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I was just wondering, who is considered the primary EMS agency for Yonkers?
Empress EMS is the transport agency
Yonkers FD is the first response agency and also has some special ops and supervisory responsibility
Yonkers PD ESU is also first response to significant incidents and has a Mass Care Transport Unit.
So would be considered primary?

Wow...guess it has been a long time since I left Empress....LOL

Captain Arledge retired

Reading some of the comments and posts here makes me smile, I am curious how many have no issues taking rigs to parades as far as Lake George for a weekend, it's parade people, some of these I am sure these rigs are valued over 1 million+ and paid for by the taxpayers of their districts, justified for purchased, yet this is ok? Personally I do not see how any fire district can justify taking any of their apparatus to a parade unless it's to a neighboring department, that just me as we are continually being asked or forced to do more with less.
Above it was posted that this vehicle is not a Chief staff vehicle and a fire district vehicle and perhaps just maybe the operator was in attendance at the Fire District conference that was the same weekend, are we really debating this topic without even having any facts other then this photo?

There is no public perception IMO one way or another. the public does not really care. Nor do the public officials.
We are the only ones who care. Usually some bitter member is the person who makes it a problem.
Yeh, I know... 9 years as a chief officer and I never had a problem taking my town issued car to work ( grant it was in the next town and I did respond to when I could. Ya know who made it a problem, a member that was disgruntled. He went out of his way to document via photos the 3 chiefs cars at work, at shopping etc. Needless today, one car sits in the chiefs driveway while he is at work the other two sit in the FD parking lot 18 hours a day and only used when a member wants to go to the pizza joint.
As one of my mentors and favorite Chiefs once said..." WE have met the enemy and WE are them".

In the Westchester County Police Academy we spent 2 days doing active shooter training. 1st day was all classroom 2nd was hands on training inside of a school. IMO it was good training but not enough of it. In Yonkers about 50% of us went though 2 days of active shooter training given by Home Land Security. IMO by far the best training i went though so far as a cop. YPD goal is to have the whole department going though this training.

Other than the taxpayers, who wouldn't know the difference of what type of vehicle it is or why it's out of district, the only people who really seem to care are US idiots on EMTB! Everyone who has or has had a take home car has abused the privelidge in some way, shape, or form. Some people take it to the grocery store, others take their kids to soccer practice, and others go to a fancy restaurant in the next county. But, who really cares? The abuse of the take home vehicle, both career and volunteer, has been going on for years, and will continue forever on into the future because the only people who can legally stop it (the taxpayers) aren't going to take the five minutes out of their days to write to the commissioners about the "vehicle" found three counties away! I know some of you here "ovey the rules" of the take home car, but face it, any one that has a free ride is going to use it.
I just find it to be a moot point for us to argue over when we're not the people who can fix it.

Sad but true.....morals and respect are G O N E

Some jackass posted a picture on facebook last night, as the incident was in progress. That BS drives me up a wall.....EVERYONE WANTS TO BE "THAT GUY" THAT HAS THE SCOOP..the first with information, the first to put up a picture.
I swear to God some of these sick phucks take pleasure in other's misfortune. Brotherhood my ass. Any MOS who exploits other agencies, members, or departments situations has no place in the "Brotherhood".
I am glad the outcome was better than it initially sounded. Get well.

Sad but true.....morals and respect are G O N E

Some jackass posted a picture on facebook last night, as the incident was in progress. That BS drives me up a wall.....EVERYONE WANTS TO BE "THAT GUY" THAT HAS THE SCOOP..the first with information, the first to put up a picture.
I swear to God some of these sick phucks take pleasure in other's misfortune. Brotherhood my ass. Any MOS who exploits other agencies, members, or departments situations has no place in the "Brotherhood".
I am glad the outcome was better than it initially sounded. Get well.

Sad but true.....morals and respect are G O N E

Some jackass posted a picture on facebook last night, as the incident was in progress. That BS drives me up a wall.....EVERYONE WANTS TO BE "THAT GUY" THAT HAS THE SCOOP..the first with information, the first to put up a picture.
I swear to God some of these sick phucks take pleasure in other's misfortune. Brotherhood my ass. Any MOS who exploits other agencies, members, or departments situations has no place in the "Brotherhood".
I am glad the outcome was better than it initially sounded. Get well.

I think that sums up what we, the public safety community, shoudl be focusing on - supporting these poor bastards that, yes, run way understaffed, who got bit. It was just a matter of time, and I bet every one of them knew it. And i can guaran-damn-tee that every member on that scene busted their asses and gave their all. Anyone says otherwise, politician, civillian, etc...aint worth the sweat on the balls of the guys on scene.
It's not just the Vern either...we all know the other jobs this could happen at...any day.

We have all our assignments setup in the CADS with Dutchess 911, which in most confirmed structure fire or larger type incidents, our station is automatically backfilled from a mutual aid company which obviously could depend on what department is available, as the normal relocation department is out on a run, or down an Engine, they then would be skipped over and we would get the next department and so on. Our OG for relocating or standby to another station is always no lights or siren, headlights only, that goes for any non emergency type calls that we may get (the old cat stuck in the tree) as well. Command in most cases will provide a progress report to the dispatch center as soon as they can to back down the response mode of the responding equipment.
For several years our preplans/dispatches have been set-up with placing mutual aid on the initial dispatch with us for those larger scaled incidents or structures within our fire district, our entire Battalion (5 departments) is very rural and mostly without hydrants so obviously we have to do things differently, like having to lay 5" from a static water source and drafting to supply water to a scene or running tanker shuttles, thus having those resources on the road as soon as possible makes a huge difference, its a lot easier to return them if they are not needed.

I love it.

For those of you that didnt know it that quote from above was the Mayors statement! Thnx for the support to all.

I need to know.. Does anyone actually think the public care about this when they see it? We all see it because we are on the job and notice it. I bet if you asked anyone in a parking lot when we come across these vehicles, they would A. have no clue where the Town is in the state and B. Not really care. Now i am not talking about just this one instance. I am talking about any time it happens. The public do not care until it is a big deal (ie. a accident or something). John Q public is going to be more worried about his shopping, getting to work, (why aren't my darn kids here where i said i would pick them up) then even care about this. Plus nothing will ever happen to change it. You can make rules that you cant go out of town with it but so what. What if he needs to go see a few chiefs or need to make a pick up somewhere of some gear, is he going to check in with mommy to ask if he can leave the block? Exactly. He is the chief, he is the boss. you might not like it but he has the authority to go where he wants. If on the other hand he takes a apparatus then ya we need to know every mile you are gonna take.
Now let the man shop and stop stirring up a ruckus.

After all - "For the most part we have a good Fire Department" :-)

Firecapt- you said it right. The odds were against us from the get go! IMO we did our best and went above and beyond. I'm sure in the long run the investigation that will be conducted would show that . A delay in calling the FD? Maybe- the press is ripping us apart and we who were there all have deep sadness for the family involved. May they all RIP!

I think that sums up what we, the public safety community, shoudl be focusing on - supporting these poor bastards that, yes, run way understaffed, who got bit. It was just a matter of time, and I bet every one of them knew it. And i can guaran-damn-tee that every member on that scene busted their asses and gave their all. Anyone says otherwise, politician, civillian, etc...aint worth the sweat on the balls of the guys on scene.
It's not just the Vern either...we all know the other jobs this could happen at...any day.

I love it.

I love it.

Thanks Dan, stop up Saturday morning if you're available, we're doing some training with Firematic starting at 9am

There is enough waste of taxpayer resources in my own district to be worried about someone 100 miles away.