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Kudos to the Bloomberg Administration for taking a stance to the Vulcans. At least he won't back down to them like others. Those Societies have single handidly destroyed what was once a prestigious Job. Oh that's right, they're nothing more then a Fraternal Organization, I forgot. "F" them and the horse they rode in on!

Kudos to the Bloomberg Administration for taking a stance to the Vulcans. At least he won't back down to them like others. Those Societies have single handidly destroyed what was once a prestigious Job. Oh that's right, they're nothing more then a Fraternal Organization, I forgot. "F" them and the horse they rode in on!

Barry not for nothing but many guys out there do the Job cause their heart is into it and actually enjoy it not so much for the $$$$$, although it is nice to to be fairly compensated for it.

What I don't understand is most the surrounding Municipalities will only hire off a residency list but as soon as a person is off Probation or even while still on in some cases, they are allowed to move elsewhere. Maybe it's time for NY Depts. to adopt the same policies as many Connecticut Depts. and have one list. Who gives a rats a** where somebody lives, i want the best person for the job! Would you rather have an individual who was number one on an "out of town" list backing you up or some guy that got a final grade of a 70% and was 100 on the "in town" list? Like I said not too many individuals even reside anymore in the Towns, Villages or Cities where they work. It's not like years ago and some places have a very scarce legitamate picking pool to even choose from. There's many people who just don't want the Job, no matter how much you beg them to apply form it.

Rescue Co.? A Rescue that's in service 24/7/365 with at least 3 men and an Officer that are well trained in Special OPS. The only Depts. in Westchester that provide this is White Plains and Yonkers. However I wouldn't take a rig out of service to keep a Rescue in service which I believe WPFD has done. To me that makes no sense. While on this topic those Depts. that due have 4 man Rescue Cos. which are in service everyday are the guys on it required to mutual out with only other Rescue members assigned to it or can any Tom, Dick and Harry jump on board for the ride and does the same apply for an OT member needed to be assigned to it?

Standards, what are Standards? If nobody cares about having Standards to get on the Job how can you have dress code standards. You get what you pay for, why is it such a surprise to everyone. I know one thing if the Mayor of the Vern ever heard the numerous comments about Chief "Bluetoooth" even from ordinary citizens, I'm sure he'd probably be second guessing his choice for Chief.

That's the trend of the Job Brother let's do more with less. Always loved that mentality of having do take on more things like EMS for the so called "Productiviy" argument. Then we turn around and they lay guys off and put rigs out of service. That makes sense!

That's the trend of the Job Brother let's do more with less. Always loved that mentality of having do take on more things like EMS for the so called "Productiviy" argument. Then we turn around and they lay guys off and put rigs out of service. That makes sense!

Excellent post Lt.! Maybe it'll inspire some guys both old and new and remind them of what the Job is all about or what it should be about!

After these misguided individuals finish with OWS maybe they should go and protest outside all of the Universities and Colleges who charge astronomical tuitions to attend putting individuals in debt up to their a** before they even graduate and find a job. There's something nobody has any control over and won't say s*** about.

I hate to say it but let's be real fellows we are many times our own worst enemy. All you ever hear during these times and when negotiating a contract with these City officials is the number of guys who are out on 207a. It's not so much the members fault I guess because it was the Conference of Mayors who agreed on this disability package and has made it so easy to obtain, so why not try and get out for a hangnail. Maybe the City should start hiring Private Investigators to follow up on these cases like other States do and if 207a members are found of cheating the system incarcerate the bums and there you'll have the $$$$$ to prevent such layoffs. Maybe it's also time for all members of all the Locals to bring back the ole "peer pressure" and embarass some of the phonies out there from even filing. If your legitamately hurt then fine you deserve it but if your caught scamming you deserve what you get. I thought our Job was a "Brotherhood". BTW how many guys does NRFD have out on 207a?

I hate to say it but let's be real fellows we are many times our own worst enemy. All you ever hear during these times and when negotiating a contract with these City officials is the number of guys who are out on 207a. It's not so much the members fault I guess because it was the Conference of Mayors who agreed on this disability package and has made it so easy to obtain, so why not try and get out for a hangnail. Maybe the City should start hiring Private Investigators to follow up on these cases like other States do and if 207a members are found of cheating the system incarcerate the bums and there you'll have the $$$$$ to prevent such layoffs. Maybe it's also time for all members of all the Locals to bring back the ole "peer pressure" and embarass some of the phonies out there from even filing. If your legitamately hurt then fine you deserve it but if your caught scamming you deserve what you get. I thought our Job was a "Brotherhood". BTW how many guys does NRFD have out on 207a?

Yeah i said it and what's wrong with it? Maybe I'm lookin out for myself and my family cause i'm retiring and would like a little extra in my pension. What's wrong with that eveybody's doing it. It sucks guys get laid off but i'll worry about my fellow Union Brothers I work and eat with and their careers and families before an outsider. Sorry that's just the way life is. Maybe also some of these guys in other Depts. have real flesh and blood brothers or cousins who have a chance of gettin on the Job but won't because of trasnsfers, ever think about that? How would you feel about FDNY taking transfers and not hiring you after you broke your a** taking and meeting all the steps to get on a Job you've always wanted to do. Don't critisize me for lookin after my own well being and that of my friends i work with!

After these misguided individuals finish with OWS maybe they should go and protest outside all of the Universities and Colleges who charge astronomical tuitions to attend putting individuals in debt up to their a** before they even graduate and find a job. There's something nobody has any control over and won't say s*** about.

After these misguided individuals finish with OWS maybe they should go and protest outside all of the Universities and Colleges who charge astronomical tuitions to attend putting individuals in debt up to their a** before they even graduate and find a job. There's something nobody has any control over and won't say s*** about.

After these misguided individuals finish with OWS maybe they should go and protest outside all of the Universities and Colleges who charge astronomical tuitions to attend putting individuals in debt up to their a** before they even graduate and find a job. There's something nobody has any control over and won't say s*** about.

After these misguided individuals finish with OWS maybe they should go and protest outside all of the Universities and Colleges who charge astronomical tuitions to attend putting individuals in debt up to their a** before they even graduate and find a job. There's something nobody has any control over and won't say s*** about.

After these misguided individuals finish with OWS maybe they should go and protest outside all of the Universities and Colleges who charge astronomical tuitions to attend putting individuals in debt up to their a** before they even graduate and find a job. There's something nobody has any control over and won't say s*** about.

After these misguided individuals finish with OWS maybe they should go and protest outside all of the Universities and Colleges who charge astronomical tuitions to attend putting individuals in debt up to their a** before they even graduate and find a job. There's something nobody has any control over and won't say s*** about.

I don't think it's so much the cause, it's the caliber of people and their methods of protesting. Their actions are hurting many small businesses and many of them want to end Capitalism and want entitlements aka Socialism. These are the hypocrites who are walkin around with all new ipods and asking for a moment of silence for Steve Jobs. It's just away for some of them to gain notoriety and 10 seconds of fame. Have you seen some of the interviews? Do you feel it's right for the Government to pay for ones College Education. This is the message many of these morons are trying to get out. No I don't feel it's right for CEOS and other Corporation Executives to get bonuses why their stockolders are struggling but is it any different then many Union Executive Board memebers using your Union dues to live the life of luxury and embezzling millions of dollars in union dues. Greed is a problem for many not just in Big Business. IMO I feel most of these protesters are ignorant and hypocritical and have just too much time on their hands. There's work out there you just have to be patient and look for it.

LOL! Exactly my thoughts. It's nothing but another Woodstock without the music. Most of these imbosols don't even know why they're there!

I don't think it's so much the cause, it's the caliber of people and their methods of protesting. Their actions are hurting many small businesses and many of them want to end Capitalism and want entitlements aka Socialism. These are the hypocrites who are walkin around with all new ipods and asking for a moment of silence for Steve Jobs. It's just away for some of them to gain notoriety and 10 seconds of fame. Have you seen some of the interviews? Do you feel it's right for the Government to pay for ones College Education. This is the message many of these morons are trying to get out. No I don't feel it's right for CEOS and other Corporation Executives to get bonuses why their stockolders are struggling but is it any different then many Union Executive Board memebers using your Union dues to live the life of luxury and embezzling millions of dollars in union dues. Greed is a problem for many not just in Big Business. IMO I feel most of these protesters are ignorant and hypocritical and have just too much time on their hands. There's work out there you just have to be patient and look for it.

I don't think it's so much the cause, it's the caliber of people and their methods of protesting. Their actions are hurting many small businesses and many of them want to end Capitalism and want entitlements aka Socialism. These are the hypocrites who are walkin around with all new ipods and asking for a moment of silence for Steve Jobs. It's just away for some of them to gain notoriety and 10 seconds of fame. Have you seen some of the interviews? Do you feel it's right for the Government to pay for ones College Education. This is the message many of these morons are trying to get out. No I don't feel it's right for CEOS and other Corporation Executives to get bonuses why their stockolders are struggling but is it any different then many Union Executive Board memebers using your Union dues to live the life of luxury and embezzling millions of dollars in union dues. Greed is a problem for many not just in Big Business. IMO I feel most of these protesters are ignorant and hypocritical and have just too much time on their hands. There's work out there you just have to be patient and look for it.

I don't think it's so much the cause, it's the caliber of people and their methods of protesting. Their actions are hurting many small businesses and many of them want to end Capitalism and want entitlements aka Socialism. These are the hypocrites who are walkin around with all new ipods and asking for a moment of silence for Steve Jobs. It's just away for some of them to gain notoriety and 10 seconds of fame. Have you seen some of the interviews? Do you feel it's right for the Government to pay for ones College Education. This is the message many of these morons are trying to get out. No I don't feel it's right for CEOS and other Corporation Executives to get bonuses why their stockolders are struggling but is it any different then many Union Executive Board memebers using your Union dues to live the life of luxury and embezzling millions of dollars in union dues. Greed is a problem for many not just in Big Business. IMO I feel most of these protesters are ignorant and hypocritical and have just too much time on their hands. There's work out there you just have to be patient and look for it.

I hate to say it but let's be real fellows we are many times our own worst enemy. All you ever hear during these times and when negotiating a contract with these City officials is the number of guys who are out on 207a. It's not so much the members fault I guess because it was the Conference of Mayors who agreed on this disability package and has made it so easy to obtain, so why not try and get out for a hangnail. Maybe the City should start hiring Private Investigators to follow up on these cases like other States do and if 207a members are found of cheating the system incarcerate the bums and there you'll have the $$$$$ to prevent such layoffs. Maybe it's also time for all members of all the Locals to bring back the ole "peer pressure" and embarass some of the phonies out there from even filing. If your legitamately hurt then fine you deserve it but if your caught scamming you deserve what you get. I thought our Job was a "Brotherhood". BTW how many guys does NRFD have out on 207a?