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With due respect to the staff,
Before the topic was locked, there was some measure of displeasure with the post from the site's founder regarding one-liners and inflammatory comments, with a poster saying the site has lost it's balls and the members need thicker skin.
It's not a matter of the site "losing it's balls" or members who need "thicker skin", it's about keeping the site educational, a positive environment, and most of all, PROFESSIONAL. Sometimes we need to remember that "we" (emergency service members) are not the only ones who read the content contained in these forums. I'm sure there are enthusiasts, members of local government, members of the media, and so on who read the content contained in these forums. While it's all good to banter amongst each other as if we were in the firehouse, precinct, quarters, or whatever you would like to call it, we still have to maintain some level of decorum and professionalism just as if we were present in a public place, since this board is easily viewed by members of the general public, and more importantly the media. Case in point;
The NYPD Rant for those who's haven't read it is full of so much garbage since there is little to no moderation, it's not one bit enjoyable to read from an educational standpoint. If anyone outside the NYPD read the material in that forum, the useless bantering of a few sets a bad precedence and honestly depicts the members of the NYPD in a very negative light. The media reported today on a thread contained in the NYPD Rant website about posters who posted personal attacks against an NYPD member. As a civilian reading that article, what kind of opinion do you think the "average Joe" will have of the Rant and the members of the NYPD?
So in order to keep this site from becoming another "rant style" website, there needs to be a level of moderation that suits the wishes of the site's founder, since it is ultimately his call on what is and what is not permitted. If any of us don't like it, we are all free to start up our own site where anything goes and all the members can brag over who has the biggest balls. Personally, I'll stick with the site that's an educational portal as well as promotes and exhibits the professionalism of emergency service providers.

As per the ops guide we need to carry our APR's with us at all times, even in the crew compartment. The reasoning is that if we respond to any sort of explosion ( bus, train, building, etc) we would have our APRS in our reach prior to having to get out and breathe what potentially could be a CBRN attack. While you may think our turnout gear is " ridiculous " or " self serving" remember that NYC is the number one terrorist target in the WORLD, and every borough is different then another. I have had glass from a fire fall on me from 3 blocks away before, and I was happy I was wearing my gear at the time.

Fire based is absolutely not the best way to go. A dedicated 3rd service EMS is the ideal way to go. However it is more expensive to implement and maintain such a service. Once municipalities start looking at EMS as more than just a ride to the hospital and use it as an integrated part of their healthcare system, benefits emerge that cannot be accomplished with an agency trying to also serve as police or firefighters. In other countries and in a growing number of communities here EMS is used as an outreach to reduce ER visits, able to mitigate minor illness and injury on scene rather than transporting, and provide local services like education and vaccination.
The IAFF is absolutely only pushing EMS because it keeps their members busy and helps to protect them from budget cuts. If cities were burning like they did 30 years ago there is no way this would be anywhere near their agenda. Why would they seek to add more work to an already busy workforce? EMS is a perfect fit as fire companies are already distributed throughout the community and already somewhat familiar with EMS due to the nature of the job. This is not to say that fire based systems don't work. That's just flat out stupid as they are currently performing very well through out the country. But to suggest the IAFF began aggressively pursuing EMS for anything other than self preservation is naive.

Snapped this while in the vac of the recently delivered 69B3. It's a 2011 GMC/ Lifeline Thanks to CG206 for the second picture

Snapped this while in the vac of the recently delivered 69B3. It's a 2011 GMC/ Lifeline Thanks to CG206 for the second picture

Snapped this while in the vac of the recently delivered 69B3. It's a 2011 GMC/ Lifeline Thanks to CG206 for the second picture

Snapped this while in the vac of the recently delivered 69B3. It's a 2011 GMC/ Lifeline Thanks to CG206 for the second picture

It is with deep regret that we announce the passing of
Christopher "Ferret" Natoli

April 2, 1972 - September 27, 2011
FDNY Instructor/ Paramedic
Wantagh-Levittown Volunteer Ambulance Corps Chief
"His soul lives on in his two sons and beloved wife. His spirits shared amongst all those he has befriended, acquainted, who had awoken him in the dark of night to treat, brought into this world, gifted a second life to & shared his passion with so they could follow in his steps."

FUNERAL SERVICE DETAILS ARE AS FOLLOWS-
Wake:
Saturday, October 1st
Sunday October 2nd
1400-1600, 1900-2200 (Both nights)
Location- Thomas F. Dalton Funeral Homes, 2786 Hempstead Tpke, Levittown
Service:
Monday, October 2nd
1130
Location- St. Bernard's Church, Hempstead Tpke J/W/O Center Ln (Next to Miller's Ale House)

Interment at St. Charles Cemetery
2015 Wellwood Ave
Farmingdale, NY 11735
(main entrance is off Conklin Ave)

It is with deep regret that we announce the passing of
Christopher "Ferret" Natoli

April 2, 1972 - September 27, 2011
FDNY Instructor/ Paramedic
Wantagh-Levittown Volunteer Ambulance Corps Chief
"His soul lives on in his two sons and beloved wife. His spirits shared amongst all those he has befriended, acquainted, who had awoken him in the dark of night to treat, brought into this world, gifted a second life to & shared his passion with so they could follow in his steps."

FUNERAL SERVICE DETAILS ARE AS FOLLOWS-
Wake:
Saturday, October 1st
Sunday October 2nd
1400-1600, 1900-2200 (Both nights)
Location- Thomas F. Dalton Funeral Homes, 2786 Hempstead Tpke, Levittown
Service:
Monday, October 2nd
1130
Location- St. Bernard's Church, Hempstead Tpke J/W/O Center Ln (Next to Miller's Ale House)

Interment at St. Charles Cemetery
2015 Wellwood Ave
Farmingdale, NY 11735
(main entrance is off Conklin Ave)

Snapped this while in the vac of the recently delivered 69B3. It's a 2011 GMC/ Lifeline Thanks to CG206 for the second picture

sound like me whenever I have to direct traffic

http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcas/html/employment/monthlyexamschedule.shtml
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcas/downloads/pdf/noes/201202004000.pdf
If you missed it last year, or just recently became an EMT this is your opportunity to file. I'm pretty sure we only hire off the list now, not the phone call.

I believe this is the wrong approach; it throws the good out with the bad.
This is a first responder forum, not a knitting circle; we're all type A personalities, we can handle a little conflict and rough exchanges - here or in the firehouse/precinct/whatever.
If the behaviour of certain posters crosses the line, first warn, then delete the posts and ban the posters - long enough to cool off, or permanently if merited. That's the way I would handle it.
This isn't criticism; I don't spent the time & effort Seth & the moderators do in running things around here. Just my opinion.
Mike

So by some peoples thinking here every Muslim is part of Al-Qaeda, so then by that reason every Italian is in the Mafia; every Irish person is a drunk; every Mexican is a border jumper.

If that is the train of thought some of you have? I find that very embarrassing that people in 2011 think this way. Yes I understand their beliefs and there way of life, and I am sure there are many that follow the religion but do not follow Sharia law. How many of you are Roman Catholic and how many of you follow the Ten Commandments.

This is a ridiculous blanket statement, and this along with comparing the Muslim brotherhood to the vast majority of Muslims shows that you have only a vague and/or slanted understanding of Islam.
Look, I agree that the rules are the rules and that no one, regardless of their religious practices, should be exempt from rules that are designed simply to keep them safe. Its obvious that head coverings of the kind at issue here would be dangerous on a number of rides in the park as they could become caught in tracks, etc. And I agree that the event organizers, having been informed of these rules, didn't do a very good job of communicating this to event goers ahead of time. You'll get no argument from me that this is largely to blame for this incident occurring in the first place. But I also know from accounts of people who were there (and no one has mentioned this possibility so far) that the park rangers involved in the initial altercation didn't do a very good job of diffusing the situation. It's mentioned in one of the articles cited here that they pushed some of the women who confronted them which, unless they truly felt threatened (and come on, seriously?), just seems like a really bad idea. Putting your hands on a woman in a confrontational way in front of her husband or any male relative would surely escalate any situation regardless of the religious persuasions of those involved. Oh and by the way, those rangers are totally fine.
Long and short? I'm saying that there's blame to be placed pretty equally on both sides of this situation. And chalking this up as some kind of anti-American Islamic riot or an attempt to impose Sharia law in the US is just completely absurd. It was the unfortunate result of poor planning and poor communication, nothing more. This could have happened with a Jewish group, a Sikh group, or anyone else who's religious beliefs happened to conflict in any way with park rules. Making this out to be the fault of Muslim "animals" trying to take over our country as many of you have just makes you sound like close-minded buffoons. Sorry, but it's the truth. Should we blindly adopt some of their more out-dated (and little-followed) views as our own without questioning them? Absolutely not. But should we, by the same token, write off all their beliefs as "savage" and demand that they give them up without first questioning that logic? Absolutely not. A little cultural sensitivity isn't the same as being stupidly "PC" and a little worldly education goes a long way in averting this kind of incident.
Bring on the hate, I know it's coming.

It was indeed "Our Ed"! I was Acting Lieutenant on the first due Company. We pulled up to a 2.5 story wdfrm SFD with nothing showing & about 4-6 people standing on the sidewalk acting like they were waiting for the bus. As I made my way to the front door with my Vent & Open-Up guys we were stunned to see Ed, in uniform, carrying a naked (or near naked) body out the front door, telling us as we passed, "The fire's in the attic!" Kudos to Senor Burke!

Lets take the passion out of this for a minute.
At best the City handled this latest development poorly. What did the NJ Daily News quote as the number for responders to the WTC....roughly 91,000. Even if you halfed that number that's 45,000 people. There is no way the area around the WTC could currently handle 45,000 people and have it not be a logistical nightmare. I was at the WTC on 9/11 and in the two weeks following, had collegues that died and rarely discuss or mention it. I have never had a desire to feel I needed to be there every 9/11 and I don't have a burning desire to be there this September 11. Hopefully when the Memorial opens to will provide a suitable setting for remembrance but basically the WTC area is what it is intended to be, a construction site for now. Let the date be for the family members of those killed on 9/11. With 343 FDNY, 23 NYPD, and 37 PANYNJPD and those from the other public safety agencies, those families should be the representatives of the uniformed services. I can go to the WTC any time of th day or night to make my peace.

Full Article
All I am going to say is that these troopers deserve every bit of it!

At a recent parade, I sat directly opposite a NYSP Trooper on a traffic post.
EACH and EVERY time, the stars and stripes passed by, he saluted with the most crisp salute I have ever seen. Many of the bystanders commented on it as well...all were impressed by his actions.
Well Done Trooper, remain safe.

He's an AMERICAN who has pride in his County, his Uniform and Himself! That's it!
Military, Paramilitary or Draft Dodger - who cares?
I agree send a letter to his superiors.

Okay so if under 21 is too young to drive than what's too old ? You're gonna tell me that the guy who's 75 and been driving for 40 years is still fit to drive your first due piece of apparatus to a working fire. And don't tell me it doesn't happen because I know of a few departments where it does.

Democrats support unions republicans do not, see Wisconsin. It is funny that the majority of emergency service people lean to the republican side, but their party does not support them.

Rayrider,
Law states to move over if safe to do so - otherwise, SLOW DOWN and don't go blasting on by the emergency vehicle. Really, it's not rocket science.

it's real, we haven't gotten any on the street yet, oh and it has two blue lights in the back. it also has the extended cab which you can't really see to well since the pic is small.

And when they become a chief or IC for that matter they too will have to follow the law and comply with the respiratory standard (2in 2out).