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  1. mfc2257 liked a post in a topic by SECTMB in If An Officer Signs On As An Apparatus   
    Isn't this just a clarification that the particular officer is responding on a specific piece of apparatus and not independently in a Dept. issued officers vehicle or POV?
  2. SECTMB liked a post in a topic by mfc2257 in Yorktown Heights FD Moves Forward With Kitchawan Station 3 Plans   
    No they can't. I don't think anyone is suggesting that they should. What has been suggested for years is a dual response by YHFD and MFC for the part of the YHFD south of the reservoir. The taxpayers should not suffer the unnecessary burden of purchasing this land, funding the construction of the building, maintenance, utilities and what eventually will lead to another apparatus purchase when there is a station from another fire district a mere foot stroll down the road. Subsequently, when a significant event occurs south of the reservoir, the aforementioned MFC substation will, based on history, be dispatched as a mutual aide company anyway. The fire district lines were drawn poorly many moons ago and frankly it makes zero sense for YHFD to have any response area south of the reservoir. The taxpayers of Yorktown Heights have rejected the construction of this station multiple times over the course of many years. The commissioners of the YHFD have, in plain sight, found a way to circumvent the will of the taxpayers by over funding other budgetary line items and then allocating those monies to the building fund as opposed to yielding to multiple rejections to referendum the taxpayers have already weighed in on. Finally, while I have no proof of it, logic would dictate that most citizens living south of the reservoir who are interested in being volunteer firefighters are most likely members of the MFC not YHFD. Therefor it would also make sense that the members of YHFD that are required to staff a full response crew for the apparatus housed in the new station will most likely respond from north of the reservoir where the lion-share of YHFD members reside. As a result, the benefit to those protected by the YHFD south of the reservoir is limited by the fact that the response of members is still coming from from north of the reservoir as it has for decades.
    While it is probably easy to think that I'm ranting because I'm a former MFC member, but I have no skin in the game as I live in Florida now, and frankly even if I still lived in the district, the construction of this station doesn't affect MFC's response one bit. MFC never responded to routine calls in YHFD's territory south of the reservoir and I don't believe that YHFD would ever enter into a dual response relationship to do so anyway. MFC has always been a mutual aid company to YHFD's district south of the reservoir and frankly the addition of a single engine company in a sparsely populated area isn't going to eliminate the need to call MFC for mutual aid on larger calls. So for MFC nothing changes. But this rant isn't about MFC its about a poor stewardship of the people's money and the fact that the YHFD commissioners have chosen to brazenly ignore and circumvent the wishes of the people who elected them in the first place. What ever happened to the "consent of the governed?"
  3. SECTMB liked a post in a topic by mfc2257 in Yorktown Heights FD Moves Forward With Kitchawan Station 3 Plans   
    No they can't. I don't think anyone is suggesting that they should. What has been suggested for years is a dual response by YHFD and MFC for the part of the YHFD south of the reservoir. The taxpayers should not suffer the unnecessary burden of purchasing this land, funding the construction of the building, maintenance, utilities and what eventually will lead to another apparatus purchase when there is a station from another fire district a mere foot stroll down the road. Subsequently, when a significant event occurs south of the reservoir, the aforementioned MFC substation will, based on history, be dispatched as a mutual aide company anyway. The fire district lines were drawn poorly many moons ago and frankly it makes zero sense for YHFD to have any response area south of the reservoir. The taxpayers of Yorktown Heights have rejected the construction of this station multiple times over the course of many years. The commissioners of the YHFD have, in plain sight, found a way to circumvent the will of the taxpayers by over funding other budgetary line items and then allocating those monies to the building fund as opposed to yielding to multiple rejections to referendum the taxpayers have already weighed in on. Finally, while I have no proof of it, logic would dictate that most citizens living south of the reservoir who are interested in being volunteer firefighters are most likely members of the MFC not YHFD. Therefor it would also make sense that the members of YHFD that are required to staff a full response crew for the apparatus housed in the new station will most likely respond from north of the reservoir where the lion-share of YHFD members reside. As a result, the benefit to those protected by the YHFD south of the reservoir is limited by the fact that the response of members is still coming from from north of the reservoir as it has for decades.
    While it is probably easy to think that I'm ranting because I'm a former MFC member, but I have no skin in the game as I live in Florida now, and frankly even if I still lived in the district, the construction of this station doesn't affect MFC's response one bit. MFC never responded to routine calls in YHFD's territory south of the reservoir and I don't believe that YHFD would ever enter into a dual response relationship to do so anyway. MFC has always been a mutual aid company to YHFD's district south of the reservoir and frankly the addition of a single engine company in a sparsely populated area isn't going to eliminate the need to call MFC for mutual aid on larger calls. So for MFC nothing changes. But this rant isn't about MFC its about a poor stewardship of the people's money and the fact that the YHFD commissioners have chosen to brazenly ignore and circumvent the wishes of the people who elected them in the first place. What ever happened to the "consent of the governed?"
  4. SECTMB liked a post in a topic by mfc2257 in Yorktown Heights FD Moves Forward With Kitchawan Station 3 Plans   
    No they can't. I don't think anyone is suggesting that they should. What has been suggested for years is a dual response by YHFD and MFC for the part of the YHFD south of the reservoir. The taxpayers should not suffer the unnecessary burden of purchasing this land, funding the construction of the building, maintenance, utilities and what eventually will lead to another apparatus purchase when there is a station from another fire district a mere foot stroll down the road. Subsequently, when a significant event occurs south of the reservoir, the aforementioned MFC substation will, based on history, be dispatched as a mutual aide company anyway. The fire district lines were drawn poorly many moons ago and frankly it makes zero sense for YHFD to have any response area south of the reservoir. The taxpayers of Yorktown Heights have rejected the construction of this station multiple times over the course of many years. The commissioners of the YHFD have, in plain sight, found a way to circumvent the will of the taxpayers by over funding other budgetary line items and then allocating those monies to the building fund as opposed to yielding to multiple rejections to referendum the taxpayers have already weighed in on. Finally, while I have no proof of it, logic would dictate that most citizens living south of the reservoir who are interested in being volunteer firefighters are most likely members of the MFC not YHFD. Therefor it would also make sense that the members of YHFD that are required to staff a full response crew for the apparatus housed in the new station will most likely respond from north of the reservoir where the lion-share of YHFD members reside. As a result, the benefit to those protected by the YHFD south of the reservoir is limited by the fact that the response of members is still coming from from north of the reservoir as it has for decades.
    While it is probably easy to think that I'm ranting because I'm a former MFC member, but I have no skin in the game as I live in Florida now, and frankly even if I still lived in the district, the construction of this station doesn't affect MFC's response one bit. MFC never responded to routine calls in YHFD's territory south of the reservoir and I don't believe that YHFD would ever enter into a dual response relationship to do so anyway. MFC has always been a mutual aid company to YHFD's district south of the reservoir and frankly the addition of a single engine company in a sparsely populated area isn't going to eliminate the need to call MFC for mutual aid on larger calls. So for MFC nothing changes. But this rant isn't about MFC its about a poor stewardship of the people's money and the fact that the YHFD commissioners have chosen to brazenly ignore and circumvent the wishes of the people who elected them in the first place. What ever happened to the "consent of the governed?"
  5. SECTMB liked a post in a topic by mfc2257 in Yorktown Heights FD Moves Forward With Kitchawan Station 3 Plans   
    No they can't. I don't think anyone is suggesting that they should. What has been suggested for years is a dual response by YHFD and MFC for the part of the YHFD south of the reservoir. The taxpayers should not suffer the unnecessary burden of purchasing this land, funding the construction of the building, maintenance, utilities and what eventually will lead to another apparatus purchase when there is a station from another fire district a mere foot stroll down the road. Subsequently, when a significant event occurs south of the reservoir, the aforementioned MFC substation will, based on history, be dispatched as a mutual aide company anyway. The fire district lines were drawn poorly many moons ago and frankly it makes zero sense for YHFD to have any response area south of the reservoir. The taxpayers of Yorktown Heights have rejected the construction of this station multiple times over the course of many years. The commissioners of the YHFD have, in plain sight, found a way to circumvent the will of the taxpayers by over funding other budgetary line items and then allocating those monies to the building fund as opposed to yielding to multiple rejections to referendum the taxpayers have already weighed in on. Finally, while I have no proof of it, logic would dictate that most citizens living south of the reservoir who are interested in being volunteer firefighters are most likely members of the MFC not YHFD. Therefor it would also make sense that the members of YHFD that are required to staff a full response crew for the apparatus housed in the new station will most likely respond from north of the reservoir where the lion-share of YHFD members reside. As a result, the benefit to those protected by the YHFD south of the reservoir is limited by the fact that the response of members is still coming from from north of the reservoir as it has for decades.
    While it is probably easy to think that I'm ranting because I'm a former MFC member, but I have no skin in the game as I live in Florida now, and frankly even if I still lived in the district, the construction of this station doesn't affect MFC's response one bit. MFC never responded to routine calls in YHFD's territory south of the reservoir and I don't believe that YHFD would ever enter into a dual response relationship to do so anyway. MFC has always been a mutual aid company to YHFD's district south of the reservoir and frankly the addition of a single engine company in a sparsely populated area isn't going to eliminate the need to call MFC for mutual aid on larger calls. So for MFC nothing changes. But this rant isn't about MFC its about a poor stewardship of the people's money and the fact that the YHFD commissioners have chosen to brazenly ignore and circumvent the wishes of the people who elected them in the first place. What ever happened to the "consent of the governed?"
  6. BFD1054 liked a post in a topic by mfc2257 in Colorado Officer Calms 2yr Old At Accident That Killed Father   
    While sad this made my heart swell... Atta boy.
    http://kdvr.com/2015/06/22/brighton-police-officers-song-calms-little-girl-at-crash-scene-that-killed-her-dad/
  7. AFS1970 liked a post in a topic by mfc2257 in Pierce Introduces New 107' Single Axle Steel Rearmount Ladder "Ascendant"   
    Scrap the water and pump and this thing can sit lower to the ground. If that happens it will be a compelling option for many departments.
  8. AFS1970 liked a post in a topic by mfc2257 in Pierce Introduces New 107' Single Axle Steel Rearmount Ladder "Ascendant"   
    Scrap the water and pump and this thing can sit lower to the ground. If that happens it will be a compelling option for many departments.
  9. Westfield12 liked a post in a topic by mfc2257 in FDNY hosting citywide ‘Open House’ for 150th anniversary   
    I don't think the guy really is a probie. The article takes their information of the FDNY Rant forum (not unlike this one) and people who have few posts are listed as probies, then FF First Class, etc. as you post more.
    http://fdnyrant.proboards.com/board/12/kitchen
  10. SageVigiles liked a post in a topic by mfc2257 in 2 PG County rigs destroyed by fire   
    I rode in PG 20 years ago. The bashing was the same then. It always will be. The vollies there along with the career jakes that give a damn, are very aggressive in every aspect of fire rescue and EMS services. They train hard, drive fast, ladder every window, every side, and truly attack incidents. Not everyone agrees with this and that is fine. The fact of the matter is, that PG county sees more fire and wrecks than most in our country, and at least while I was around the injury rate as tame comparably. I think what most people really don't like is that hey look at me I'm doing this well attitude that is presented.
  11. Westfield12 liked a post in a topic by mfc2257 in 2 PG County rigs destroyed by fire   
    Photos credit to original photographers who are not me...

    Rescue Engine 33 (Kentland)


    Engine 281 (West Lanham Hills)


  12. FDNY 10-75 liked a post in a topic by mfc2257 in Greenwich FD New Engine 4 Photos   
    Intended to prevent FF leg from falling into step well while door is closed. Large numbers of minor, albeit costly FF injuries happen while riding, entering, and leaving fire apparatus.... Especially during inclement weather.
  13. FDNY 10-75 liked a post in a topic by mfc2257 in Greenwich FD New Engine 4 Photos   
    Intended to prevent FF leg from falling into step well while door is closed. Large numbers of minor, albeit costly FF injuries happen while riding, entering, and leaving fire apparatus.... Especially during inclement weather.
  14. petervonb liked a post in a topic by mfc2257 in Valhalla - Major Emergency Train vs. Car w/ MCI and Fire 2-3-15   
    The best part of this whole discussion is that we're bantering about who got to go sit in someone else's fire house... Not who got to go to the job, but who got to go and sit.... Priceless really....
  15. petervonb liked a post in a topic by mfc2257 in Valhalla - Major Emergency Train vs. Car w/ MCI and Fire 2-3-15   
    The best part of this whole discussion is that we're bantering about who got to go sit in someone else's fire house... Not who got to go to the job, but who got to go and sit.... Priceless really....
  16. INIT915 liked a post in a topic by mfc2257 in Valhalla - Major Emergency Train vs. Car w/ MCI and Fire 2-3-15   
    Bottom of Da Hill, on 03 Feb 2015 - 11:28 PM, said:
    why stand by fd units from ossining isnt that a little far away?maybe armonk or west harrison white plains ?
    Bottom of Da Hill, on 04 Feb 2015 - 01:47 AM, said:
    or maybe just maybe the dispatcher is a member of said FD? thats what it is?you have fairview hartsdale sleepyhollow tarrytown just a few miles away.favoritism with few dispatchers i noticed.
    Bottom of Da Hill, on 04 Feb 2015 - 02:06 AM, said:
    i know all about mutual aid very well and i agree with you to a point.but there is favoritism.
    Bottom of Da Hill, on 04 Feb 2015 - 03:16 AM, said:
    the grand scheme should get what you need there sooner then later kinda like a fast team? thats my experience tells me its not a parade.get what you need ASAP.i dont think the dispatchers should have that kind of power to show favoritism to the dept they belong to.
    Well all the departments you listed including Ossining are a 12-15 minute drive to Valhalla's station. It's not about speed and who is closest for relocations, it's how to balance all of the resources in the county. A relocation is not an emergency per se. It is better to skip over several departments so that wide gaps in coverage aren't created in the process. Hawthorne, Valhalla, North White Plains, Elmsford, Thornwood, and Briarcliff had units committed to this job during rush hour. Leaving TFD, SHFD, PHFD, WHFD, AFD, untouched meant that whichever company relocated to VFD would have had a full complement of second due departments nearby available to respond to another major incident.
    You're hung up on Ossining but the fact of the matter is that they've got a half dozen engines two trucks rescue and support equipment plus a lot of manpower. I'd like you to name a major job North of White Plains from the past 20 years that they haven't been on or relocated for. An 3 man engine or 1 man truck from Hartsdale on a relocate... That's just silly. If I was Greenville, Hartsdale, or Fairview I'd decline the request for a relocate knowing that if have to call back manpower to cover my first due.
    The box was filled appropriately and just because a few Ossining members work for or have previously worked for 60 control does not indicate favoritism. If it's big and in northern Westchester you can be sure Ossining, Bedford Hills, and/or Yorktown are going to be part of the job.
  17. INIT915 liked a post in a topic by mfc2257 in Valhalla - Major Emergency Train vs. Car w/ MCI and Fire 2-3-15   
    Bottom of Da Hill, on 03 Feb 2015 - 11:28 PM, said:
    why stand by fd units from ossining isnt that a little far away?maybe armonk or west harrison white plains ?
    Bottom of Da Hill, on 04 Feb 2015 - 01:47 AM, said:
    or maybe just maybe the dispatcher is a member of said FD? thats what it is?you have fairview hartsdale sleepyhollow tarrytown just a few miles away.favoritism with few dispatchers i noticed.
    Bottom of Da Hill, on 04 Feb 2015 - 02:06 AM, said:
    i know all about mutual aid very well and i agree with you to a point.but there is favoritism.
    Bottom of Da Hill, on 04 Feb 2015 - 03:16 AM, said:
    the grand scheme should get what you need there sooner then later kinda like a fast team? thats my experience tells me its not a parade.get what you need ASAP.i dont think the dispatchers should have that kind of power to show favoritism to the dept they belong to.
    Well all the departments you listed including Ossining are a 12-15 minute drive to Valhalla's station. It's not about speed and who is closest for relocations, it's how to balance all of the resources in the county. A relocation is not an emergency per se. It is better to skip over several departments so that wide gaps in coverage aren't created in the process. Hawthorne, Valhalla, North White Plains, Elmsford, Thornwood, and Briarcliff had units committed to this job during rush hour. Leaving TFD, SHFD, PHFD, WHFD, AFD, untouched meant that whichever company relocated to VFD would have had a full complement of second due departments nearby available to respond to another major incident.
    You're hung up on Ossining but the fact of the matter is that they've got a half dozen engines two trucks rescue and support equipment plus a lot of manpower. I'd like you to name a major job North of White Plains from the past 20 years that they haven't been on or relocated for. An 3 man engine or 1 man truck from Hartsdale on a relocate... That's just silly. If I was Greenville, Hartsdale, or Fairview I'd decline the request for a relocate knowing that if have to call back manpower to cover my first due.
    The box was filled appropriately and just because a few Ossining members work for or have previously worked for 60 control does not indicate favoritism. If it's big and in northern Westchester you can be sure Ossining, Bedford Hills, and/or Yorktown are going to be part of the job.
  18. INIT915 liked a post in a topic by mfc2257 in Valhalla - Major Emergency Train vs. Car w/ MCI and Fire 2-3-15   
    Bottom of Da Hill, on 03 Feb 2015 - 11:28 PM, said:
    why stand by fd units from ossining isnt that a little far away?maybe armonk or west harrison white plains ?
    Bottom of Da Hill, on 04 Feb 2015 - 01:47 AM, said:
    or maybe just maybe the dispatcher is a member of said FD? thats what it is?you have fairview hartsdale sleepyhollow tarrytown just a few miles away.favoritism with few dispatchers i noticed.
    Bottom of Da Hill, on 04 Feb 2015 - 02:06 AM, said:
    i know all about mutual aid very well and i agree with you to a point.but there is favoritism.
    Bottom of Da Hill, on 04 Feb 2015 - 03:16 AM, said:
    the grand scheme should get what you need there sooner then later kinda like a fast team? thats my experience tells me its not a parade.get what you need ASAP.i dont think the dispatchers should have that kind of power to show favoritism to the dept they belong to.
    Well all the departments you listed including Ossining are a 12-15 minute drive to Valhalla's station. It's not about speed and who is closest for relocations, it's how to balance all of the resources in the county. A relocation is not an emergency per se. It is better to skip over several departments so that wide gaps in coverage aren't created in the process. Hawthorne, Valhalla, North White Plains, Elmsford, Thornwood, and Briarcliff had units committed to this job during rush hour. Leaving TFD, SHFD, PHFD, WHFD, AFD, untouched meant that whichever company relocated to VFD would have had a full complement of second due departments nearby available to respond to another major incident.
    You're hung up on Ossining but the fact of the matter is that they've got a half dozen engines two trucks rescue and support equipment plus a lot of manpower. I'd like you to name a major job North of White Plains from the past 20 years that they haven't been on or relocated for. An 3 man engine or 1 man truck from Hartsdale on a relocate... That's just silly. If I was Greenville, Hartsdale, or Fairview I'd decline the request for a relocate knowing that if have to call back manpower to cover my first due.
    The box was filled appropriately and just because a few Ossining members work for or have previously worked for 60 control does not indicate favoritism. If it's big and in northern Westchester you can be sure Ossining, Bedford Hills, and/or Yorktown are going to be part of the job.
  19. INIT915 liked a post in a topic by mfc2257 in Valhalla - Major Emergency Train vs. Car w/ MCI and Fire 2-3-15   
    Bottom of Da Hill, on 03 Feb 2015 - 11:28 PM, said:
    why stand by fd units from ossining isnt that a little far away?maybe armonk or west harrison white plains ?
    Bottom of Da Hill, on 04 Feb 2015 - 01:47 AM, said:
    or maybe just maybe the dispatcher is a member of said FD? thats what it is?you have fairview hartsdale sleepyhollow tarrytown just a few miles away.favoritism with few dispatchers i noticed.
    Bottom of Da Hill, on 04 Feb 2015 - 02:06 AM, said:
    i know all about mutual aid very well and i agree with you to a point.but there is favoritism.
    Bottom of Da Hill, on 04 Feb 2015 - 03:16 AM, said:
    the grand scheme should get what you need there sooner then later kinda like a fast team? thats my experience tells me its not a parade.get what you need ASAP.i dont think the dispatchers should have that kind of power to show favoritism to the dept they belong to.
    Well all the departments you listed including Ossining are a 12-15 minute drive to Valhalla's station. It's not about speed and who is closest for relocations, it's how to balance all of the resources in the county. A relocation is not an emergency per se. It is better to skip over several departments so that wide gaps in coverage aren't created in the process. Hawthorne, Valhalla, North White Plains, Elmsford, Thornwood, and Briarcliff had units committed to this job during rush hour. Leaving TFD, SHFD, PHFD, WHFD, AFD, untouched meant that whichever company relocated to VFD would have had a full complement of second due departments nearby available to respond to another major incident.
    You're hung up on Ossining but the fact of the matter is that they've got a half dozen engines two trucks rescue and support equipment plus a lot of manpower. I'd like you to name a major job North of White Plains from the past 20 years that they haven't been on or relocated for. An 3 man engine or 1 man truck from Hartsdale on a relocate... That's just silly. If I was Greenville, Hartsdale, or Fairview I'd decline the request for a relocate knowing that if have to call back manpower to cover my first due.
    The box was filled appropriately and just because a few Ossining members work for or have previously worked for 60 control does not indicate favoritism. If it's big and in northern Westchester you can be sure Ossining, Bedford Hills, and/or Yorktown are going to be part of the job.
  20. INIT915 liked a post in a topic by mfc2257 in Valhalla - Major Emergency Train vs. Car w/ MCI and Fire 2-3-15   
    Bottom of Da Hill, on 03 Feb 2015 - 11:28 PM, said:
    why stand by fd units from ossining isnt that a little far away?maybe armonk or west harrison white plains ?
    Bottom of Da Hill, on 04 Feb 2015 - 01:47 AM, said:
    or maybe just maybe the dispatcher is a member of said FD? thats what it is?you have fairview hartsdale sleepyhollow tarrytown just a few miles away.favoritism with few dispatchers i noticed.
    Bottom of Da Hill, on 04 Feb 2015 - 02:06 AM, said:
    i know all about mutual aid very well and i agree with you to a point.but there is favoritism.
    Bottom of Da Hill, on 04 Feb 2015 - 03:16 AM, said:
    the grand scheme should get what you need there sooner then later kinda like a fast team? thats my experience tells me its not a parade.get what you need ASAP.i dont think the dispatchers should have that kind of power to show favoritism to the dept they belong to.
    Well all the departments you listed including Ossining are a 12-15 minute drive to Valhalla's station. It's not about speed and who is closest for relocations, it's how to balance all of the resources in the county. A relocation is not an emergency per se. It is better to skip over several departments so that wide gaps in coverage aren't created in the process. Hawthorne, Valhalla, North White Plains, Elmsford, Thornwood, and Briarcliff had units committed to this job during rush hour. Leaving TFD, SHFD, PHFD, WHFD, AFD, untouched meant that whichever company relocated to VFD would have had a full complement of second due departments nearby available to respond to another major incident.
    You're hung up on Ossining but the fact of the matter is that they've got a half dozen engines two trucks rescue and support equipment plus a lot of manpower. I'd like you to name a major job North of White Plains from the past 20 years that they haven't been on or relocated for. An 3 man engine or 1 man truck from Hartsdale on a relocate... That's just silly. If I was Greenville, Hartsdale, or Fairview I'd decline the request for a relocate knowing that if have to call back manpower to cover my first due.
    The box was filled appropriately and just because a few Ossining members work for or have previously worked for 60 control does not indicate favoritism. If it's big and in northern Westchester you can be sure Ossining, Bedford Hills, and/or Yorktown are going to be part of the job.
  21. INIT915 liked a post in a topic by mfc2257 in Valhalla - Major Emergency Train vs. Car w/ MCI and Fire 2-3-15   
    Bottom of Da Hill, on 03 Feb 2015 - 11:28 PM, said:
    why stand by fd units from ossining isnt that a little far away?maybe armonk or west harrison white plains ?
    Bottom of Da Hill, on 04 Feb 2015 - 01:47 AM, said:
    or maybe just maybe the dispatcher is a member of said FD? thats what it is?you have fairview hartsdale sleepyhollow tarrytown just a few miles away.favoritism with few dispatchers i noticed.
    Bottom of Da Hill, on 04 Feb 2015 - 02:06 AM, said:
    i know all about mutual aid very well and i agree with you to a point.but there is favoritism.
    Bottom of Da Hill, on 04 Feb 2015 - 03:16 AM, said:
    the grand scheme should get what you need there sooner then later kinda like a fast team? thats my experience tells me its not a parade.get what you need ASAP.i dont think the dispatchers should have that kind of power to show favoritism to the dept they belong to.
    Well all the departments you listed including Ossining are a 12-15 minute drive to Valhalla's station. It's not about speed and who is closest for relocations, it's how to balance all of the resources in the county. A relocation is not an emergency per se. It is better to skip over several departments so that wide gaps in coverage aren't created in the process. Hawthorne, Valhalla, North White Plains, Elmsford, Thornwood, and Briarcliff had units committed to this job during rush hour. Leaving TFD, SHFD, PHFD, WHFD, AFD, untouched meant that whichever company relocated to VFD would have had a full complement of second due departments nearby available to respond to another major incident.
    You're hung up on Ossining but the fact of the matter is that they've got a half dozen engines two trucks rescue and support equipment plus a lot of manpower. I'd like you to name a major job North of White Plains from the past 20 years that they haven't been on or relocated for. An 3 man engine or 1 man truck from Hartsdale on a relocate... That's just silly. If I was Greenville, Hartsdale, or Fairview I'd decline the request for a relocate knowing that if have to call back manpower to cover my first due.
    The box was filled appropriately and just because a few Ossining members work for or have previously worked for 60 control does not indicate favoritism. If it's big and in northern Westchester you can be sure Ossining, Bedford Hills, and/or Yorktown are going to be part of the job.
  22. INIT915 liked a post in a topic by mfc2257 in Valhalla - Major Emergency Train vs. Car w/ MCI and Fire 2-3-15   
    Bottom of Da Hill, on 03 Feb 2015 - 11:28 PM, said:
    why stand by fd units from ossining isnt that a little far away?maybe armonk or west harrison white plains ?
    Bottom of Da Hill, on 04 Feb 2015 - 01:47 AM, said:
    or maybe just maybe the dispatcher is a member of said FD? thats what it is?you have fairview hartsdale sleepyhollow tarrytown just a few miles away.favoritism with few dispatchers i noticed.
    Bottom of Da Hill, on 04 Feb 2015 - 02:06 AM, said:
    i know all about mutual aid very well and i agree with you to a point.but there is favoritism.
    Bottom of Da Hill, on 04 Feb 2015 - 03:16 AM, said:
    the grand scheme should get what you need there sooner then later kinda like a fast team? thats my experience tells me its not a parade.get what you need ASAP.i dont think the dispatchers should have that kind of power to show favoritism to the dept they belong to.
    Well all the departments you listed including Ossining are a 12-15 minute drive to Valhalla's station. It's not about speed and who is closest for relocations, it's how to balance all of the resources in the county. A relocation is not an emergency per se. It is better to skip over several departments so that wide gaps in coverage aren't created in the process. Hawthorne, Valhalla, North White Plains, Elmsford, Thornwood, and Briarcliff had units committed to this job during rush hour. Leaving TFD, SHFD, PHFD, WHFD, AFD, untouched meant that whichever company relocated to VFD would have had a full complement of second due departments nearby available to respond to another major incident.
    You're hung up on Ossining but the fact of the matter is that they've got a half dozen engines two trucks rescue and support equipment plus a lot of manpower. I'd like you to name a major job North of White Plains from the past 20 years that they haven't been on or relocated for. An 3 man engine or 1 man truck from Hartsdale on a relocate... That's just silly. If I was Greenville, Hartsdale, or Fairview I'd decline the request for a relocate knowing that if have to call back manpower to cover my first due.
    The box was filled appropriately and just because a few Ossining members work for or have previously worked for 60 control does not indicate favoritism. If it's big and in northern Westchester you can be sure Ossining, Bedford Hills, and/or Yorktown are going to be part of the job.