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Out of control??? All I see on here is grown men having a conversation about a very controversial subject regarding Yorktown.
And if they were to enter into a mutual aid agreement for every call, you're right. We would talk about it. It's covering up a much larger issue of a lack of manpower.
Nobody is attacking YHFD for trying to protect their constituents, but in this day and age with EVERYONE looking at how we spend taxpayer money, we/they can do better.

So if very few members live down there, now instead of driving in a RL&S fire truck that can go through Red Lights, pass cars, etc.(all in accordance with the law), the members will now have to drive to this firehouse in their personal vehicles with the blue light brigade, wait at red lights, not necessarily be given the courtesy to pass, or get into an accident due to the further response distance.
Yeah this totally makes sense.
And a breakdown for some people that aren't familiar with the area.(All in driving miles)
Distance from proposed site to Millwood Sta. 1- 2.8mi
Distance from proposed site to Yorktown Sta. 1- 6.4mi (Google Earth says its faster to get on the Taconic, instead of using the backroads.)
Distance from proposed site to Millwood/Yorktown District Line- 1.3mi
Distance from Millwood Sta. 1 to district Line- 1.5mi
I guess it's generally regarded that south of the reservoir is the "south side" of YHFD's district.
From Millwood Sta. 1, it is 3.1 miles to the reservoir.
From the proposed site, it is 2.4 miles to the reservoir.
So what they are trying to tell us is that to have a firehouse that is 0.7 miles closer than the nearest firehouse to the "dividing line", it is worth building an entire firehouse?
Capt. Nechis, I'm waiting to hear your favorite word!

But can Millwood guarantee a response time with apparatus and manpower that is acceptable in their OWN district? And this is in no way a shot against Millwood, but being a volunteer agency, you CAN'T GUARANTEE any type of response. Period.
So use the money to build a new station 1, if they are in such dire need.
And we have spoken about those departments to the point that we're beating a dead horse with a stick. This is just a semi-new topic.

So if very few members live down there, now instead of driving in a RL&S fire truck that can go through Red Lights, pass cars, etc.(all in accordance with the law), the members will now have to drive to this firehouse in their personal vehicles with the blue light brigade, wait at red lights, not necessarily be given the courtesy to pass, or get into an accident due to the further response distance.
Yeah this totally makes sense.
And a breakdown for some people that aren't familiar with the area.(All in driving miles)
Distance from proposed site to Millwood Sta. 1- 2.8mi
Distance from proposed site to Yorktown Sta. 1- 6.4mi (Google Earth says its faster to get on the Taconic, instead of using the backroads.)
Distance from proposed site to Millwood/Yorktown District Line- 1.3mi
Distance from Millwood Sta. 1 to district Line- 1.5mi
I guess it's generally regarded that south of the reservoir is the "south side" of YHFD's district.
From Millwood Sta. 1, it is 3.1 miles to the reservoir.
From the proposed site, it is 2.4 miles to the reservoir.
So what they are trying to tell us is that to have a firehouse that is 0.7 miles closer than the nearest firehouse to the "dividing line", it is worth building an entire firehouse?
Capt. Nechis, I'm waiting to hear your favorite word!

Im glad to see taxpayer money go to good use to build a firehouse where its so desperately needed, and there are no other firehouses around for miles....
Millwood.

Out of control??? All I see on here is grown men having a conversation about a very controversial subject regarding Yorktown.
And if they were to enter into a mutual aid agreement for every call, you're right. We would talk about it. It's covering up a much larger issue of a lack of manpower.
Nobody is attacking YHFD for trying to protect their constituents, but in this day and age with EVERYONE looking at how we spend taxpayer money, we/they can do better.

Out of control??? All I see on here is grown men having a conversation about a very controversial subject regarding Yorktown.
And if they were to enter into a mutual aid agreement for every call, you're right. We would talk about it. It's covering up a much larger issue of a lack of manpower.
Nobody is attacking YHFD for trying to protect their constituents, but in this day and age with EVERYONE looking at how we spend taxpayer money, we/they can do better.

Out of control and should be shut down? If you feel thats the case, hit the report button, thats what it is there for. This thread and it's posts have so far been professional, mature, and a lot of decent points have been made about other options that may have been available to YHFD instead of continuing to build a firehouse that the taxpayers said no to not once, but twice. Instead of stomping your feet that this thread is "out of control and should be shut down", how about providing an educated, well thought out rebuttal as to why the firehouse is a necessity. And please stop with the "people are against us cause we're volunteer" nonsense; quite frankly its getting really old. If someone from YHFD would like to provide some information as to this firehouse, I'm sure everyone would respect some insight. Personally I think it's silly to go forward with this build considering the close proximity of Millwood, and as my parents are taxpayers in Yorktown, I'm curious how many firefighters live in the south end of town to staff the apparatus. That opinion is based on facts provided by others... My opinion can be changed if someone can offer up a logical argument to convince me otherwise.

Out of control??? All I see on here is grown men having a conversation about a very controversial subject regarding Yorktown.
And if they were to enter into a mutual aid agreement for every call, you're right. We would talk about it. It's covering up a much larger issue of a lack of manpower.
Nobody is attacking YHFD for trying to protect their constituents, but in this day and age with EVERYONE looking at how we spend taxpayer money, we/they can do better.

So if very few members live down there, now instead of driving in a RL&S fire truck that can go through Red Lights, pass cars, etc.(all in accordance with the law), the members will now have to drive to this firehouse in their personal vehicles with the blue light brigade, wait at red lights, not necessarily be given the courtesy to pass, or get into an accident due to the further response distance.
Yeah this totally makes sense.
And a breakdown for some people that aren't familiar with the area.(All in driving miles)
Distance from proposed site to Millwood Sta. 1- 2.8mi
Distance from proposed site to Yorktown Sta. 1- 6.4mi (Google Earth says its faster to get on the Taconic, instead of using the backroads.)
Distance from proposed site to Millwood/Yorktown District Line- 1.3mi
Distance from Millwood Sta. 1 to district Line- 1.5mi
I guess it's generally regarded that south of the reservoir is the "south side" of YHFD's district.
From Millwood Sta. 1, it is 3.1 miles to the reservoir.
From the proposed site, it is 2.4 miles to the reservoir.
So what they are trying to tell us is that to have a firehouse that is 0.7 miles closer than the nearest firehouse to the "dividing line", it is worth building an entire firehouse?
Capt. Nechis, I'm waiting to hear your favorite word!

Im glad to see taxpayer money go to good use to build a firehouse where its so desperately needed, and there are no other firehouses around for miles....
Millwood.

And they didn't even have enough time to do that.

Im glad to see taxpayer money go to good use to build a firehouse where its so desperately needed, and there are no other firehouses around for miles....
Millwood.

Pictures from this morning's job in Norwalk.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/01/10287851-nypd-cop-is-shot-in-the-head-expected-to-make-full-recovery
Incredible.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/01/10287851-nypd-cop-is-shot-in-the-head-expected-to-make-full-recovery
Incredible.

Dude I think you should just give up now and not say anymore...you're not making things better....

Your even forgot the "courtesy" lights so you can drive like an a$$, and enough antennas to open a mobile radioshack.

It's gonna come back looking like this.

It's gonna come back looking like this.

Are you nuts?! Stop with the self pitty. A quick look at the Police and In Memorium forums I found 2 LEO LODD in 2012, that combined have not received as many posts as this one thread. Too bad there have all ready been 12 officers who have lost their lives in the line of duty this year, including a detective in New Haven. As this is clearly a forum dominated by all thing fire related, did they fare any better? Nope, 7 LODD so far and I see zero mention of any of their deaths. Yet the medic that no one here knew, no one here worked with, and died not while confronting an armed assailant or saving a life has gotten more attention. Her death was no less or more important than any other. Like every single other death her family, friends, and co-workers are devastated. This is not the issue to plant your flag on the issue of disrespect. Express your condolences as you see fit and find a more appropriate forum for sharing your views on the perception of EMS.

You do not need hose to buff...but a big red truck with red lights & siren gets there faster.

People are injured/killed intervening in law enforcement incidents all the time. However, and these are just a couple of examples, good samaritans saved countless lives when they retook control of Flight 93 on 9/11 and train riders subdued Colin Ferguson during his shooting rampage on the LIRR so there are examples.
These humans were trying to save other humans trapped in a burning building. They were not professionals nor were they probably aware of the hazards associated with their actions but they did try to do something when others routinely stand idly by. I won't be so quick to condemn them.

If Pass alarms are going off on the fireground by accident it is a training issue plain and simple.

You mean 6th....