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  1. Posted

    This was just a question that I have been wondering about for some time now. It seems that after 9/11 everyone is focusing on preparing for "the big one", as well they should but it just seems backwards to me when:

    An ambulance corps has enough MCI equipment to treat 100+ patients, but can't get out the door for an elderly fall victim

    A fire department has all of the latest and greatest HAZMAT and WMD gear, but needs to call massive amounts of mutual aid for a room and contents fire

    A police department has plenty of tactical and active shooter training, but needs to call the state police or sheriff's office to handle a past burg or larceny

    If only there were more people like you who saw these things for what they are, and "calls /em like he sees 'em"...

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    I think it should go one further, and be ANY firematic officer (or line officer of any similar organization, PD, FD, EMS). There are so many people these days that get squashed by their organization for posting on websites such as this, then there are some where the upper echelon/brass posts something that if it was one of their members, would most likely bring retaliatory action.

    Final thought, all members should uphold such a behavior, because, what makes any one single person better than anyone else?

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  11. Posted

    Is it negligence on the dispatcher's part or a problem with established policy or both? We send police all over the place for 911 hangup calls, just to make sure the situation is safe, even if the callback produces a valid reply. We send fire and EMS departments to automatic alarms, even if the callback confirms an accidental or false activation. Why on earth would we not send the police to someone requesting the police? Maybe in the initial stages this may have been triaged below the GSWs and stabbings (although this would have been a mistake IMO) and the incident still would not have been avoided, but it should have at least been put in the system. Telling someone help is not on the way is deplorable for any system to allow.

    I can tell you if that was me on that transcript, saying what that 911 Operator did, I would have been pulled off the floor as soon as the call was concluded, if not sooner!!

    Deplorable!!!!!!!!!!!

    And it sounds like the 911 Operator was being a bit of an as.... errr jerkoff....

  14. Posted

    I saw them on the Bronx River Parkway when I was headed to the Triborough to The Airport don't think they were Reponding though just riding Northbound on the BRP

    & this Fire Patrol you speak of could it be this ? http://www.facebook.com/pages/Independence-Volunteer-Fire-Co-4-Bronx-Volunteer-Fire-Patrol/246739438669464\ I've seen these guys all around Soundview with hats and I saw like 4 of them in A Black ford Pickup truck # teens and 1 large man and they had t-shirts on that said Independence Volunteer Fire Co. #4

    http://www.nassaufdrant.com/forum/bronx-volunteer-fire-patrol-13164.html

  15. Posted

    Statement from the Fairview IAFF Local 2623 Facebook Page

    An early morning fire on Saturday in the Fairview section of the Town of Poughkeepsie claimed the lives of 3 young adults. The four on duty staff (3 firefighters and 1 officer) of the Fairview Fire District responded to a Marist College off campus community house at 112 Fairview Avenue for a working structure fire at 136 am. The crew responded with the normal structure fire assignment of an engine and ladder truck, as well as an additional engine from the City of Poughkeepsie Fire Dept. with another 3 firefighters on pre-arranged mutual aid to the scene. Upon arrival Fairview firefighters found a 2 1/2 story wood frame structure with heavy fire showing from the rear side of the structure and the report of people trapped. Firefighters quickly requested a second alarm which brought to the scene all remaining apparatus, as well as call back of off duty Fairview personnel, any additional volunteers and mutual aid assistance from the Arlington Fire District with their Rescue Truck and FAST team as well as Mobile Life Support EMS with a ALS ambulance to the scene and then Roosevelt Fire District stood by with an engine in Fairview fire station.

    With an initial report of several victims trapped, firefighters on scene attempted to make an aggressive interior attack on the fire, but were pushed back by the extreme heat and flames. As additional help arrived they placed several ground ladders up to the building, then firefighters also had to protect an exposure on the left side of the fire building as fire was rapidly growing and melting siding and cracking windows in that exposure building. At the height of the fire the structure had flames coming from the majority of windows on all floors and the four sides, with firefighters and sucessive arriving crews putting several handlines, a portable deck gun and even a ladder pipe were placed in service to attack this fire. There was also several cars in the rear parking area of the structure that were on fire or in danger of catching fire, 2 were totally consumed fire, 1 partially consumed by fire and 3 others charred by flame and heat.

    The fire was brought under control in about 90 miunutes, then firefighters began the effort of searching for the victims and put out areas of little fire remaining. There were 4 survivors who all suffered minor injuries in the fire, which claimed the lives of 3 others. Over the next few hours the 3 deceased victims were while continued overhaul, search, and fire investigation was being conducted. The fire has been labeled undetermined at this time by investigators. Fairview firefighters and all other assisting units cleared the scene around 5pm, almost 15 hours later, some of which didn't get much rest from working this call.

    The members of IAFF Local #2623 would like to give thanks to the following organizations for assisting on scene or on stand-by; City of Poughkeepsie Fire Department firefighters (IAFF Local #596), Arlington Fire District firefighters (IAFF Local #2393), Roosevelt Fire District, Hyde Park Fire Department, Mobile Life Support EMS, Town of Poughkeepsie Police, Dutchess County Sheriffs Office, Dutchess County Department of Emergency Response Fire Investigation Division, Coordinators and the Dispatching Staff, City of Poughkeepsie Police (for use of their Command Vehicle by Fire Investigators), Town of Poughkeepsie Building Department, Town of Poughkeepsie Highway Department, Marist College, New York State Dept. of Homeland Security & Emergency Services Office of Fire Prevention and Control, and Dutchess County Executive Marc Molinaro & his Office, and lastly the Fairview Fire Co. Ladies Auxilary and the Palace Diner for refreshments & coffee. We also would like to thank the multiple media outlets that have been covering this tragic fire at this college off campus house.

    In conclusion, we would like to express our heartfelt sympathy and condolences to the entire Marist College community and the families of those who lost their lives in this tragic fire.

    Finally we would like to offer to anyone that has questions about fire safety to contact us so we may further prevent these events from happening anywhere again.

  16. Posted

    Did the house have working smoke detectors? Was it up to standards? A few years ago my son and his room mates were looking for off campus housing at Marist. I took one look at the structure and found it a death trap in waiting. Needless to say they did not move in. Get the facts let's not Monday morning quarterback. A sad day for Marist and the brothers at FFD.

    http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/article/20120122/NEWS01/301220031/FAIRVIEW-FIRE-VICTIMS-IDENTITIES-COME-LIGHT-SEE-NEW-VIDEO?odyssey=mod|breaking|text|PoughkeepsieJournal.com

    Maeder said a preliminary investigation by the Dutchess County Cause and Origin Team had determined the fire probably started in the rear of the first floor, but the cause was still under investigation.

    The chief said he could hear loud sounds coming from smoke alarms in the house when he arrived.

  18. Posted

    That certainly may be the case. But I personally won't vilify these bystanders for doing what they thought was right. They followed their instincts and a certain degree of human nature and attempted to help those in need, when no others could. I'm willing to bet that good Samaritans, over time, have done far, far more good than harm.

    Agreed INIT. I am not trying to crucify these people, but lets be honest, as I said before, do you think John Q Public would run into an active hostage situation or an armed bank robbery and try and help out? Chances are not. People don't view fire the same way.

    Ignorance/lack of knowledge is a dangerous thing, just as fire is.

    People who THINK they have knowledge is probably even more dangerous.

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  19. Posted

    After calling 911, she said her boyfriend and their two friends assisted the female and male with breaking down a side door to help people they believed to be trapped inside. However, there was a burst of flames in the rear side of the home and they had to move away.

    I wonder if those "good samaritans" who broke down a door helped seal the fate. Immediately after breaking down a door, there was a "burst of flames in the rear side of the home and they had to move away"... Hmmmmmm... Sounds like an introduction of fresh air....

    Without the proper training and equipment, its just asinie. We all know what improperly timed ventilation does...

    That's why these things should be left to the professionals... Remember the other year when a "good samaritan" broke out all the windows to a house where a woman was trapped (East Dorsey Ln in Fairview) and she died?? Sound familiar???

    No good deed goes unpunished....

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  21. Posted

    Our rescue truck has unpainted and they look terrible. Our Tower Ladder has painted and they look good.

    By the way, they go up and down as needed, use some compressed air to clean out the tracks of sand and what not, they operate fine.

    Again, looks aside, not all people have that preference. I think that some unpainted doors look just fine. I don't need paint on mine to make them open. Just one less headache later down the line.

  23. Posted

    In my opinion Orange County is trying something that no other county is doing. They will never be like Ulster or Dutchess which has the perfect plan to identify certain pieces of apparatus and even dispatches those appropriate for the call they are going out on. This new system is for the birds if you ask me.

    Haha, "perfect" is debatable. I am biased with our numbering system, but I can see the merits to other counties. Like Putnam:

    Putnam Reference Guide

    11-2-3

    1st number is department

    2nd number is unit type

    3rd number is unit designation

    Therefore, 11-2-3 is Brewster Engine 3