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I couldn't agree less. Is the point of this site to critique operations and procedures or is it just to talk about who's got a shiny new truck. (even though we all DO like shiny new trucks).
There is no fire operation anywhere ever that is text book perfect. Anyone who feels thier operation requires no critique, comment or question is dangerously self confident. We Monday morning quarterback because that's how everyone learns!
From the look of the smoke colum from those great aerial photos, it looks like they managed to make a great stop. From the video, it looks like that house will be perfectly sound for renovation. With today's interior furnishings and petroleum products, a saved structure is a good stop. Well done.
Asking about positioning ect. is just that, a question. It invites debate and discussion and no one should take offense, as long as questioning parties act appropriately.

That looks just like the one I saw last week down there, the American Lafrance. Based on that picture and search in google, thats the older (2009) ladder.
This thread here: http://www.emtbravo....s-ny-ladder-32/ says the new ladder suppose to be delivered by now I would assume. Who knows...
(Maybe TheNewLadder32 would know.. )

Good times all around. I was on the pier just south of the Intrepid for my pictures. I was filming some of it for my cousins son, and explaining what each boat was. My girlfriend says to me, "Who are you talking to??" as I shut the camera off. Kinda funny. I ended up buffing the 3rd with them, but by the time I got down there, not much to see other than rigs.

Heres a few pictures i got.

So what happens when they order a new Sutphen ladder and it's already built into the grill? What will he do then, paint over it? lol what a joke!

Reminds me of a joke that never goes away.. "Go on that side it will level it out!"

The picture of the guy in the driver seat holding on to the steering wheel is the best, especially because the tires under him are not on the ground.

Its funny, I have the almost exact opposite opinion. I am not, nor should any one else be afraid of incidents like this. You never see mass murders at comic-con, and at comic-con there are probably 100 times as many people dressed up in costume or in character. This incident was the work of one crazed individual in one specific location, I bet this was one of only a few acts of violence at all of the thousands of movie premiers last night. This could have happened anywhere in the US and anywhere in the world. I do not nor will not let mad men like this nutcase ruin my fun. I will walk with my head high in the movies tonight unafraid, I will not be intimidated by the crazies in life and neither should you.

When this first hit the news, an anti-gun friend of mine said "what type of person takes a gun to a movie theater?"
My reply: "I do from now on"...
JJB531 makes a great point with regards to CCW proficiency...spot on.

JJB, well said sir! Ya NEVER know when you may be faced with a bad situation and personally, I'll like having the odds stacked in my corner. A firearm may not be the end-all, say-all, but I'd much rather have one than not!
RIP to the victims
Thoughts and prayers with the wounded, the affected families and the first responders.
Rotting in hell would be to easy for this skell. Cruel and unusual punishment would be fitting, too bad we're too liberal.

Good point, didn't really think of that.

OK off topic for a sec.
I'm not a gun owner or a member of the NRA, but I am a supporter of the United States Constitution which states in it's 2nd Amendment that we Americans have the right to bear arms. Remember one of the first thing the Nazis did when they took power in the interest of "public safety" was to ban private gun ownership and confiscate all the privately owned firearms they could get their hands on (except their own of course). And while I'm also not much of a conspiracy theorist, Obama and company, hell all of Washington's "elite" as far as I'm concerned, do seem to be aiming at a police state. I'll gladly bear the horrors of our violent nation and the freedoms we have left in spite of them over the "safety" of a gun free police state any day.
Just my 2cents...sorry to go off topic.

To your comment I have 2 things to say:
1. Its too bad the PD didn't get the chance to put this animal down. While we all hope that no law enforcement officer ever has to fire his weapon in the course of duty, but in this case, it would have been justice done simply.
2. In CT there is no law against carrying a legally possessed weapon into a movie theater. Without getting into the huge gun control debate that will inevitably come out in the next few days (though it apparently already has) or "what if'ing" the specifics of this incident, theres nothing that prevents a permit holder from carrying in a theater in CT, not sure how you are in NY. Sure, the theater owner could say "no weapons on premises" and as a permit holder you would have to oblige, and they could get metal detectors, but LEGALLY there's nothing wrong with bringing your gun to a theater. Also, from the reports out right now (which of course may prove to be inaccurate) this guy had a shotgun and a rifle slung over his back. If you need a metal detector to find that, I'd recommend a good optician.
To the issue at hand here:
My heart goes out to the victims of this tragedy as well as their friends and families, and of course the first responders who I'm sure went through Hell trying to get this under control. It looks like the EOD and Tactical teams are still trying to render safe some IEDs at the suspect's house, wishing those guys a safe trip downrange. One of my classmates from Anniston is a Lieutenant with Denver Paramedics, I'm waiting to hear back if he was there and doing okay. This area not being any stranger to incidents of mass murder, I'm sure they have all the necessary CISD resources in the area to help these guys get through this emotionally. I'm sure this community will come back even stronger than ever, but we definitely need to stand with them now.
But what, to me, is one of the most disturbing parts of this entire tragedy is that within TWELVE HOURS, individuals with their political agenda have already opened their stupid, uninformed mouths and given their opinion on who is to blame and how we should prevent this type of thing from happening, etc. The FBI and police haven't even finished interrogating the guy yet and already these talking heads and political sycophants are going to give us "expert analysis" on what went through the mind of the shooter. There's something fundamentally wrong the modern media when their editors are willing to spew that kind of nonsense before the incident is even OVER. That is wrong, and we as a society need to let these people know that we aren't going to accept this kind of "reporting" (and I use that term very lightly.) There's just no such thing as responsible journalism anymore.

He better get the death penalty for this, I certanly hope they DO NOT find this guy insane

All I can say is WTF is going on !!!!
I hope this lunatic rots for all eternity after an agonizing and painful death. RIP to all those murdered and condolences to their families. May the injured heal quickly in both body and mind.

Wow. I could never think of why someone would do this. Disgraceful that people like this exist. R.I.P all deceased victims, prayers are with all others for a speedy recovery.
Nathan- you may want to revise the title of this thread.

guys, i dont mean to sound like a complainer or whatever people call it these days, but saying congrats to ME or congrats to these certain people, is a bit rude to all the other brave men and women who completed it and took the challenge "your" people did to. i was suprised to see some of us that have been in the fire services for decades to write something like that.
so, to say it the correct way, congrats to ALL firefighters who took the course yet another job well done folks.

guys, i dont mean to sound like a complainer or whatever people call it these days, but saying congrats to ME or congrats to these certain people, is a bit rude to all the other brave men and women who completed it and took the challenge "your" people did to. i was suprised to see some of us that have been in the fire services for decades to write something like that.
so, to say it the correct way, congrats to ALL firefighters who took the course yet another job well done folks.

Just a question with the different color coats, is that the company officer or the ladder company members wearing the tan coats? I figured its for ID purposes.

Would like to share a link to some very nice photos taken by firedude. Kyle, great photos as usual seemed like a nice fire they got.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/42030424@N08/
Like stated above, photos by firedude.

I understand where your coming from but with all due respect, I don't find anything wrong with a guy congratulating his son or the members of his department. Congratulations to all.

guys, i dont mean to sound like a complainer or whatever people call it these days, but saying congrats to ME or congrats to these certain people, is a bit rude to all the other brave men and women who completed it and took the challenge "your" people did to. i was suprised to see some of us that have been in the fire services for decades to write something like that.
so, to say it the correct way, congrats to ALL firefighters who took the course yet another job well done folks.

yeah thats becoming more and more visible, disgraceful what a name can get you out of.

When it rains it really pours doesn't it?
Seth I want to add my own humble best wishes to you and for you.
Crazy thing is, a year or two down the road somehow everything always seems to make sense. I don't know why or how that is but life always seems to work that way.
Hang in there buddy, you're a survivor I can tell.

Just maybe he can be a driver for the new Tanker 10 then.. He'd be a lucky person..