Cali for 9/11. He wanted to obviously go downtown, we insisted he leave bike in quarters as we couldn't guarantee parking or safety of the bike downtown, smaller firehouses etc. He was extremely grateful. I was taught you always treat anyone who isn't assigned to your firehouse as a guest, the mechanic, the radio repairman, even the exterminator all given the offer of coffee something to eat, some heat or ac, anything so when he remembers YOUR firehouse he says those guys are great!

Hand saw ?

The people of White Plains are very lucky. These Brother's are so understaffed it is not even funny. I doubt the people there know how dedicated the members are and how much they are required to do compared to NYC, and to say that they don't or anyone doesn't deserve the same staffing is not true. The amount of fire load that WPFD NRFD YFD Greenburgh and fairview covers is the same as NYC actually even greater throw in MVFD and the 2 guys they have on a rig, man, you guys are doing a great job!

Its not the same outside of NYC. Guy I was carpooling with stopped at firehouse I believe in greenburgh, it was off 119 about a block in on the right side of the street. We asked if it would be ok to leave a car there as we both were driving to work together. What were we told? Ask the chief?! Ask the Chief? We were parking a hyundai or an infiniti not a motorhome 24/7. Ironically, went to Greenburgh PD, were told by a sgt there, NO PROBLEM, if you have any issues come inside. We had a guy who was on his Harley stop at firehouse who rode in from Cali for 9/11. He wanted to obviously go downtown, we insisted he leave bike in quarters as we couldn't guarantee parking or safety of the bike downtown, smaller firehouses etc. He was extremely grateful. I was taught you always treat anyone who isn't assigned to your firehouse as a guest, the mechanic, the radio repairman, even the exterminator all given the offer of coffee something to eat, some heat or ac, anything so when he remembers YOUR firehouse he says those guys are great!

The people of White Plains are very lucky. These Brother's are so understaffed it is not even funny. I doubt the people there know how dedicated the members are and how much they are required to do compared to NYC, and to say that they don't or anyone doesn't deserve the same staffing is not true. The amount of fire load that WPFD NRFD YFD Greenburgh and fairview covers is the same as NYC actually even greater throw in MVFD and the 2 guys they have on a rig, man, you guys are doing a great job!

The people of White Plains are very lucky. These Brother's are so understaffed it is not even funny. I doubt the people there know how dedicated the members are and how much they are required to do compared to NYC, and to say that they don't or anyone doesn't deserve the same staffing is not true. The amount of fire load that WPFD NRFD YFD Greenburgh and fairview covers is the same as NYC actually even greater throw in MVFD and the 2 guys they have on a rig, man, you guys are doing a great job!

Its not the same outside of NYC. Guy I was carpooling with stopped at firehouse I believe in greenburgh, it was off 119 about a block in on the right side of the street. We asked if it would be ok to leave a car there as we both were driving to work together. What were we told? Ask the chief?! Ask the Chief? We were parking a hyundai or an infiniti not a motorhome 24/7. Ironically, went to Greenburgh PD, were told by a sgt there, NO PROBLEM, if you have any issues come inside. We had a guy who was on his Harley stop at firehouse who rode in from Cali for 9/11. He wanted to obviously go downtown, we insisted he leave bike in quarters as we couldn't guarantee parking or safety of the bike downtown, smaller firehouses etc. He was extremely grateful. I was taught you always treat anyone who isn't assigned to your firehouse as a guest, the mechanic, the radio repairman, even the exterminator all given the offer of coffee something to eat, some heat or ac, anything so when he remembers YOUR firehouse he says those guys are great!

Its not the same outside of NYC. Guy I was carpooling with stopped at firehouse I believe in greenburgh, it was off 119 about a block in on the right side of the street. We asked if it would be ok to leave a car there as we both were driving to work together. What were we told? Ask the chief?! Ask the Chief? We were parking a hyundai or an infiniti not a motorhome 24/7. Ironically, went to Greenburgh PD, were told by a sgt there, NO PROBLEM, if you have any issues come inside. We had a guy who was on his Harley stop at firehouse who rode in from Cali for 9/11. He wanted to obviously go downtown, we insisted he leave bike in quarters as we couldn't guarantee parking or safety of the bike downtown, smaller firehouses etc. He was extremely grateful. I was taught you always treat anyone who isn't assigned to your firehouse as a guest, the mechanic, the radio repairman, even the exterminator all given the offer of coffee something to eat, some heat or ac, anything so when he remembers YOUR firehouse he says those guys are great!

First off I am truly sorry about your son. Brotherhood is in many ways not dead, but it also depends on where you work. My method of actions precludes me in many ways of social invites, or of being a part of the social hierarchy other than people being afraid of running across me, especially where I volunteer. I don't ever claim to know everything, but ill be damned if some idiot who thinks cause he is a volunteer firefighter knows more than 99% of the guys who do it day in and day out is going to teach someone the WRONG way to do things. At work its always take care of what you need to, we will work it out. It is a completely different environment. At home, at the local FD its all about who is most liked, or who licks the Chief's balls in many cases. But when I think about who actually gives a rats behind it is usually always the same core group of guys. No one realizes how much even a little phone call means to a sick or injured member, until it is them in the hospital with not a soul around. I am usually the stranger at the hospital for many of our terminally ill Brother's in the FDNY. I am there with either a cash donation or an offer to help anyway I can. I know what brotherhood is, and like one of the guys who I worked with when I got on said, 'kid, you never want to know how good this job really is.' Pete the Greek said that, if you know who he is.
Trying to teach new guys this is not that hard. But what needs to be explained is the fact that no matter what kind of call you go on, the threat for death or injury is there. We all know it at work, we have plaques and everyone knows someone who was killed. Here locally it is not as prevalent luckily, so the gravity of the work usually doesn't hit home. This is part of the reason Police officers always have a mutual respect for one another, because no matter how long you have been on the job, you know that safety is paramount, and relying on one another is critical to survival.
Perhaps one way you could teach everyone is through a basic call audit. Bring up the last few recent alarms, and point out every way someone could be hurt or killed. Instilling the fact that you can be the difference between life and death for each other is paramount to these kind of exercises.

First off I am truly sorry about your son. Brotherhood is in many ways not dead, but it also depends on where you work. My method of actions precludes me in many ways of social invites, or of being a part of the social hierarchy other than people being afraid of running across me, especially where I volunteer. I don't ever claim to know everything, but ill be damned if some idiot who thinks cause he is a volunteer firefighter knows more than 99% of the guys who do it day in and day out is going to teach someone the WRONG way to do things. At work its always take care of what you need to, we will work it out. It is a completely different environment. At home, at the local FD its all about who is most liked, or who licks the Chief's balls in many cases. But when I think about who actually gives a rats behind it is usually always the same core group of guys. No one realizes how much even a little phone call means to a sick or injured member, until it is them in the hospital with not a soul around. I am usually the stranger at the hospital for many of our terminally ill Brother's in the FDNY. I am there with either a cash donation or an offer to help anyway I can. I know what brotherhood is, and like one of the guys who I worked with when I got on said, 'kid, you never want to know how good this job really is.' Pete the Greek said that, if you know who he is.
Trying to teach new guys this is not that hard. But what needs to be explained is the fact that no matter what kind of call you go on, the threat for death or injury is there. We all know it at work, we have plaques and everyone knows someone who was killed. Here locally it is not as prevalent luckily, so the gravity of the work usually doesn't hit home. This is part of the reason Police officers always have a mutual respect for one another, because no matter how long you have been on the job, you know that safety is paramount, and relying on one another is critical to survival.
Perhaps one way you could teach everyone is through a basic call audit. Bring up the last few recent alarms, and point out every way someone could be hurt or killed. Instilling the fact that you can be the difference between life and death for each other is paramount to these kind of exercises.

First off I am truly sorry about your son. Brotherhood is in many ways not dead, but it also depends on where you work. My method of actions precludes me in many ways of social invites, or of being a part of the social hierarchy other than people being afraid of running across me, especially where I volunteer. I don't ever claim to know everything, but ill be damned if some idiot who thinks cause he is a volunteer firefighter knows more than 99% of the guys who do it day in and day out is going to teach someone the WRONG way to do things. At work its always take care of what you need to, we will work it out. It is a completely different environment. At home, at the local FD its all about who is most liked, or who licks the Chief's balls in many cases. But when I think about who actually gives a rats behind it is usually always the same core group of guys. No one realizes how much even a little phone call means to a sick or injured member, until it is them in the hospital with not a soul around. I am usually the stranger at the hospital for many of our terminally ill Brother's in the FDNY. I am there with either a cash donation or an offer to help anyway I can. I know what brotherhood is, and like one of the guys who I worked with when I got on said, 'kid, you never want to know how good this job really is.' Pete the Greek said that, if you know who he is.
Trying to teach new guys this is not that hard. But what needs to be explained is the fact that no matter what kind of call you go on, the threat for death or injury is there. We all know it at work, we have plaques and everyone knows someone who was killed. Here locally it is not as prevalent luckily, so the gravity of the work usually doesn't hit home. This is part of the reason Police officers always have a mutual respect for one another, because no matter how long you have been on the job, you know that safety is paramount, and relying on one another is critical to survival.
Perhaps one way you could teach everyone is through a basic call audit. Bring up the last few recent alarms, and point out every way someone could be hurt or killed. Instilling the fact that you can be the difference between life and death for each other is paramount to these kind of exercises.

First off I am truly sorry about your son. Brotherhood is in many ways not dead, but it also depends on where you work. My method of actions precludes me in many ways of social invites, or of being a part of the social hierarchy other than people being afraid of running across me, especially where I volunteer. I don't ever claim to know everything, but ill be damned if some idiot who thinks cause he is a volunteer firefighter knows more than 99% of the guys who do it day in and day out is going to teach someone the WRONG way to do things. At work its always take care of what you need to, we will work it out. It is a completely different environment. At home, at the local FD its all about who is most liked, or who licks the Chief's balls in many cases. But when I think about who actually gives a rats behind it is usually always the same core group of guys. No one realizes how much even a little phone call means to a sick or injured member, until it is them in the hospital with not a soul around. I am usually the stranger at the hospital for many of our terminally ill Brother's in the FDNY. I am there with either a cash donation or an offer to help anyway I can. I know what brotherhood is, and like one of the guys who I worked with when I got on said, 'kid, you never want to know how good this job really is.' Pete the Greek said that, if you know who he is.
Trying to teach new guys this is not that hard. But what needs to be explained is the fact that no matter what kind of call you go on, the threat for death or injury is there. We all know it at work, we have plaques and everyone knows someone who was killed. Here locally it is not as prevalent luckily, so the gravity of the work usually doesn't hit home. This is part of the reason Police officers always have a mutual respect for one another, because no matter how long you have been on the job, you know that safety is paramount, and relying on one another is critical to survival.
Perhaps one way you could teach everyone is through a basic call audit. Bring up the last few recent alarms, and point out every way someone could be hurt or killed. Instilling the fact that you can be the difference between life and death for each other is paramount to these kind of exercises.