ptwatson

Unbelievable! How did this hazing have to do with anything in the fire service. We all know we like to pull a gag on each other now and again. Those gags are for the most part harmless. Everyone gets a good laugh and we move on. This behavior is not having fun with someone, it's degrading them, especialy someone so young! If these charges turn out to be true and they are convicted I hope these sick and twisted individuals get what is coming to them. Good luck getting employment as registered sex offenders boys!

I think the state needs to do a full investigation on the Piermont FD.

Good work Pete,

I think Eng. 4 & 5 had black boat tops added

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Yeah, they had black canvas tops made for them. They leaked like crazy though, and you still arrived wet in the rain..lol Chris and a bunch of other Union Corner boys wanted to buy Eng 4 in 86 but the commishoners made it difficultso it never happened. I believe it was sold to a guy who was going park it outdoors and use it for it's pumps upstate somewhere. A dame shame if you ask me! I believe the county bought Engine 5 but dont know any more of the story.

There is an article in todays 6/10 Daily News about how much trouble they have had with it!

I see a worn out 3 on the door so this would have been Engine 3 aka Engine 29 Bronxville station 3.

Bronxville Engine & Hose Co #3

Curious do you know where the rig is today?

I see a worn out 3 on the door so this would have been Engine 3 aka Engine 29 Bronxville station 3.

Bronxville Engine & Hose Co #3

What she did was stupid but getting evited must be a horrible feeling....

I bought the 1949 Amercan Lafrance 700 from Eastchester [gas] in 86, sold it in 1999 to make room for the B-95 Mack ! looking for photos !

Who did you sell it to?

New York State Fallen Firefighters Memorial, Police Officers Memorial and EMS Memorial in Albany, NY, along with the names of every other brother and sister who died in the great State of New York doing a job they loved, protecting life and property.

True, their names are enscribed on these memorials. Their names are also on the memorial in front of 60 in Valhalla. But, do we know the history that goes along with their sacrafice. Maybe a little history of who they were etc. It would be nice to know how they gave their lives in that way it's just not a name.

Nice to hear! Best of luck and can't wait to see what it looks like.

It might be nice if you contacted the FDNY museum. The last time I was there they had a few things from this assoc. I'm sure they would love to see your book!

What a huge undertaking this would be. However, I think it would be worth it. I think one reason that the public have a laize fair attitude toward emergency service is that they are not really educated on what we do. THey know that when they dial for help we show up and that is all they need to know . They read what is in the media which at time has been known to be slanted. A museum wold be a great place to show the past, present, and future. it would be a great plce to teach safety and prevention. I think however, there should be a Westchester County Museum. How many of you know there is a Westchester County veterans museum. It is at Lasdon Park in Somers and it is open on the weekend during the summer. It is hardly ever visited. I think it would be great to gather all of these artifacts under one roof. There could be a dedicated wing/exhibit toward the Emergency Services in the county. Westchester County is rich in history from Washington coming up the Bronx River for the Battle of White Plains to various other historical events that have come down over the years. A county museum would be an interesting and fun lace to visit. But in these economic times i dont see it coming to furition.

Gasoline to diesel? We had one of each, two identical '55 ALF pumpers, one with the conversion to diesel and automatic transmission, and the spare which was original gas motor and three speed stick. The spare also remained open-cab, while the diesel converted rig had a vinyl canopy installed. The diesel used to rev very high before auto shifting; that plus the canopy made it extremely loud in the cab, very echoey, couldn't hear the radio L&S. On a nice day, the spare was a pleasure comparatively.

Edit: not exactly sure on the year of the rigs....'55,'56,'57....

Good old Engine 4in Chester Heights. It served till 85/86. I know my brother and a few others tried to buy it but the commishioners rejected their offer. The spare that was kept in Bronxville if I remember right. I have pictures of both and will try to scan and put them up. However I thought they were older then 55'

Glad no members of the PD or the VAC were injured. It's sad that no place is safe any longer. Nice job by EPD apprehending the a-holes. If I am not mistaken I have heard stories of FD HQ next door being robed late at night as well a bunch of years ago. I believe they were apprehended by the members on duty.

I do believe that consolidation is the wave of the future! In Eastchester we have had one town wide F.D and also one town wide VAC for decades. I could really see if being benificial with the all volunteer departments. Let's face the fact that people need to work more to pay their bill's these days.They don't have as much time to volunteer these days. This is not just in the fire service but in all volunteer programs. I think this change in society plays into the lower ranks of volunteer firefighters. If a town with a volunteer department covering each village in that town I would think that it would be sensable to combine forces and have one town fire department. You would have a greater source of man power and a stronger department. Also, you would not need as much appararatus. As for the career dept's mostly in the southern part of the county I believe that there has been serious discussion on combining on responding. For example my brother lives 3 houses over the Eastchester border in Mt. Vernon. If he has an emergency his 1st due is Lincoln Ave a few minute away yet an Eastchester Engine is less then a minute away. What the plan would call for is that the Eastchester Engine would be the 1st due even though he lives in Mt. Vernon etc.. It makes sence! It would/will save lives! The system that was set in place during the early 1900's in my opinion is outdated. As we know tradition and pride is a big factor in the FD. However, if the apparatus needs to be re-lettered from a village name to a town name to become a town wide dept to save the tax payers money and pool resources then so be it. Let a new tradition grow out of the fine tradition of the past.

I would say that it depended on what the Chief carried in his vehicle and how often it was used. In my opinion an officer who responded quite a bit might want to stay with the traditional HUV for the tougher wear and tear. However, I recently bought a Ford Escape for my wife and I have to say I am quite impressed. Ford has done a very nice job in the new model. I think it would be a great officers vehicle provided that the officer did not carry a lot of bulky equipment. The rear compartment in my opinion would have enough room for some small hand tools an, SCBA rack, an extinguisher, and maybe a few other small toys. Communications/radios in the front however would have to be figured out as the shifter is not on the steering column but down between the front seats.

If you thought that Ladder 16 Siren was loud, try remembering what the Old EFD Rescue 5 (Brockway) was like when it would respond up on Midland Avenue. That rig was a "BEAST" and between the Air Horn and Siren, it was an "adventure" being just in front of that rig coming towards you.

When I was a student at Immaculate Conception on late spring days when the windows would be open and you had a class on the Winterhill Rd side of the building you could hear the rescue truck leave station three and hear the siren get louder and louder as it came up Midland toward Winterhill. That thing sure was loud!

MAck antique engine

What a treasure!

Actually I should have mentioned these pictures were taken several years ago. The fate of the old Quad was decided soon after the time of these pictures.

What was it's fate? Was it scrapped?

Opt out? Jurisdictions have to opt in and seek out this type of inter-municipal agreement so the "more affluent" as you put it can choose to continue to pay absurdly high taxes if they want to while the smarter ones do what's best and reduce taxes.

For example Bronxville. It's quite affluent but it's only ONE square mile. Why on earth do they need their own police force? In my opinion it's a status thing. But hey it's Bronxville we are talking about. Some of the resident's are clueless. I can recall being on a scene a few times with Eastchester F.D. (EFD covers the entire town) and the resident wondering where the Bronxville F.D. was.. lol

They have bigger populations and more 'crime'. The NYPD is huge and has the right stuff to protect all 8.4 million people in NYC. Also in regard to response times. Are they going to put a precint in every village/city/town? If they want to save more money, they would close down police stations and consolidate.

Is the PSEF (aka The Westchester County Sheriff)going to be used for any of this consolidation?

From what I understand the County Sheriff's are a police auxillary extention of the County Police.? In my opinion you would have one county precinct in every town in Westchester. That precinct would cover that town and any village that is within that town. For example one precinct in Eastchester that would cover Eastchester, Tuckahoe and Bronxville etc.....

Would it be a cost saving measure if all Westchester Town and Villages changed over to the County PD? In my personal opinion I think it would be great but I'm no expert. I would imagine that the cities would/should continue to police themselves. However, there so many PD's in Westchester. I'm curious if it would be a better system. I'm a big fan of mergers that could save tax dollars while still providing the same great service.

I always enjoy when someone asks why the Police Departments try to take away work from the Fire Departments.

Let's look at NYPD ESU. NYPD ESU has been providing rescue services for the citizens of New York City since the 1930's. The Fire Department wanted nothing to do with rescue work, especially back in the days when the city was burning down, before the strict fire codes that exist today, along with the use of sprinkler systems, improved building materials, fireproofing, fire prevention programs, and everything else that has lead to a decrease in the number of fires. So for decades, the NYPD ESU was the sole provider of emergency rescue services in the City of New York.

It wasn't until the number of fires began to decrease, that the FDNY started getting involved with rescue work. So, should PD be asking why the FD was trying to duplicate a service already being provided by them? Before a lot of Westchester County Fire Departments purchased extrication equipment, extrications on the Westchester County Parkways were handled by the Westchester County Department of Public Safety. Should County PD have asked why the local FD's were trying to duplicate a service on the parkways already provided by them? The Town of Mount Pleasant Police was the sole provider of extrication services within their jurisdiction for years before the local fire departments purchased extrication equipment. Should the Town of Mount Pleasant PD have asked why the local FD's were trying to duplicate a service already being provided by the local PD?

Personally, I have no problem with FD's handling rescue work, and always look forward to working together at a scene rather then battle eachother. The one benefit I see to having both Firefighters and Police Officers assigned to Emergency Service Units taking part in a rescue, is that it gives you a larger talent pool to pull from in the event of a significant incident. There are some ESU officers who are talented rescue specialists, just as there are Firefighters assigned to Rescue Companies who possess the same talents and level of expertise. Being able to draw from the experiences and talents of both individuals at an incident is beneficial to the overall success of the operation.

"So for decades, the NYPD ESU was the sole provider of emergency rescue services in the City of New York."

Rescue 1 1915 Rescue 2 1925 Rescue 3 1931 Rescue 4 1931 Rescue 5 1948. So I don't think the good men of the NYPD ESU were the sole provider's of rescue services. FDNY was right along side of them!

Besides this topic being discussed and even more dishartening fact is that there is NO World War 1 momument in our nations capitol. Almost one hundred years after it ended we still have no monument to these veterans. They gave their service and lives to our contry in the war to end all war's. Don't you think it's about time, that they are not completly forgotten about and that a beautiful monument be errected on the National Mall so that generations can remember and honor them?

http://www.wwimemorial.org/

My grandfather was a WWI vet. He was part of the 1st American air force. Back then it was the Army air corp. He flew in France and was actualy shot down twice. Each time he walked away from the wreck. Unfortunatly, all that poison gas they were throwing down below rose and the flyboys flew though it. In the end it gave him horrible stomach ulcers that eventualy killed him in 48'. In todays world his medical problems would be a routine fix. He was also a WWII vet and served as a flight instructor down in Arkansas. I just don't get todays politicians. Come on people its the last American WORLD WAR ONE vet. We should honor all of their service by havng him lay in state in the rotunda. What a discrace!

Pete Watson 15 year volunteer member with Eastchester. Member of Union Corners Engine & Hose Co. 4 -Engine 30. Rose through the volunteer ranks to Deputy Chief. Currently living in N. Westchester and looking to associate with a new department soon.