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1 hour ago, vodoly said:

Looks that way to me here 

They actually work very well. We did it with our 4 engines and Tiller.

Looks like you guys did a great job!

7 hours ago, bad box said:

You should not have kinking issues using a low pressure nozzle if: you are using a good, high quality, kink resistant hose as well as incorporating a stream shaper between the nozzle and the hose. This is the best attack line available:  

http://www.keyhose.com/images/pdf/combatready.pdf

 

That is where our issue is. We didn't do enough testing prior to the purchase. We do use KEY hose but we bought the Eco-10 looking for a hose that was lightweight and folded well for attack line  and supply line as well. We run 3 man engines and we were trying to keep the weight down. The hose has been great with the exception of the kinking issues.  

We did with our first one and had no issues with it. We changed to FireAde 2000 due to a vendor change and significant price increase. We have 5 Husky 3's, a 2013 and (4) 2016s. We also have a Husky 12 that is a 2009. The 12 had some issues over the years so we tried the 3. The only negative I have about the 3 is it won't flow a large gpm of foam product. We have busy interstates 95 & 16 and are just outside the port of Savannah so we have a tremendous amount of truck traffic. We flow "foam" on any fire, our engines have 50 gallon tanks. The FireAde has been great and does wonders with reducing the amount of overhaul required and assists with fire suppression. Our 2 crosslays are 200' of 1.75" that is really 2 1/16". We will be swapping to the true 1.75" hose. We run a 15/16" smoothbore and a low psi combination nozzle on them and we have issues with kinking. 

That Tiller from LaPlata has seen more work in its short time in Passaic than it did in its whole career! It seems like as soon as they got it, all h*ll broke loose!

The biggest issue appears to be the amount of time it took to get any water on the fire. The videos is edited so we can't get an actual time line of what occurred.

On 4/9/2017 at 7:53 PM, x635 said:

 

Yup. 19 years old that truck, and in immaculate shape. Being replaced with a Pierce TDA at some point this year (timeline described in an above post), and most likely will be assigned for training or a spare, if not going to another station as a first due.

I have to say, they are some of the best taken care of apparatus I have ever seen, even their extremely busy companies take care of their trucks. It is impressive.

I wouldn't say there are too few. The issue seems to be everyone trying to cut corners to make profit. It seems that the quality of materials is a huge issue. Whether it is overflow tanks on radiators, radiators not made completely of metal. wiring harnesses that have a lower gauge of wire, window regulators that are inferior and don't even start me with the Cummins motor issues. In a recent purchase lack of quality control and employees doing what they were supposed to do. The last purchase involved a multiple truck order and wiring runs were different, grommets not placed holes, some siliconed, some left open. It was a lot of little issues due to volume of trucks being produced and new employees not up to par. The manufacturers have let the older employees retire or leave and when business started to turn around they have been slow to bring on employees and their is no apprenticeship to teach the right way it should be done. ALL OF THE MANUFACTURERS have issues. We had more little issues on our pumpers than or aerial, the aerial guys have been there much longer and were a great group of guys, aerials are a promotion from the engine work it seems, they still have the right attitude and work ethic. Sorry, off my soapbox now.

11 hours ago, FireMedic049 said:

If I'm not mistaken, the feature that you are describing allows the rear steer axle to be locked and this allows the vehicle to be operated with a single driver, but it's more like driving a tractor-trailer than a straight ladder.

They do have that feature. It is designed so the truck can go to maintenance or repair. It isn't designed for regular use, It is only a cotter pin.

7 hours ago, SECTMB said:

Pooler is the City next to where I live now. The Pierce tiller is brand new along with 5 new Pierce engines. The tiller is in their new HQ which just opened last month.

They now have three stations, all new, and a fourth is under construction at this time.  The City has doubled in size over the past 10 years. 

 

When I was checking out their new engines they told me about the tiller coming in. There are a lot of condo and apartment complexes in the City and they wanted a tiller for its manueverability in the tight parking lots.  

 

Actually, we have four stations and bought 4 new engines with the tiller.  A fifth station is about to start construction. The tower was purchased after it was "turned in" (repo) by another department in the Northeast. It is an 09 that we got in 2015. It is an awesome truck and we get a GREAT price. The biggest issue for us is currently we only have the engines and the tiller staffed so the tiller is our ladder and rescue company. The apartment complexes, new shopping center/commercial and amount of traffic accidents in our area. really drove the purchase. We cover about 9 miles of Interstate 95 each direction and about 7 of Interstate 16. Our future plan includes staffing station 5 (2018), then staffing a second ladder in 2019 hopefully (2009 Tower). Until then the tower will be our reserve.

What is the reason for the change to a rescue engine? We are considering a similar project when our rescue is due for replacement. I was looking for some of their reasoning. Our biggest issue is will it have enough space.

The drawing and the Picture are Enforcer chassis not the Dash.

Sorry to see it go from NOLO. Although, I didn't care for the editing in the final episodes with the narratives about how wonderful it is and how great their friendships were. They also basically dropped the Fire Dept and most of the Police out of filming. I know the City had ALOT to do with it since they are also dropping First 48 from the city. 

Not sure what to make of this. They now have 3 aerial lines plus the snorkel product now, something will have to give. What about Smeals' partnership with Ferrara? Maybe Ferrara is next to come into the fold or will they buy some one of the aerial designs (I highly doubt it).

14 hours ago, x635 said:

Although I did not go, and hopefully someone reading this did and can provide more info, I asked a few friends who did attend  and I'll summarize the feedback.

 

Of course, everyone loved the host city. Nashville is a great town. I heard the expo was smaller compared to Baltimore. The majority of attendees were from NY or TN.  There were some interesting training sessions, and the expo floor was really small, with many manufacturers and vendors not attending. 

 

Since this was the first year, maybe next year will see more growth. They have booked the next 3 years in Nashville. Even though when it was in Baltimore and was dying in the last few years of existence there, it still had more potential attendees close by.  It's more expensive and time consuming to go to Nashville from the Northeast, and most of the people spending the money and time doing that would rather go to FDIC.

I went basically to see how it was going to be. I would agree with the above statement. Very small exhibit floor and the classes didn't have much attendance. I will give them another chance but they need some big improvements and buy in from the vendors. I personally would rather it go back to Baltimore/DC area. It is about 100 miles further for me but a much better drive or a 1/3 of the air fare. Plus the hotels were cheaper in Baltimore.

They aren't ordering from E-One yet. It is just out for bid. However, it will probably be E-One or Pierce that gets the bid from what I have heard.

While I am not currently buying one. I did tour the factory and they have made some significant improvements to the entire operation and the quality of the units I saw. I still don't know if we would buy from them again (we have 4 units right now).

The bid that was out is based off a KME 103' rearmount but stranger things have happened!! Hall County Georgia is emergency purchasing a Pierce Rearmount tower to replace the Sutphen that failed and injured their firefighters. It should be delivered in a few months.

Five at the most, especially on inspections. You may have a larger committee or group to help develop specifications but the large group is a hinderance while trying to do an inspection.

Okay, that is what is in the recommended budget that is posted on line.

Asked for an Engine, Command vehicle, and 100,000 for improvements to Fire Station 3.

They are crazy if they think it is worth 365,000!!

Georgia is pretty easy getting hired but it also is an at will state. Atlanta area always hiring as well as along the coast in Savannah. Savannah-Chatham Metro PD hires regularly.

Actually, we are getting ready to do a similar thing. Although not every one will get one we will assign them to the "company" for use. It will include a truck mount and otter box case. We can get a little over 2 for the cost of our current desktops. The biggest plus is access to pre-plans and ability to complete reports and retrieve email and/or messages while in the field. Individual ones does seem a bit excessive but they run a ton of calls spread out over a huge area so it may be beneficial in keeping units in service and in district.