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Guy at work got results today, so I guess they are emailing people.

I think it is because it is a different bargaining unit.  I would imagine the contacts are 2 different to make a merger as easy as say: Metro North PD, LIRR PD and Staten Island Railway PD of years ago.

I think it is the "LIVE" that is new here.

Is there an acceptable level, if a breath or two of it is lethal then I would tend to think "no" and we should focus more on respiratory protection. Perhaps a breath and not treating it is lethal? I do recall from FFI some toxin that if a breath was taken in it was lethal in a matter of seconds, is this the same toxin?

Oh Clairol, about 800,000 Square Feet of fun. Worked there for about 6 years, Days, eves, and mids. In addition to NBC Studios they have Chelsea Piers and a charter school on the property. Keep meaning to go back, apparently it is very different, but conducive to what they are doing.

Also, interesting to note, the state has changed the course several times. Not that the material has changed, just that the name of the course and a few points of minutia. Our members who are exterior attend classes/drills in traffic control, hazmat operations, crime/accident scene preservation, CPR/AED, bloodborne pathongens among others. Interior members attend a minimum of FF1.

I agree that everyone could use more training. I know of other systems where volunteer fire fighters go through the exact same training as the career firefighters (ie. FFI/FFII/Survival/HAZMAT/EVOC A/O/EVOC Pump Ops) at a minimum

I personally think another issue for the fire police specifically is that no one seems to want them.

The fire departments usually see them as a place to put firefighters who are too old/unfit/unsafe to do interior firefighting and the police are sometimes afraid of fire police for economic reasons "The town board is going to lay half of us off and replace us with volunteers"

Wow ... Between Cos Cob and Glenville Fire Police we had 2 inside smoke conditions, 3 car accidents, a car fire and about 8 other calls so far today. None of these calls were deserving of an incident alert here, but had we been needed we could have provided several vehicles with well trained personnel and we did on a few of these runs. While it appears some of our duties differ from NY fire police, our reception by the emergency services community seems much warmer here than I would have thought they are in New York. We have NY state as our neighbors on 3 sides.

We take an annual physical (same as interior for our salvage crew), attend a wide variety of drills and classroom lectures. The average age of our 26 service members is about 25 by my rough count.

As for police layoffs, I am the child of a retired police officer so I would not be in favor of police layoffs. In addition, we work with the police union on several charitable projects.

We are in fact called upon by departments to give presentations regarding our operations.

Sorry for the rant by this was quite disturbing for both me and some of our guys.

Grumpyff ... I hear you loud and clear. I went with a group of armed feds escorting an internation law enforecement official. We left when it was suggested we hide firearms in our vehicles. We complained to management. Apparently they werent as happy to see our kind 10years later.

Wow, lots of questions to be researched. Going back about 20 years into history, there have been several designations for the various pieces housed at Central. Engines 1,8 (formerly 22 in Cos Cob),11,12, and now 31 come to mind. Ladders 1 and 10 (Seagrave that moved to Cos Cob while ALF was inservice as Ladder 5 in Sound Beach) as well as Platform 1 and Tower 1. Hazmat 1, Squad 1, Patrol 1, and various staff and fire marshal vehicles along with Car 5, now Car 3 for the shift LT now Deputy Chief. So now in addition to completely confusing everyone, I have managed to steer this thread way off course. Back on target: the guys have either started the academy or will do so soon! Best of luck and we will see you in a few months on the floor!

Hub, I caught another update: Round Hill Patrol-6 (1964 Dodge Powerwagon?) ... went out of service when the new Squad-6 joined the fleet. I think the old Engine 62 (Engine 63) is still around as well.

I think the Rescue 3 refered to above is the Prime Mover for the Decon trailer, hazmat, etc.

Before any other updates just wanted to say I have known Jeff since ... a long time, like middle school. Great guy, took his FFI and FFII with my brother Brian at Fairfield Regional.

Just a few updates that I noticed: Central is still combo, Amogerone does run Squad-1 (fresh air truck) and it has been between Central and Byram fire stations over the last few years. Vol. Hose and Chem. is also still active, but they don't have there own truck, most of the time they ride out with Cos Cob rigs. Greenwich Fire Police is the inactive company. Most of their calls are split between Cos Cob Fire Police Patrol and Glenville Fire Police. They had a truck, Patrol-1, but it was sold when their last members went inactive.

As for Cos Cob: I noticed Marine 2, probably referencing the Fire Company's Boat, but we also have a boat but for use in much smaller bodies of water. Having said that, I am looking for the pictures of the Patrol's boat out at Island beach! The new Tanker should be in service soon too. Perhaps HubEng21 has those details.

Agreed, explorer programs are great! Get as much training in as possible so that when the big birthday comes they are knowledgeable about many of the topics that are brought up in FF I and other courses. Our explorer program was started about a year and a half ago and has already "graduated" 2 new members.

From what I heard there was no Fd/pd pissing match ... news last night reported oem was first on scene! From the news footage I saw things went about a smoothly as can be in a situation like that.

Is that esu ladder possibly a doctored up picture of an fdmv rig?

Being as they were covering the village and the town shouldn't people from both be encouraged to participate?

I seem to think there is more to this story. I remember 9-12 month delivery times. What is the delivery time now? I'm sure most of these workers would have liked to have made some sacrifices rather than get a layoff notice. Our big truck is a Pierce and it is a huge improvement over the 'ford' we used to have. By the way the small truck is a Ford and we were able to build it at a significant cost savings.

I believe the report said about 900 calls with over 1/3 being e.m.s.

A few questions:

Do taxpayers pay for any of it or is it port fees and tolls?

Are they not required to stop at an accident if driving by in a marked vehicle in NY or NJ? I know in CT the MTA cops sometimes arrive at I-95 calls and hold the scene until CSP arrives.

Any PAPD guys on here?

We have about 2/3rds of our members who joined as fire police/support/exterior/etc. members. The other 8 or so of us have FF1 minimum to go into a building for salvage during fires. At times we are used by law enforcement agencies to assist with traffic, lighting, etc.

Just spoke with 2582. He pulled up the 60 Control CAD times for trucks signing on. He dictated the times for me to post here. Apparently this is the farthest point out in the Northeast part of their district and they provided 6 members on the first two trucks.

Time of alarm - 16:14

Engine 158 responding - 16:19

Tanker 7 responding - 16:19

Request for additional tanker (Tanker 3) - 16:20

Tanker 3 dispatched - 16:21

Tanker 3 responding - 16:27

Engine 158 on scene - 16:28

Request for 3rd due Tanker (Tanker 9) - 16:29

Tanker 7 on scene - 16:33

Tanker 3 on scene 16:38

Main body of fire K/D, 1 line stretched, K/D with two cans - 16:38

Under control - 16:44

Return Tanker 9 and EMS - 16:47

Wasn't aware of this call until I read the IA. From what I do know about Banksville, they do require 2 per truck to respond. That doesn't mean they could have had more on Engine 157. The tanker is limited to 2 people, the Engine seats six I believe. Also with regards to the times, the radio coverage is fair to poor at best at least for contact with the Greenwich dispatchers. It may be, they were just waiting to come into radio range before announcing that they would be unavailable due to a run on the NY side. The same might be true about contact with 60 Control, not sure.

Obviously, I will have to weigh in on this topic. I can truly say that these guys are the real deal. They have saved many lives, that's human beings, trapped in burning buildings during the course of their duties. What are the insurance savings there? These guys made the difference between "out of business" and "closed for the rest of the day".

The insurance industry mentioned that they only save 1.5 million bucks a year, whats a cool million and a half between friends? I bet if they had the 10 patrol wagons and 10 utility trucks of day gone by they would be in great shape to triple the savings or better. NYC has a lot of ground to cover (and I complained about 15 calls the other day)!

Mention was made of Mr. Roma in the article. I have met him personally and he is a great guy. I've never met one of these guys that didn't do a fantastic job as a Patrolman and/or Patrol Officer.

Enough ranting for now. I have to get ready for drill tonight, after all Cos Cob is possibly the busiest fire patrol in the USA at the moment.

Cos Cob responded to a house fire (minor with little extension) and several trees and wires down. Still about 1,000 people without powerin Greenwich. Trees down everywhere. Worst hit was central Greenwich. As Ollie Williams would say. It's rainin' sideways!

Yes they did mean MTA PD, they put in a correction the following day.

I have a buddy that works in the Superior Court section of the USMS in D.C. and my father is a retired Marshal under George HW Bush. I've seen a lot of the "toys"! Sounds like you guys had a good time. Can't wait for the pictures!