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Date: 8/8/11
Time: 03:50 hours
Location: 101-44 132 st and 101-40 132 st x Liberty Ave
Frequency: FDNY Queens
Weather Conditions: warm
Description Of Incident: fire extended from the attic throughout a 2 1/2 story private dwelling and into exposure 4.
Reporters/Writer: ryang
Additional Info:
South Richmond Hill, Queens, NY, 8/8/11
Address: 101-40 132 st between 101 and Liberty Aves
03:50 hours
Phone Box 6095 - Report of fire in a private dwelling @ 101-40 132 st
Engs 303, 308, Squad 270
L126, TL127
Battalion 51
10-75-6095 - 03:52 hours
E303: 10-75 the Box, fire on the top floor of 2 1/2 story peaked roof private dwelling
E298
TL142 (FAST Truck)
Battalion 50
Division 13
Rescue 4
Squad 288
2-2-6095 - 03:57 hours
Battalion 51: 6095, transmit the 2nd Alarm, we have fire in the exposure.
Engs. 285, 302, 294, 275
E324 w/ Satellite 4
TL155, T143
Battalion 54 (Safety Officer)
Battalion 39 (Resource Unit Leader)
Safety, Rescue Battalions
Tactical Support 2
FieldCom 1
RAC4
03:59 hours - Duration 10 minutes
BC51: We have a fire in 101-40 132 st, 2 1/2 story frame. Exposure 1 is street, 2 is similar detached, 3 is unknown, 4 is a similar detached. We have 1 line stretched and in operation, a 2nd line stretched to exposure 2 attic in operation, k. We'll go with 20x40, k.
04:02 hours
The staging area is 103 Ave and 130 st
04:04 hours - Duration 15 minutes
Division 13: 2nd alarm Box 6095, we've got 2 lines stretched, we have a 3rd line being stretched, we have fire in the attic, 1st, and 2nd floors, fire's Doubtful.
04:09 hours - Duration 20 minutes
DC13: Box 6095, all visible fire has been knocked down, also in exposure 4. Primaries are being done right now, we'll get back to you. Still Doubtful, the extension was into exposure 4.
04:11 hours
DC13: Box 6095, you can return the Satellite please.
04:14 hours - Duration 25 minutes
DC13: The primaries in the fire building are being delayed, the primaries and secondaries are complete and negative in exposure 4, return the 4th chief, Rescue, and Squad.
04:14 hours
DC13: The primaries in the fire building are negative.
04:17 hours - Duration 28 minutes
DC13: Box 6095, primaries are complete throughout the fire building and exposure 4, we're going to go Probably Will Hold.
04:20 hours
DC13: Return all special units.
04:26 hours
DC13: Box 6095, 10-41 code 1 (suspicious fire, occupied structure), mixer-off please.
04:28 hours
FieldCom: Box 6095, change the address to 101-44 132 st, the original building. 101-40 is exposure 4.
04:24 hours
DC13: Box 6095, we're going to go Under Control.
Relocations:
Engines: 332/294, 297/298, 286/302, 299/303, 307/308
Ladders: 165/126, 140/143
Battalions: 49/50

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Date: 7/22/11
Time: 11:50 hours
Location: 105-37 132 st x 107 Ave
Frequency: FDNY Queens
Weather Conditions: hot
Description Of Incident: heavy fire in the basement on arrival extended to the 1st floor of a 2 1/2 story private dwelling
Reporters/Writer: ryang
Additional info:
Morris Park, Queens, NY, 7/22/11
Address: 105-37 132 st @ 107 Ave
11:50 hours
Phone Box 8994 - Report of a structural fire
Engs. 303, 308, Squad 270
L126, TL155
Battalion 51
10-75-8994 - 11:52 hours
E302
TL127 (FAST Truck)
Battalion 50
Division 13
Rescue 4
Squad 288
7-5-8994 - 11:54 hours
E298, TL142 S/C
RAC4
11:55 hours
Battalion 51: Box 8994 we're using All-Hands, we have fire in the basement of a 2 1/2 story private dwelling 20x40, we have 1 line stretched in operation.
11:57 hours
Division 13: We have 2 lines stretched, 1 in operation, we have heavy fire in the basement and 1st floor at this time. Trucks are opening up, searches in progress, Doubtful. 2 1/2 story frame.
2-2-8994 - 11:58 hours
DC13: 2nd Alarm Box 8994, have all 2nd alarm units respond into the front of the building for work.
Engs. 285, 275, 294
E324 w/ Satellite 4
L133
Battalion 54 (Safety Officer)
Battalion 39 (Resource Unit Leader)
Safety, Rescue Battalions
Tactical Support 2
FieldCom 1, Command Tactical Unit

12:04 hours
DC13: 2nd Alarm Box 8994, we have 3 lines stretched, all in operation at this time, we have heavy fire in the basement extended to the 1st floor, trucks are opening up, searches in progress, fire is Doubtful.
12:05 hours
The staging area is 107 ave and 134 st
12:10 hours - Duration 21 minutes
DC13: 2nd Alarm Box 8994, we have 4 lines stretched, 3 in operation, fire's Doubtful, trucks are opening up, searches in progress, we have heavy fire in the basement and 1st floor, searches will be delayed due to the heavy amount of fire on arrival.
12:15 hours - Duration 26 minutes
DC13: 2nd Alarm Box 8994, can we have an additional truck for relief purposes, we're going Probably Will Hold, main body of fire has been knocked down, searches will still be delayed due to the heavy amount of fire on arrival. Have that truck report to the command post.
T143 S/C
12:17 hours
DC13: Let the RAC unit know they can come in off Liberty Ave, down 132 st, the street is open from that direction. Also we need a priority response from ConEd, we have firefighters outside the building that are being shocked, not majorly but there is an electrical problem with the building and as they step in water they are getting shocked.
12:20 hours
ConEd advises a 45 minute ETA.
DC13: Can we do better than that, we have a bit of a problem here.
Queens will contact OEM to expedite the response.
L125 S/C
12:28 hours
DC13: 2nd Alarm Box 8994, we're going to go Under Control, primary searches and secondary searches are still in progress.

They can happen to anyone, but shouldn't. I threw those speeds in there to try and sneak one by you. You seem to be very reactionary in this post. Just wanted to see if you were reading or just being defensive. Nobody should be driving that fast, especially in a tower ladder. Take it from me, getting in an accident in an engine sucks. I know this personally. Although there were thankfully no injuries, the woman who stopped short in front of me was pregnant and transported to the hospital for observation. Luckily, no one was in the crosswalk where the pathfinder she was driving ended up. Luckily my officer and crew had seat belts on and did not land on the pathfinder. Someone older and wiser told me afterwards, there are two kinds of drivers, ones that have had an accident, and ones that haven't had one YET. I just got mine out of the way early in my career. I drive carefully all the time, stop at all negative intersections no matter time of day, etc. I have actually had officers tell me to speed up. I refuse every time. If you have not done this yet, and I suggest this to every emergency vehicle operator, read every fatal fire apparatus (or ambulance/police cruiser) report you can find. Learn from other peoples death. Speed, inexperience, and bad weather are the three most common causes of fatal accidents. Take your time learning the job of the back step properly before getting in the front. Just because you drive more at 3am than a more experienced driver, only means you don't have to take a leak before you go on that call, or you live closer, or don't have to crack your back three times before taking a few steps toward the door. If you take the time to put on your turnout gear, another (more experienced) driver should arrive. If they don't, there are bigger problems ahead...

I don't mean any disrepsect whatsoever, but if you want to be taken seriously when addressing older members of this forum, as well as convincing them to consider your competency, qualifications, and abilities, stay away from using phrases like "wat", "gunna", "ur", or "u". It shows your age, and unfortunately will keep anyone from taking you seriously.
On a second note, I don't think that anyone will argue that with age comes experience, and with experience comes ability and knowledge. I think every one of us at a young age thought that we were ready for anything; it's only as you get older, a little more experienced, and a little wiser does your attitude change about the "younger crowd", whether it be at work or in your personal life.. I know growing up, I used to cringe every time my parents would say to me, "One day you'll understand", and as depressing as it may be, now that I'm older, I do understand.

Departments shouldn't adopt their standards for driving based on who's available at 3 AM or 3 PM. They should have comprehensive screening processes, training (both formal classroom like EVOC and in-formal on the road training), and evaluations before being allowed to drive for an AFA or mutiple alarm fire.

Date: 4/9/11
Time: 10:10 hours
Location: 424 Beach 129 st between Cronston and Newport Aves
Frequency: FDNY Queens
Weather Conditions: fair
Description Of Incident: heavy fire on arrival in a pizzeria extended to dwellings above. 2 MAYDAYs given, member forced to bail out using PSS.
Reporters/Writer: ryang
Belle Harbor, Queens, NY, 4/9/11
Address: 424 Beach 129 st between Cronston and Newport Aves
10:10 hours
Phone Box 1407 - Report of fire in a restaurant
Engs. 268, 329, 266
L137, TL121
Battalion 47
10-75-1407 - 10:13 hours
E265
TL159 (FAST Truck)
Battalion 33
Division 13
Squad 270
Rescue 4
CIDS for 420 Beach 129 st:
Restaurant 1 story 30x100 class 3. Partial sprinkler siamese on exposure 1 for cellar and kitchen areas
7-5-1407 - 10:19 hours
Battalion 47: We have a heavy fire condition, extra engine and truck. All-Hands on Arrival.
E309, L134 S/C
RAC2
2-2-1407 - 10:19 hours
Engs. 264, 328, 323
E284 w/ Satellite 3
TL153
Battalion 39 (Safety Officer)
Battalion 43 (Resource Unit Leader)
Safety, Rescue Battalions
Tactical Support 2
FieldCom 1
10:23 hours - Duration 14 minutes
BC47: Box 1407, the address 424 Beach 129 st, we have fire on the 1st and 2nd floor extended to the 3rd floor, check the basement for extension. Exposure 1 is a street, 2 is a similar attached, 3 is a rear yard, 4 is an alley, k.
10:27 hours
TL157 S/C
10:29 hours
The staging area is Cronston Ave and Beach 131 st
10:29 hours - Duration 22 minutes
Division 13: 2nd Alarm Box 1407, we've got 4 lines stretched, 2 in operation, we have heavy fire on the 2nd floor of a 2 1/2 story commercial. You've got a 30x100, fire on the 2nd floor. 1st floor commercial occupancy, 2nd floor multiple dwelling, 3rd floor possibly apartments also.
10:31 hours - Duration 23 minutes
DC13: 2nd Alarm Box Box 1407, we have 4 lines stretched, 2 in operation. We're going to change it from a 2 1/2 story to a 3 story building. Fire's Doubtful, searches in progress, trucks are opening up, the 2nd Alarm is still Doubtful.
10:36 hours - Duration 27 minutes
DC13: 2nd Alarm Box 1407, a MAYDAY has been transmitted, the MAYDAY has been recovered and removed from the building. We put the FAST Truck to work, special call another FAST Truck. We're Doubtful on the 2nd Alarm.
L173 (FAST Truck) S/C
10:38 hours - Duration 30 minutes
E321 S/C
3-3-1407 - 10:40 hours
Division 13 to Queens, URGENT, 3rd Alarm, as soon as you get the companies give me a rundown.
Engs. 254, 331, 225
Battalion 50
Battalion 58 (Staging Manager)
Battalion 42 (Air-Recon Chief)
Mask Service Unit
Car 4A( AC James Manahan, Assistant Chief of Operations)
10:41 hours
Car 1E (Commissioner's Liaison) is responding
10:52 hours
Car 36A (Department Chaplain) is responding
10:54 hours - Duration 43 minutes
DC13: 3rd Alarm Box 1407, we had a 2nd MAYDAY, he used his PSS to escape the building.
10:55 hours
Car 11A (BC Thomas J. Richardson, Chief of Rescue Operations) is responding
11:00 hours - Duration 52 minutes
FieldCom: Progress report on the Queens 3rd Alarm Box 1407, the address 424 Beach 129 st near Cronston Ave, fire on the 2nd and 3rd floor of a 3 story commercial 30x100. Division 13 reports he has 6 handlines stretched in operation, truck companies continuing to open up and they're in the process of setting up the tower ladder operation. Fire is Doubtful.
11:14 hours - Duration 1 hour 5 minutes
FC: Special call 1 additional truck, have them respond to the staging area.
TL107 S/C
11:18 hours - Duration 1 hour 9 minutes
FC: Progress report on the 3rd Alarm Box 1407, at this time Car 4A, Assistant Chief Manahan reports: a roll call has been conducted and all members are accounted for. Members have been backed out of the building and a tower ladder operation is in progress, and the fire remains Doubtful.
11:20 hours - Duration 1 hour 11 minutes
FC: Notify the Buildings Dept. to respond, they want to check the stability of the building.
11:25 hours
FC: By authority of the Incident Commander you can 10-2 the Air-Recon Chief.
11:27 hours - Duration 1 hour 18 minutes
FieldCom requests mixer-off message
11:33 hours - Duration 1 hour 24 minutes
FC: Progress report on the 3rd Alarm Box 1407, at this time Car 4A, Chief Manahan reports that they have 4 handlines in operation, they have 1 tower ladder in operation on exposure 1. Conditions remain the same and searches will be delayed. Fire remains Doubtful.
11:58 hours - Duration 1 hour 49 minutes
FC: Progress report on the 3rd Alarm Box 1407, at this time Car 4A, Chief Manahan reports that the safety chief is going to enter the building to assess the stability, searches are delayed, and the fire is now Probably Will Hold.
12:02 hours
Car 14C (Fire Marshal) is 10-84
12:09 hours
Car 14 (Chief Fire Marshal Robert Byrnes)is 10-84
12:11 hours
Car 4A is 10-8, Division 13 is Incident Commander.
12:32 hours - Duration 2 hours 23 minutes
FC: Progress report on Box 1407, primary searches on the 2nd and 3rd floors are complete and negative, k, the secondaries are in progress.
12:36 hours - Duration 2 hours 27 minutes
FC: Progress report on the 3rd Alarm Box 1407, Division 13 reports: The primary searches throughout the fire building are complete and negative, the secondaries are underway, and the fire is Under Control.
Relocations
Engines: 275/265, 319/266, 233/329, 259/331
Ladders: 155/121, 135/155, 150/134, 120/137, 125/173
Battalions: 48/43, 51/47, 52/51

Date: 3/9/11
Time: 12:10 hours
Location: Burgher Ave x Richmond Rd
Frequency: FDNY Staten Island
Units Operating: FDNY, FDNY EMS, NYPD ESU, NYPD Highway
Weather Conditions: fair
Description Of Incident: serious MVA between fire apparatus and civilian vehicles with 1 civilian fatality
Reporters/Writer: ryang
News report: http://www.silive.com/eastshore/index.ssf/2011/03/staten_island_crash_between_fi.html
Additional info:
Dongan Hills, Staten Island, NY, 3/9/11
Location: Burgher Ave and Richmond Rd
12:10 hours
NYPD SOD calling ESU for a reported 10-34 involving FD at Burgher Ave and Richmond Rd, reports an unruly crowd forming at the location.
12:10 hours
Box 1441 - L81 involved in a MVA.
E159, TL85
Safety Battalion, Battalion 22 S/C

12:12 hours
L81: Burgher Ave and Richmond Rd, we have a major accident, notify EMS.
Division 8, Rescue 5 S/C

12:12 hours
Battalion 21 available replacing Battalion 22
12:16 hours
L81: Start out another truck and Rescue 5
E159: There is a confirmed pin, have rescue assigned.
12:19 hours
Battalion 21: We do have an accident, extrication in progress, PD and EMS on scene, 2 vehicles involved, at this time we will have at least 3 patients, I'll get back to you with further, k.
12:32 hours
BC21: Can you put E161 on our Box, they're 10-84, they're going to operate as a CFRD engine, k.

12:36 hours
Car 1C (Commissioner's Liaison) is responding

12:40 hours
Car 8 (DAC Michael Marrone, Staten Island Borough Commander) is responding

12:48 hours
Division 8: We're going down to 1 and 1, Rescue will go 10-8 as they become available.
12:49 hours
Car 12A (Executive Officer of Safety/Inspectional Services) is responding
13:30 hours
E166 S/C to relieve E159
Relocations:
E156/161, L84/85

Date: 1/15/11
Time: 06:55 hours
Location: 101-14 110 st near 101 Ave
Frequency: FDNY Queens
Weather Conditions: cold
Description Of Incident: fire in the basement of a private dwelling extended to the 1st floor. Conditions made difficult by dead hydrant and Collyer's Mansion condition.
Reporters/Writer: ryang
Additional Info:
South Richmond Hill, Queens, NY, 1/15/2011
Address: 101-14 110 st between 101 and 103 ave
06:53 hours
Phone Box 6027 - Report of a basement fire
Engs. 285, 308, Squad 270
TL142, T143
Battalion 51
10-75-6027 - 6:57 hours
Battalion 51: 10-75 the Box, 2 story semi-attached private dwelling
E294
L126 (FAST Truck)
Battalion 50
Division 13
Rescue 4
Squad 288
10-70-6027 - 06:59 hours
Division 13: 10-84, transmit a 10-70 for a bad hydrant, extra engine and truck.
E294 is the Water Relay Co.
E293, L173 S/C
07:01 hours
BC51: There's an address change, it's 101-14 k. It's a 2 story flat roof 20x40. Exposure 1 is a street, 2 is a similar detached, 3 is unknown, 4 is a similar detached. 1 line stretched and in operation, we have fire in the basement at this time k. Fire is Doubtful.
CIDS for 101-14 110 st:
2 story private dwelling 20x40 class 4. Window bars in the basement.
7-5-6027 - 07:02 hours
RAC4
2-2-6027 - 07:03 hours
Engs. 303, 331, 298
E324 w/ Satellite 4
TL127
Battalion 39 (Safety Officer)
Battalion 54 (Resource Unit Leader)
Safety, Rescue Battalions
Tactical Support 1
FieldCom 1
Car 13B (DAC Joseph Woznica, DAC of Fire Prevention)
07:07 hours
DC13: 2nd Alarm Box 6027, we have 3 lines stretched, all in operation, we have fire in the basement extended to the 1st floor, searches are in progress, fire is Doubtful. The next arriving truck on scene, have them come into the front of the fire building, they're going to work.
07:12 hours - Duration 20 minutes
2nd Alarm Box 6027, we have 4 lines stretched, 3 in operation, trucks are opening up, searches are in progress, fire is Doubtful. We're having problems getting to the fire because of a Collyer's Mansion in the basement. We have no report on the searches right now, making progress with the handline.
07:12 hours
The staging area is 101 Ave and 111 st
07:21 hours - Duration 29 minutes
DC13: 2nd Alarm Box 6027, we have 5 lines stretched, 4 in operation, searches still being delayed due to Collyer's Mansion condition, we're going to remain Doubtful at this time.
07:23 hours - Duration 31 minutes
DC13: 2nd Alarm Box 6027, primary searches throughout are complete and negative, we're going Probably Will Hold.
Thawing Unit 5 S/C
07:27 hours - Duration 35 minutes
FieldCom: Progress Report on the 2nd Alarm Box 6027, the address 101-14 110 st, between 101 Ave and 103 Ave, Division 13 reports: Primary searches throughout are negative. The secondary searches are in progress. Secondary searches in the cellar will be delayed due to Collyer's Mansion condition, fire Probably Will Hold.
07:40 hours - Duration 48 minutes
FC: Progress Report on the 2nd Alarm Box 6027, the address 101-14 110 st, between 101 Ave and 103 Ave, Car 13B, DAC Woznica reports: the secondary searches on the 1st floor are complete and negative. Secondary searches on the 2nd floor are complete and negative. Place this fire Under Control, also transmits a 10-41 code 1 (Suspicious Fire, Occupied Structure), heavy volume of fire on arrival in the cellar.
TL155 S/C
Relocations:
E304/285, E286/294, E332/298, E311/303, E315/308, L154/143, BC37/51

Date: 12/18/10
Time: 05:40 hours
Location: 1052 57 st between 11 ave and Ft. Hamilton Parkway
Frequency: FDNY Brooklyn
Weather Conditions: freezing
Description Of Incident: fully-involved 3 story private dwelling
Reporters/Writer: ryang
Additional Info:
Borough Park, Brooklyn, NY, 12/18/10
Address: 1052 57 st between 11 Ave and Ft. Hamilton Parkway
05:37 hours
Phone Box 2606 - Report of fire in a private dwelling
Engs. 247, 282, 201
L148, TL114
Battalion 40
10-75-2606 - 05:40 hours
E241
TL149 (FAST Truck)
Battalion 42
Squad 1
Rescue 5
Division 8
2-2-2606 - 05:47 hours
Engs. 228, 242, 243, 220
E284 w/ Satellite 3
L109, L168
Battalion 48 (Safety Officer)
Battalion 33 (Resource Unit Leader)
Safety, Rescue Battalions
Tactical Support 2
FieldCom 1
RAC5
Car 4C (AC Ronald Spadafora, Chief of Logistics)
05:49 hours - Duration 13 minutes
Battalion 40: We've got a fire on the 3rd floor, 2nd floor, 1st floor, 20x50 3 story private dwelling, 1052 57 st, occupied brick. 3 lines stretched in operation, primary searches being conducted, fire is Doubtful. 1 is a street, 2 is an alley, 3 is a rear yard, 4 is an alley.
05:53 hours
The staging area is Fort Hamilton Parkway at 56 st
05:57 hours
Battalion 42 is taking Incident Command
05:58 hours
Car 17 is responding
06:01 hours - Duration 23 minutes
Division 8: We have 3 lines stretched, 3 in operation, we have fire on the 2nd floor and above. Searches are being delayed due to heavy fire condition, we are currently pulling companies out going to an exterior operation.
06:10 hours - Duration 33 minutes
Car 4C: At the box, we have fire throughout the building, all members are out of the building, we have a tower ladder operating, we have the fire flanked on both sides, searches are delayed due to heavy fire condition, fire is Doubtful, can you have DEP and Buildings respond.
06:15 hours - Duration 37 minutes
FieldCom: As per Chief Spadafora, Car 4C, like to transmit a 10-41 code 1 (Suspicious Fire, Occupied Structure), notify the marshals, heavy volume of fire on arrival.
06:19 hours - Duration 42 minutes
FC: Progress Report #3 on the 2nd Alarm Box 2606, at this time Car 4C, AC Spadafora, reports: they have 1 tower ladder in operation, the main body of fire has been knocked down, still hitting pockets of fire. They will shut down the tower ladder in a few minutes and will have the Safety Battalion do a stability test on the structure to determine if it is safe to move in with a handline, fire is still Doubtful.
06:27 hours
DEP advises they are en-route, Buildings Dept. will get back with an ETA.
06:31 hours
Buildings Dept. reports a 45 minute ETA.
06:35 hours - Duration 57 minutes
FC: Progress Report #4 on the 2nd Alarm Box 2606, at this time Car 4C, AC Spadafora, reports: The primary searches of the 2nd floor and the attic are negative. They're in the process of removing members from the building, switching back to an exterior operation, fire remains Doubtful.
06:42 hours - Duration 1 hour 4 minutes
FC: Progress Report #5 on the 2nd Alarm Box 2606, at this time Car 4C, AC Spadafora, reports: He has 1 tower ladder in operation, they are operating 3 lines from the exterior, 1 from the roof of exposure 2. Main body of fire has been knocked down. Fire was in a wood frame with a brick exterior, fire remains Doubtful.
06:47 hours - Duration 1 hour 9 minutes
FC: Progress Report #6 on the 2nd Alarm Box 2606, at this time Car 4C, AC Spadafora, reports: Primary searches are complete and negative throughout, the secondary searches will be delayed due to the structural stability of the building, the fire remains at Doubtful.
06:56 hours - Duration 1 hour 19 minutes
FC: Progress Report #7 on the 2nd Alarm Box 2606, the address 1052 57 st, at this time AC Spadafora, Car 4C reports: They are shutting down all exterior handlines. They will conduct secondary searches within the limits of safety established by the Safety Battalion, and places the fire Probably Will Hold.
07:07 hours
ConEd reports a 45 minute ETA, Keyspan reports a 20 minute ETA
07:23 hours - Duration 1 hour 45 minutes
Car 4C: AC Spadafora reports: Secondary searches are going to be delayed due to safety issues, primary searches are complete and negative, we're going to go Under Control.
Relocations:
E248/201, E202/242, E283/282, TL105/114, L113/148, TL159/149, BC31/42

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My interpretation of this cryptic message;
He bought this rig.
He's looking for photos and information about the rig when it belonged to Carmel.
Apparently he wants to restore it to what it looked like when Carmel owned it.
Question for the poster: Show us a photograph of what it looks like now, in your possession.
That should clear up whether this a joke or not.
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Date: 11/24/10
Time: 12:05 hours
Location: 103 st x Roosevelt Ave, under the IRT
Frequency: FDNY Queens
Weather Conditions: cold
Description Of Incident: fire in a taxpayer extended to exposures with multiple 10-45s
Reporters/Writer: ryang
Additional Info:
Corona, Queens, NY, 11/24/10
Address: 103-17 Roosevelt Ave between 103 and 104 sts
12:05 hours
Phone Box 9381 - Report of fire in a store
Engs. 316, 324
L154
Battalion 46

E289 (1st due), L136 available assigned

10-75-9381 - 12:07 hours
E287
L129 (FAST Truck)
Battalion 52
Division 14
Squad 270

12:09 hours
Rescue 4, Squad 288 available replacing Squad 270

12:11 hours
E307 is a block away, assigned in
2-2-9381 - 12:12 hours
Battalion 46: At your address we have fire in the barber shop, we have 2 lines stretched, 2 in operation, transmit the 2nd Alarm.
Engs 273, 292, 274
E291 w/ Satellite 4
TL163, TL117
Battalion 49 (Safety Officer)
Battalion 45 (Resource Unit Leader)
Safety, Rescue Battalions
Tactical Support 1
FieldCom 1, Command Tactical Unit
RAC4

12:12 hours
E291 will be delayed due to BISP
12:17 hours
As per FDOC, Buildings Dept. has a stop-work order due to sagging roof beams from a previous fire.
Queens unable to raise any unit on scene, message relayed to Battalion 45.
12:19 hours
The staging area is 100 st and Roosevelt Ave
12:21 hours
Division 14: 9381, we have 2 lines stretched and in operation, we have fire in the rear of the taxpayer, we need an extra tower ladder to come into the front of the fire building, we're clearing a spot now, also we request train traffic to shut down above us. Exposure 1 is a street, 2 is an attached similar, 3 is a lot, 4 is another lot. 1 story taxpayer, 25x50.
17:23 hours
DC14: I need the 1st tower ladder coming in to come in east of our location, they won't be able to get in from the west.
17:25 hours
Car 9 (DAC John Sudnik, Queens Borough Commander) is responding.
17:26 hours
DC14: We can bypass train traffic, we do not need complete power-off. We have fire in the rear of 103-17 Roosevelt into the cockloft, we have extension to exposure 2 and 2A. We have 4 lines stretched in operation, trucks are opening up.
17:31 hours
MTA reports a supervisor en-scene
17:32 hours
Receiving report of smoke in 103-24 Roosevelt Ave
12:33 hours - Duration 27 minutes
DC14: At this Box we have primaries negative in the fire building, exposure 2, and 2a. All visible fire seems to have been extinguished, extinguishing fire in the cockloft, trucks opening up.
12:39 hours - Duration 35 minutes
FieldCom: Progress report for your 2nd Alarm Box 9381, the address 103-17 Roosevelt Ave between 103 st and 104 st, building is a 1 brick 25x50 commercial used as a taxpayer, fire located in the rear with extension to exposure 02 and 02A. Division 14, ADC McBride, reports: all visible fire has been extinguished, secondary searches in progress, Probably Will Hold.
12:50 hours
FC: Request gas and electric utilities, gas electric have been shut down to 103-15 and 103-17 Roosevelt Ave
12:52 hours
FC: On 9381, the address 103-24 Roosevelt Ave has been shut down
12:58 hours - Duration 54 minutes
FC: Progress report #4 for your 2nd Alarm Box 9381, the address 103-17 Roosevelt Ave between 103 st and 104 st, building is a 1 brick 25x50 commercial used as a taxpayer, fire located in the rear of a store with extension to exposure 02 and 02A. Car 9, DAC Sudnik reports: secondary searches in the fire building, exposure 02 and 02 A negative. Request Buildings Dept. to respond to check the sagging beams, fire Under Control.
13:02 hours
FC: At Box 9381, Car 9 reports 5 10-45 code 4s (Green Tag, Minor)
13:11 hours
FC: By orders of Car 9 we have an additional 3 10-45 code 4s, that's a total of 8 10-45 code 4s.
Relocations:
E64/316, E76/292, E313/274, T108/136, BC57/46, BC16/49

The engine, was absolutely close enough and right against the rail with a stick right next to it. Those east side piers are very strong and fully capable of the construction traffic they regularly handle. Much of the FDR, and substantial strictures all around Manhattan are built on these piers. They had all the hard suction off the first engine and one guy looked like he was trying to explain to the chauffeur how to position the rig. The BC arrived and then the suction was dropped and they started hand stretching.
In drafting the distance or number of lengths isn't as much of a problem as the vertical height you have to pull the water. 10 feet is within spec for the new engines and two lengths of suction would have made the water. I know I was behind Eng 80 going to the fire, but I don't remember who got to the pier first.
FDNY was well prepared to keep everyone safe. There were life vests a plenty. R3 and the marine unit had guys ready to go in, but if there had been a life at risk they would have had serious problems. They attempted to use the deck guy but the valve to the gun was opened before the pump was spun up, so by the time the stream reached and was aimed at the fire most of the water was lost in the river.
I'm about as big a cheerleader as there is for FDNY and have benefited greatly from the knowledge of many of their members. This was not their strong suit.

Date: 9/10/10
Time: 00:30 hours
Location: E39 st x 3rd Ave
Frequency: FDNY Manhattan
Weather Conditions: cool and windy
Description Of Incident: fire through the roof on arrival
Reporters/Writer: ryang
Additional Info:
East Midtown, Manhattan, NY, 9/10/10
Address: 593 3rd Ave @ E39 st
Also affected: 200 E 39 st @ 3rd Ave
00:33 hours
Phone Box 753 - Report of fire from the roof of a restaurant
Engs 65, 8, 1
TL7, L24
Battalion 9

00:33 hours
E21, Battalion 8 re-directed in
10-75-753 - 00:34 hours
E21: 10-75, we have fire in a 1 story taxpayer, fire showing through the roof!
E16
L4 (FAST Truck)
Battalion 9 designated the "10-75 Chief"
Division 3
Rescue 1
Squad 18
7-5-753 - 00:37 hours
Battalion 8: We've got fire through the roof, can you send us another truck, k, All-Hands, send us a tower ladder, k.
TL21 S/C
RAC1
00:41 hours - Duration 9 minutes
Fire Building Height/Size-up:
Commercial 1 story 100x75 Taxpayer
Exposures are:
1 - street
2 - street
3 - 3 story MD
4 - 5 story MD
2-2-753 - 00:45 hours
Engs. 26, 14, 54
E207 w/ Satellite 6
L2
Battalion 6 re-directed in as the "Safety Officer"
Battalion 7 (Resource Unit Leader)
Rescue, Safety Battalion
Tactical Support 1
FieldCom 1

00:48 hours
Division 3: Command Post is set up on the corner of 3rd Ave and 39th st, have all units report in to the Command Post.
00:54 hours
TL12, L3, Battalion 10 S/C
00:55 hours - Duration 23 minutes
DC3: Box 753, the address 200 East 39 st, we have a taxpayer, 1 story, dimensions 100x75, fire's located on the 1st floor, possible extension through the roof and into the cockloft. We have 2 lines stretched in operation, 1st line to the 1st floor, 2nd to the roof. Primary searches are in progress. At this time the fire is Doubtful, k.
01:10 hours
The staging area is E41 st and 3rd Ave
3-3-753 - 01:12 hours
FC: As per the 3rd division, transmit the 3rd Alarm. We have a smoke condition in the basement, main body of fire has been knocked down, checking for extension, checking the integrity of the building. Also can we get an extra Battalion Chief on the 3rd.
Engs. 34, 3, 263 acting 5, 39
Battalions 35 acting 6, 1
Battalion 45 (Staging Manager)
Mask Service Unit
Car 1E (Commissioner's Liaison)
Car 13A (AC Richard Tobin, Assistant Chief of Fire Prevention)
01:21 hours
FC: I have a correction on the address: the address is 593 3rd, and that's a 100x25 on the dimensions. That's connected to 200 E39, and that's 50x100.
01:34 hours - Duration 1 hour 2 minutes
FC: Progress report on 3rd Alarm Box 753, AC Tobin, Car 13A, reports: he has heavy fire in the cockloft of 200 East 39. He's removed all members from the fire building. They are going to an exterior operation. Moving tower ladders around to put them into operation. Request 2 trucks to respond to the staging area.
TL9, L11 S/C
01:37 hours
FC: Also notify the utilities, gas and electric, to respond, to shut down supply to the building.
01:39 hours
Fuel Tender Unit is 10-84
01:42 hours - Duration 1 hour 10 minutes
FC: Progress report on 3rd Alarm Box 753, the address 200 East 39 st at 3rd Ave, AC Tobin, Car 13A, reports: All members have been removed from the building and the roof area. Tower Ladders are set up and in operation. Fire is still being caried as Doubtful. Roll call has been conducted and all members are accounted for.
01:52 hours
FC: At this time exposure 3 and exposure 4 have been evacuated.
01:53 hours
Battalion 39-Air Recon is airborne and has a 5 minute ETA.
01:55 hours
ConEd Gas reports on-scene
ConEd Electric reports an ETA of under 1 hour
02:22 hours
FC: Progress report for your 3rd Alarm Box 753, the address 200 East 39 st at 3rd Ave, 1 story 50x100. AC Tobin, Car 13A reports: 2 tower ladders in operation, 1 mult-versatile in operation, 1 hand line in operation. It's an.exterior operation All occupants have been accounted for. This is going to be a long term exterior operation. Still Doubtful.
02:24 hours
Receiving the address 235 E 39 st reporting smoke in apartment 3R
4-4-753 - 02:24 hours
Engs. 33, 28, 40, 22
E262 w/ IMT Unit
Battalion 4 (Planning Sections Chief)
02:28 hours
FC: Have 1 engine from the 4th Alarm respond to the southwest corner of 39 st and 2nd Ave to pick up a hydrant at that location
02:31 hours
Receiving the address 235 E 40 st reporting smoke in apartment 5B
02:33 hours
FC: Please special call 3 trucks to the 4th Alarm, have them respond to the staging area. Also you can turn around E262, the Planning Chief, and the Planning Vehicle.
T20, T5, L16 S/C
02:40 hours
Receiving the address 240 E39 st, apartment 8H, caller reports her apartment is "getting hot."
02:43 hours
FC: Units checked out 235 E40, 5B, it was odor of smoke from the 4th alarm.
02:45 hours
Car 12 (DAC Stephen Raynis, Chief of Safety and Inspectional Services) is responding

02:52 hours
Car 36B (Department Chaplain) is responding

02:56 hours
FC: Units checked 235 East 39, 3R, that was an odor from the 4th alarm. They also checked out 240 East 39, 8H, that was also an odor of smoke.
03:27 hours - Duration 2 hours 55 minutes
FC: At your 4th Alarm Box 753, the address 200 East 39 st, 2nd to 3rd Aves, Car 13A, AC Tobin reports: This is going to be an extended exterior operation. He's got 3 multi-versatiles in operation, 2 tower ladders in operation, 2 handlines in operation. Still trying to put out pockets of fire within the cockloft area, still Doubtful Will Hold.
5-5-753 - 04:18 hours
FC: At 4th Alarm Box 753, Car 13A, AC Tobin, would like to transmit a 5th Alarm for relief purposes, have them respond to the staging area. Also places this fire Probably Will Hold, this will be an extensive exterior operation. On the 5th Alarm can you give us the two trucks please.
Engs. 23, 44, 40?, 258
TL13, TL35?

04:51 hours
FC: Special call 1 Battalion Chief to the scene, he's going to replace the Safety Battalion. Also special call another RAC unit to the scene to replace the one we have.
Battalion 32 (Safety Officer), RAC3 S/C
04:59 hours
L30 (FAST Truck) S/C
05:18 hours
FC: we're going to need PD for security at the addresses 589 and 591 3rd Ave
05:56 hours
FC: Progress report for 5th Alarm Box 753, address 200 East 39 st, at 3rd Ave, AC Tobin, Car 13A reports: They are swapping out tower ladders. Still extinguishing pockets of fire. They're operating outside the collapse area. Conditions remain unchanged, this will be a prolonged operation. It will be Probably Will Hold still, and we will need 3 engines, 2 trucks, and 3 Battalion Chiefs for relief purposes.
Engs. 35, 4 15 S/C
TL1, TL22 S/C
Battalions 16, 3, 17 S/C
06:13 hours
FC: If you have one of those engines, have it come down 3rd Ave from above 40th st, and they will take the hydrant on 39th st and supply the Tower Ladder.
06:25 hours
FC: If you could raise the chiefs coming in on the 5th Alarm, just have them come into the Command Post.
06:59 hours
Tactical Support 2 is responding to relieve Tactical Support 1
07:05 hours - Duration 6 hours 35 minutes
FC: 5th Alarm Box 753, the address 200 East 39 st, AC Tobin, Car 13A, reports: still operating with 2 tower ladders, 2 handlines, and 2 multi-versatiles. There's a complete collapse of the roof area. Still trying to get to pockets of fire with some difficulty due to the complete roof collapse. Still an exterior operation, conditions remain unchanged, still Probably Will Hold.
07:20 hours
E23 reports a verbal for a manhole pushing black smoke at E 41 st and 3rd Ave
07:50 hours - Duration 7 hours 18 minutes
FC: Progress report for your 5th Alarm Box 753, the address 200 East 39 st off of 3rd Ave, at this time AC Tobin, Car 13A places this fire Under Control. Also reports this is an extensive hydraulic overhaul, he's going to need the use of an All-Hands assignment. We will look for that assignment for relief at 0900 hours.
Relocations:
Engines: 239/3, 292/14, 91/16, 47/21, 291/23, 237/26, 224/28, 73/44, 221/65
Ladders: 8/4, 110/5, 101/3, 31/13, 28/20, 26/24
Battalions: 57/1, 35/6, 46/7, 12/8

Date: 8/29/10
Time: 01:00 hours
Location: Flatbush Ave x Flatlands Ave
Frequency: FDNY Brooklyn
Weather Conditions: clear
Description Of Incident: heavy fire in a commercial taxpayer
Reporters/Writer: ryang
Flatlands, Brooklyn, NY, 8/29/10
Address: 1969 Flatbush Ave between Flatlands Ave and Lott Pl
01:01 hours
Phone Box 3086 - Report of fire in a Chinese restaurant
Engs. 309, 255, 323
TL159, TL157
Battalion 33
10-75-3086 - 01:03 hours
E276
L156 (FAST Truck)
Battalion 41
Division 15
Rescue 2
Squad 1
7-5-3086 - 01:07 hours
Battalion 33: Box 3086, we need an extra engine, extra truck, we have good smoke condition in the adjoining stores.
E321, T147 S/C
RAC5
CIDS for 1967 Flatbush Ave:
Taxpayer 90x100. Large dumbwaiter shaft in the rear.
01:10 hours
BC33: 1 story commercial, 2 lines stretched, 1 in operation, trucks are opening up. Fire is Doubtful.
Exposures are:
1 - street
2 - street
3 - private dwelling separated by a yard
4 - similar attached
2-2-3086 - 01:11 hours
Engs. 248, 281, 310
E284 w/ Satellite 3
L174
Battalion 58 (Safety Officer)
Battalion 48 (Resource Unit Leader)
Safety, Rescue Battalions
Tactical Support 2
FieldCom 1, Command Tactical Unit
01:13 hours - Duration 14 minutes
BC33: Can you assign an additional tower ladder, 1 tower ladder is stuck in the up position.
TL153 S/C
01:17 hours
The staging area is Flatbush Ave and Hubbard Pl
01:29 hours - Duration 29 minutes
Car 4G (DAC Edward Baggott, Deputy Assistant Chief of Operations - Administration)is responding
13:39 hours
Division 15: Can we have a Department Mechanic respond for 159 truck, it's stuck in the up position.
01:43 hours - Duration 43 minutes
FieldCom: 2nd Alarm Box 3086, the address 1969 Flatbush Ave,between Lott Pl and Flatlands Ave, it's a 1 story taxpayer 90x100. At this time Division 15 reports: fire in the cockloft, heavy fire in 2 stores, gone to exterior operations, roll call was conducted, and fire remains Doubtful. Also can you have the Department Mechanic respond, 159's bucket is stuck in the area. Also have gas and electric companies here to check it out.
01:46 hours
Staging area has been changed to Flatbush Ave between Ave L and Kings Highway.
01:48 hours
ConEd reports a crew enroute
National Grid reports a 20 minute ETA
Shops Mechanic is responding
01:50 hours
FC: Special call 2 additional trucks, 1 to be a tower ladder, and I'm awaiting any special instructions.
TL170, TL172 S/C
01:51 hours
FC: We need 1 of the tower ladders to respond to the exposure 3 side which is Flatlands Ave, and rendezvous with Battalion 41.
01:56 hours - Duration 56 minutes
FC: Have the other truck report into the Command Post. I'll get you a report but I don't think much has changed.
3-3-3086 - 01:58 hours
Engs. 250, 254, 330, 249
Battalion 38
Battalion 44 (Staging Manager)
Battalion 32 acting 33 (Air Recon Chief)
Mask Service Unit
Car 36B (Department Chaplain)
Car 1E (Commissioner's Liaison)
02:04 hours
FC: Be advised we have a command channel set up. Advise the 32 when he gets in the air to contact the command post.
02:05 hours
Battalions 35, 37 S/C
02:07 hours
Department Mechanic has a 15 minute ETA
02:07 hours - Duration 1 hour 8 minutes
Battalion 39 assigned replacing Battalion 32 acting 33 as the "Air Recon Chief"
02:11 hours - Duration 1 hour 11 minutes
FC: 2nd Alarm Box 3086, 1969 Flatbush Ave, Lott Pl to Flatlands Ave, 1 story taxpayer approximately 90x100, at this time Car 4G, DAC Baggott, reports: heavy fire in the cockloft of 4 stores. Have 3 tower ladders set up in operation, 1 multi-versatile set up in operation, 2nd one being set up. 4 hand lines in operation, fire remains Doubtful, k.
02:15 hours
FDOC requests a confirmation on the address
02:16 hours
FC: It's a whole row of taxpayer, it's the taxpayer from block to block, it's the last 4 buildings on the 3-4 side. we have heavy fire and collapse zone set up, I don't know if I'll be able to get you that soon.
02:25 hours
FC: Special call 2 trucks, doesn't matter what kind they are. Have them report to the Command Post. Also make a note: one of the buildings is Chase Bank. We forced entry, we have smoke but no fire at this time.
02:26 hours
FC: Send 1 to the Command Post, and 1 to staging.
L169 S/C to the Command Post
L113 S/C to Staging
02:32 hours - Duration 1 hour 32 minutes
02:38 hours - Duration 1 hour 38 minutes
FC: The address of the original fire building is 1977 Flatbush Ave. Progress report for 3rd alarm Box 3086, it's a 1 story taxpayer on Flatbush Ave between Lott Pl and Flatlands Ave, dimensions 90x100. Car 4 George, DAC Baggott, reports: 5 tower ladders set up in operation. 3 multi-versatiles set up in operation. 4 hand lines operating from the exterior. Heavy fire in the cockloft of 4 stores, fire remains Doubtful.
02:50 hours
FC: Special call 2 additional trucks, make 1 a Tower Ladder, have them go to staging.
L132, TL120 S/C
02:55 hours
FC: Have 120 set up on Flatlands, hook up with the 41 Battalion.
03:03 hours - Duration 2 hours 3 minutes
FC: 3rd Alarm Box 3086, 1969 Flatbush Ave, Lott Pl to Flatlands Ave, it's a 1 story taxpayer, 90x100, fire in numerous stores, 4 stores, DAC Baggott reports: 6 tower ladders in operation, 4 hand lines in operation from the exterior, 3 multi-versatiles in operation, fire is darkening down, still Doubtful.
03:17 hours - Duration 2 hhours 17 minutes
FC: Notify Department of Health, we have 2 food establishments. 1 is a bagel store, and the other is a Chinese store.
03:41 hours - Duration 2 hours 41 minutes
FC: Progress Report for 3rd Alarm Box 3086, 1969 Flatbush Ave between Lott Pl and Flatlands Ave, it's a 1 story taxpayer 90x100, runs the entire block, at this time Car 4 George, DAC Baggott reports: continuing to operate with 6 tower ladders, 4 handlines from the exterior, 3 multi-versatiles. Main body of fire has been knocked down in the original fire building. Now have extension to the 2 story bank which is the far store on the 1-4 side. Have 1 handline, 1 tower ladder operating in the Chase Bank. Still Doubtful.
Relocations:
Engines: 216/241, 205/250, 282/255, 222/283, 246/309, 332/310, 283/321
Ladders: 10/132, 20/147, 114/153, 161/159, 176/170, 131/172
Battalions: 32/33, 4/38, 57/41, 1/48
[END OF REPORT]

That random "Dude" playing with the stabilizing jacks, just so happens to have stayed at a holiday inn last night, so we let him play firefighter.
Maybe we should make our drivers wear SCBA's while driving, since the motto was, Always use proper PPE.... Seriously!
This "Dude" is a highly respected member of our department and always operates with the upmost safety.
If you want to ask legitimate questions that’s fine.

Again, I must ask...what in tarnation is a tanker????

As the "OP" (took me a minute to figure out what that meant) I strongly believe that the thread should remain open at this time. The "OP" was only made 4 days ago. I would bet that a lot of members have not yet had an opportunity to read it. Especially in light of the Holiday week. Many of our members will most likely be shocked to learn of some of the aspects of this whole issue and they should be given the opportunity to do so.
I also believe that several members would like to see this thread go away because the truth hurts and they don't want this information out there. Further, I think we will see positive change come out of this thread. Some departments will be proactive and others will be reactive. The reactive departments will make changes only after there is a tragedy and someone dredges up the information from this thread and delivers it to the media and / or elected officials. This will show that the problem was known about in advance and those responsible failed to make changes. At that point, change will be demanded by outsiders and it will come swiftly.
The very fact that several individuals are so outraged by this thread begs for it to remain open. If you believe that this whole thing is a non-issue, just don't read it.
Also, for those who repeatedly state that this is not the forum for this discussion...I think it is the perfect forum. Sure, there are other avenues for obtaining, discussing, and disseminating this information. However, for myself and others who love the fire service yet are quite pressed for time normally, this is great. It's fairly convenient to check in here from time to time to check up on the IA's and other issues posted on here and then chime in as time and energy permit.

1.) See KCRD's post from 11:11 this morning. He says it, using the word inferior. I raised that issue back at him.
2.) See KCRD's post from 11:11 this morning. Again, he uses the word inferior. I substituted the word shoddy in this instance.
3.) Who appointed you, JFlynn, or your respective "boys" the judges and juries with respect to how a department other than your own is doing? Don't you think that's the business of each other departments' Chiefs, Board of Fire Commissioners, Members, and most importantly, residents themselves? Unless you or a loved one lives in a district that you know provides inferior service (again, KCRD's word), why is there the constant gripe about what the volunteers do, their staffing issues, their response times, and all the other bullcrap? I've met paid guys who are worth their salt and I've met volunteers who are worth their salt. Conversely, I've met some paid guys who are pretty useless and I've met some volunteers who are pretty useless. That said, no one can paint the opposing side with a broad brush. And that includes coming on here and demanding to know answers to questions that have been killed ten times over in the past. How would you like it if I listened to 60 one day when you were getting slammed and I came on here to raise questions about YOUR department? I'm pretty sure it would piss you off. And I'm pretty sure it would piss you off if I came on here every third day to talk smack - in general - about your "brothers." We all put the wet stuff on the red stuff, we're all "brothers;" who gives a flying crap what side of the line we're on, and who gives a flying crap about a parade? Don't you think department leadership is responsible enough to maybe perhaps CANCEL their participation in the particular parade if it came to light that their immediate jurisdiction was left short? Nobody ever mentioned that, now did they?

There may be issues, but that's not totally my beef. Ever hear of the phrase, "it's not really what you say, but how you say it?" When a person consistently comes online to hammer the same general topics over and over and over and over again, all with a perceived arrogance within the tone of the questions posed ("give me facts," "I want specifics," "I want to know," "I want, I want, I want, give me, give me, give me," etc. and not "thanks for what you do, but I have a question regarding x issue"), it is going to rankle feathers. Yes, I made a couple of "snide" remarks, mainly because this baby crap-on-the-vollies-because-they're-not-truly-part-of-the-brotherhood stuff that has proliferated on here ad-nauseum needs to stop. Every last post of his is nit-picky on the part of the volunteers and after reading it day in and day out, I finally said something. As a volunteer, I take great pride in what I do and I have an awful lot of respect for the people who volunteer in their community, doing so not for a paycheck, but because they want to help their fellow neighbor. Now, just like how I would probably encounter the crapstorm of a lifetime if I came on here and consistently had something nit-picky to say about career guys - for instance maybe saying something like how career fire fighters sit around all day watching TV, doing nothing except waiting for the next job to come in (which, for the record is NOT my belief) - I think it should work the other way, too. QTIPs generally only go so far until they start invading the brain, at which time they usually become rather irritating.

Our automatic tri-village dispatch is not in place out of "need" to deal with "even a private dwelling fire", but is instead a proactive policy to deal with "What If". The other two departments are dispatched to stand-by in quarters, and apparatus is called in as-needed. Our departments have designated first, second and third alarm assignments from within the area to deal with what MAY occur. It's a pre-plan, in place and it works. For example- My department does not operate a ladder truck therefore we rely on any of the surrounding departments which border us on any side to provide one if needed. The point is, instead of waiting to arrive on scene and then have one dispatched, the other two depts. are already in quarters ready to roll. We operate a dedicated cascade truck which we will respond anywhere called upon as we did at this fire, with qualified interior firefighters two of which in this case, were put to work. Volunteer numbers within many departments are lower than what they once were as many who grew up in their communities cannot afford to live in them anymore so they move out. Others work two jobs and cannot volunteer their time. Planning for this possible shortfall in available manpower with multiple area departments is a working alternative to consolidation.

This fire got a huge head start before anyone was ever aware of it- burning in the walls of an unoccupied home with rapid spread to the attic before any units arrived. Crews from Put. Valley, Yorktown, Peekskill and as I can personally attest, Buchanan, worked with Mohegan in an excellent and coordinated effort and kept the damage from being worse than it was eventually was. Should mutual aid departments be included on the initial dispatch? That is a question Mohegan should consider, at least during the daytime hours. We do it in the tri-village (Buchanan, Montrose and Verplanck)24/7/365 on all structure fire calls (even if it's an oven fire). The district with the fire is toned out immediately followed by the other two to man their stations. Works very well anytime of the day for all situations. Again- this fire was well involved before anyone even noticed and the crews did "make a good stop" considering what they faced. Not making excuses here Chief Flynn- just giving a little first-hand insight to what I experienced on scene.

You're telling us that we should expect the departments involved to maybe "have a lil bit of a hard time getting the engine out" and that we should "try to factor in how many of these people are working, or dedicated to some other issue in their lives" and that we should "give them a breaK"????
This was a private dwelling fire. right? So, if we should be understanding of an initial lack of manpower arriving in a timely manner at this fire, I guess we are going to need to be extremely understanding when there is a public assembly, multiple dwelling, or God forbid, a school fire in this area at 2:30 in the afternoon, and the people potentially trapped inside these aforementioned burning buildings and in need of rescue will need to be particularly understanding people as well I guess...
Why not just take an opportunity such as this to admit that there is a problem and try to fix it? Consolidation, regionalization, perhaps strategic use of career staffing...or, just cross your fingers and hope it all works out, and hope that everyone just "understands"...