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Heres a few pictures i got.

Hope you enjoyed them. All the photos I took from today's fire can be viewed on my flickr page (Link below). I'll post a short video latter.

Apologies for the constant adjusting early on in the first few clips. I was trying to find the right height and angle since I was on a hill and all. The remainder of the videos can be seen on youtube and follow them since there's a total of 26. I also don't know how to post video on here anymore.
http://youtu.be/LzfLw0pVyTc?hd=1
http://youtu.be/iOZPUQaY2NA?hd=1
http://youtu.be/09jT5r5S9Ks?hd=1
http://youtu.be/niNpKvB3N6w?hd=1
http://youtu.be/v_Ms59Ou4ow?hd=1
Edit: Update the number of clips to the final number of 26.

Date: 28 April 2012
Time: 1745
Location: Rear of 185 Warburton Avenue
Frequency: 156.000
Units Operating: HFD Chiefs, E-46, L-22, R-100, HFD Amb-1, GPD EMS Medic, HPD
Weather Conditions: Clear and cool
Description Of Incident: Man down embankment with heavy bleeding
Reporters: soboss34
HFD, HPD abd GPD-EMS received report of a male approx 30 ft down a steep embankment. Reports are victim was clearing brush, lost his balance and as he fell sustained severe laceration with heavy bleeding to his arm from saw he was using. Victim was not located by family for reportedly 2 or more hours and had a large amount of blood loss. Victim was treated in place on embankment by GPD medic and FD/PD. Backboarded and collared and secured in Stokes basket. L-22 aerial was extended and tip placed just below victim (approx. 30-40ft above ground). Victim was lowered by rope lowering system down aerial to turntable and handed over to ambulance crew. Transported to WMC with medic onboard.

Saw it from Hudson River in Riverdale by west 254 st looked spectacular, flew north turned around and headed south over us again.

Date: 3/27/12
Time:2300hrs
Location: 410 Benedict Ave (X Maple Ave) - Fire in Appartment #A2
Frequency: 46.26, Fire 14, Fire 12, Fire 10, EMS 14, FG8, FG6, TPD, MPEMS, OFD, DFFD
Departments on Scene: Tarrytown, Sleepy Hollow, Ossining, Elmsford, Dobbs Ferry, Ardsley, Irvington
Tarrytown FD Units: 2461 (IC), 2462, 2463, E76, E77, E79, E80, L37, TL78, U61
Sleepy Hollow FD Units: 2311, 2312, E86, TL38
Ossining FD Units: 2332, 2334, E97, L41
Elmsford FD Units: 2111, L55 (FAST)
Dobbs Ferry FD Units: 2091, E47
Ardsley FD Untis: 2011, 2012, L50 (FAST)
Irvington FD Units: 2201, 2202, 2203, E178, L36, R49 (Cascade)
Tarrytown VAC: 81B1
Sleepy Hollow VAC: 73B1
Irvington VAC Units: 64B2
Pleasantville VAC: 76B1, 76-05 (Rehab)
Mt. Pleassant Medics: 37M1, 37M2
Westchester DES Units: Bat 14, C&O Z3
Utilities: Con Ed
Various Units: Red Cross, FM-15, Tarryown PD
Standby Units at Tarrytown FD HQ: [Peasantville FD: 2372, TL5}, [Pocantico Hills FD: 2381, 2382, E189]
Standby Units at Sleepy Hollow FD HQ: [Croton FD: 2081, TL44]
Weather Conditions: Mostly Clear, 40 Degrees
Description Of Incident: Working fire in a 6 Story OMD, multiple lines stretched, minor injuries reported
Reporters: peterose313
Writer: firedude
2300hrs: 2461 reporting a high rise fire, fire is located in a second floor appartment
2302hrs: 2461 requesting 1 engine and 2 ladders to scene
2304hrs: Bat 14responding
2305hrs: 2311 requesting Ossining ladder to HQ
2305hrs: 2461 requesting addition mutual air engine
2305hrs: L55 and 2222 responding as FAST
2306hrs: E86 responding
2308hrs: Bat 14 on location
2308hrs: 2202 resonding
2308hrs: Ossining dispatched to relocate 1 ladder to Sleepy Hollow’s Beckman Ave HQ
2309hrs: 2203 assembling a crew
2309hrs: Pleastville TL5 and Pocantico Hills dispatched to relocate to Tarrytown FD HQ, 50 Main Street
2309hrs: L36 responding
2310hrs: 2382 responding
2310hrs: E86 on location
2310hrs: 2334 report L41 will relocate
2312hrs: 2381 responding
2312hrs: TL38 on location
2313hrs: 2202 on location
2314hrs: Bat 13 reports 2nd Floor fire in 6 story OMD, main body of fire K/D, Apartment is on “A” side of building, “A” side is south facing. Utilizing FG6, FG8 and Fire 14.
2315hrs: IC requesting 2202 to have crews search 3rd floor above fire
2317hrs: L36, 2203, E178 on location
2317hrs: IC requesting L38 to proceed to roof to open up
2317hrs: 2234, L41 relocating
2318hrs: E189 responding
2319hrs: 2461 requesting 1 additional ladder, C&O and Con Ed to scene
2320hrs: 60 Control enquiring whether they need a TL or straight stick?
2320hrs: 2334, L41 requested to scene, responding
2322hrs: Bat 14 requesting Ossining Units to respond via route 119, requesting 2 additional EMS units
2322hrs: Croton ladder requested to relocate to Tarrytown
2324hrs: Bat 14 confirms L55 on location operating as Fast
2324hrs: C and O zone 3 dispatched
2324hrs: 2382 on location
2225hrs: IC requesting 2 addition engines, 1 additional truck to respond to scene via route 119
2227hrs: 2461 fire is knocked down in apartment A2 searching and overhauling
2227hrs: Dobbs Ferry Engine dispatched to scene by DBPD
2228hrs: Ardsley ladder, Dobbs ferry engine and Ossining Engine dispatched by 60 Control
2328hrs: IC requesting Red Cross for approx 12 displaced
2328hrs: E97 awaiting crew
2329hrs: 2013 responding
2331hrs: IC requesting L50 to assume fast and relieve Elmsford Fast
2231hrs: 2091, E47 responding
2332hrs: 2334, L41 on location, crew to report to Command Post
2333hrs: L55 responding
2333hrs: 2372 and TL5 out at 50 Main St
2334hrs: 60 Control updates 2372, TL5, E189 2381 are relocated at Tarrytown FD HQ. 2081 TL44 are out at Sleepy Hollow
2338hrs: IC requesting L41 crew to assist in ventilation and entry on roof
2339hrs: 2201, 2202 on location
2340hrs: 2091, E47 on location
2344hrs: 64B2 on location
2345hrs: E97 on location, to go to Command post with Forcible entry tools
2345hrs: 2332 on location
2349hrs: 2081 and TL44 out at SLFD HQ
2349hrs: Bat 14 reports E47 to work, L50 for relief, Greenburgh Fire Marshal (FM-15) on location
2349hrs: C and O enroute, Red Cross gathering
2355hrs: Pleasantville EMS Rehab responding
2359hrs: Emergency Alert received from 2462
2359hrs: 2461 reports 2462 alert was accidental
0000hrs: 76-05 requested to enter via route 119, to set up in lot by command post
0001hrs: IC requesting cascade to scene, U44 OOS, requesting Irvington rescue
0004hrs: IC reports L50, E97, E178 back in service
0012hrs: R49 responding
0016hrs: L50 returning to service
0017hrs: L36, L55 returning to service, C&O on location
0019hrs: R47 on location
0019hrs: E178 back in service
0021hrs: L36 back in service
0021hrs: 76-05 reports they need an ambulance for an injured firefighter, Irvington VAC to transport
0031hrs: E47 can return to service, IVAC to report to command post
0038hrs: 64B2 to return to command post IFO 412 Benedict Ave
0038hrs: 64B2 to remain in service at scene, another EMS unit is transporting per Bat 14
0038hrs: E86, TL38 can return per IC
0040hrs: E47 returning to the village
0041hrs: 2091 returning
0043hrs: 64B2 transporting 3 patients and 1 passenger to Phelps, all BLS
0052hrs: 64B2 out at Phelps
0053hrs: IC releasing Ossining ladder per Bat 14
0101hrs: 3212 back in service, 2313 to remain in service with the units in Sleepy Hollow
0102hrs: R49 can return per IC
0109hrs: L38, E79 and E76 back in service
0110hrs: Pleasantville VAC rehab has been released per IC
0112hrs: 2202, 2232, 2334, L41, R49 back in service
0116hrs: 2381, E189 back in service
0117hrs: 2081, TL44 back in service
0119hrs: R49 back in HQ
0123hrs: U61 back in service
0126hrs: 2461 releasing L37 from scene, can release standby units when they return
0128hrs: All mutual aid units clear, Tarrytown picking up, C&O have completed investigation, residents being allowed back in, bat 14 in service
0133hrs: Pleasantville VAC units in service
0134hrs: E80 back in service
0134hrs: Pleasantville FD units clear, returning to service
0138hrs: 2461 terminating command, all units clear!
0151hrs: 64B2 clearing hospital, returning to quarters
**If you have any info, Please try to PM me. I may have made a few mistakes with the forum changes

Vinny,
I took Essentials in 1994. All I remember was folding tarps, rolling hose, and putting on our gear and air packs. No real hands on stuff until I took Initial Fire Attack, Fire Attack II and others.
What guys get now in Firefighter I is so much better, it's just not enough yet. I think we should all push to see FF I, FF II, Survival, FAST, HMFRO, Confined Space Awareness, AVET and Truck Ops all into one "minimal" program. Sure it's a lot, but it is a good start.

Yonkers 3rd Alarm, 12-28-11 at 81 Van Cortlandt Park Av

I thought it was just a bunch of Truckies who are afraid of heights.

Yonkers was probably dispatched due to a 911 call...just guessing. It came through Yonkers dispatch. That road is a broken street that runs into Yonkers, to the east side of the Saw Mill Pkwy. As for the fire, I don't believe the tank had released prior to Hastings units arriving on scene so probably why no foam was flowing earlier on. Once it did start to let go, a dike was made with speedy dry downhill on the road, but did not hold up due to the flow of water. I think the main concern was on exposure and the car fire itself. Also, just my thoughts, but the road was also on a decent grade and building a bigger dike likely would have just led the gas to the opposite side of the road once filled with water, into YFD rigs. Before anyone criticizes rig placement...it was a hill. Once YFD got there there was no room to park uphill, so rigs were spotted opposite the trail of water at a good distance away from the main fire. A dry chemical extinguisher was used earlier on...darkened it down, but the vehicle tires had blown and the vehicle was sitting very low. Some unreached spots of fire just reignited the gas. Once foam was put into operation it was not doing much since the driveway slope was too severe for foam to maintain a blanket, and again, very difficult to get sufficient foam up to the tank due to the tires being out. The vehicle had a full 40 gallon tank from what I was told, so it leaked for a while. Both departments worked well together and I'm sure Hastings would have stuck around if roles were reversed. It was quite obvious that it was a stubborn fire. Thanks for the cookies Hastings!

I repeat:
We could pick this apart forever. Now that everyone has camera phones and cameras that take videos, we're always under the gun for criticism and everyone thinks that they are an expert. This is why everyone complains about this forum. A lot of the time, thinly veiled criticism is posed as a question.
If someone on scene that is an officer wants to come on here and comment or give insight and maybe answer questions, fine. I'd love to see that. But they are under no obligation to answer to their tatics here, other then if they wannt to use this to enhance firefighter safety. So, relax on the critcism. I'm pretty sure this is not the first car fire these guys have put out, and I'm sure they can use the video to learn.
Again, this is what give the forum a bad name. I think a video like this is a great learning tool, but these types of threads actually make people not want to share their experiences. Everyone wants to criticize other departments, but when it comes to their own department or themselves...
I think this is an excellent video to learn from. But I'm sure Hastings and Yonkers wouldn't appreciate speculation. Let's continue this as a discussion of tatics, and not a "why" thread.

Nobody is "Monday Morning Quarterbacking" in this thread. Most of the discussion has been based on the scenario. HFD and YFD both did great jobs, and NO ONE is questiong that. Additionally, it's not your job to tell other members "end of story". If your bored with a thread, don't read it. If you have an issue with a thread or member, contact a staff member. It's our determination. This has been a constructive discussion, and nobody is criticizing the incident or speculating on the incident itself. People need to stop criticizing this forum and discussions, this is, for the most part, an excellent example of two threads this week that EMTBravo is all about.
With that said........
Car fires aren't as simple as they used to be. With a variety of cars out there using a variety of fuel or electricity to propel them, along with safety features that can become dangerous when on fire, puts a whole new spin on car fires.
Additionally, here in Central Texas, we are experiencing a major heat wave, with temps above 100 for over 70 days now, and a exceptional drought that has left everything bone dry-including large fields and heavy brush. A simple car fire here can cause massive damage to the surrounding area....and I'm talking in square miles in some cases. So it needs to be extinguished quickly. Some of the hills out here make Yonkers look flat, so containing any fuel runoff is critical in those areas.
Remember, most gasoline brands contain about 5-10% ethanol in their regular fuel, if not more. Whereas gas floats to the surface, it is eventually extinguished by water. Sometimes,depending on the weather, spilled gasoline will evaporate quickly. Ethanol continues to burn, because it mixes with water.
E85, which is 85% ethanol, and can be seen by the "Flex Fuel" label on most vehicles, presents a whole new problem, making car fires much more hazardous.
Ethanol also doesn't always produce visible smoke or sometimes flame, so it could be burning without you knowing.
To effectively extinguish an ethanol fire, you need an alcohol resistant foam.
Just something to look out for at a stubborn car fire.

Another pic of the Fire Fighter 2 from fire fighter apprecion at the intrepid

Another pic of the Fire Fighter 2 from fire fighter apprecion at the intrepid

Another pic of the Fire Fighter 2 from fire fighter apprecion at the intrepid

Another pic of the Fire Fighter 2 from fire fighter apprecion at the intrepid

Another pic of the Fire Fighter 2 from fire fighter apprecion at the intrepid

Ive read this post many times and I still fail to see the reason for posting it but it most certainly requires a response.
From what I know of you, you have no background in Law Enforcement so your ideas of how cops should feel about being cops and what they should do on duty may be how it is in a perfect world but in reality thats not how it works. This would be like me who knows nothing of fire fighting making critical observations about the fire service and putting all over the post " No offense guys" and " this is not a knock to firefighters".
As far as I've seen, you're the only member on here from texas so you are the only one who could answer your own question of " why are police officers down here so different ?"
I've been a cop for 12 years and I go balls to the wall every day I go into work as do most cops I know. Would it be nice to follow up with every crime victim we deal with ? Yes but we don't have the time or the manpower to do that stuff. How do you know that cops up here don't know their post as well as cops in Texas ?
Cops are in a unique situation to be cross trained in rescue, where as FD's can't be trained in law enforcement specific things... thats just the way it is.
You ask why is there competition ? There always has and always will be competiton in the emergency services and it's healthy to a degree.
You ask why are there not more hudson river patrols ? There are in the summer but not so much in the winter but what does one thing have to do with the other ?
The bottom line is that expanding the scope of your working capabilities means more job security and possibly more state and federal funding.
The biggest difference between cops up here and cops in texas is that maybe cops in texas enjoy a lot more community support than cops in the north east get.