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The Westchester Fire Advisory Board is having a quarterly meeting tonight at 4 Dana Road, Valhalla, NY beginning at 7:30 p.m. I expect to see all you Monday Morning Quarterbacks there ready to explain how you'll fix the entire county fire service like you claim you can on here.

The Westchester Fire Advisory Board is having a quarterly meeting tonight at 4 Dana Road, Valhalla, NY beginning at 7:30 p.m. I expect to see all you Monday Morning Quarterbacks there ready to explain how you'll fix the entire county fire service like you claim you can on here.

The Westchester Fire Advisory Board is having a quarterly meeting tonight at 4 Dana Road, Valhalla, NY beginning at 7:30 p.m. I expect to see all you Monday Morning Quarterbacks there ready to explain how you'll fix the entire county fire service like you claim you can on here.

The Westchester Fire Advisory Board is having a quarterly meeting tonight at 4 Dana Road, Valhalla, NY beginning at 7:30 p.m. I expect to see all you Monday Morning Quarterbacks there ready to explain how you'll fix the entire county fire service like you claim you can on here.

The Westchester Fire Advisory Board is having a quarterly meeting tonight at 4 Dana Road, Valhalla, NY beginning at 7:30 p.m. I expect to see all you Monday Morning Quarterbacks there ready to explain how you'll fix the entire county fire service like you claim you can on here.

The Westchester Fire Advisory Board is having a quarterly meeting tonight at 4 Dana Road, Valhalla, NY beginning at 7:30 p.m. I expect to see all you Monday Morning Quarterbacks there ready to explain how you'll fix the entire county fire service like you claim you can on here.

The Westchester Fire Advisory Board is having a quarterly meeting tonight at 4 Dana Road, Valhalla, NY beginning at 7:30 p.m. I expect to see all you Monday Morning Quarterbacks there ready to explain how you'll fix the entire county fire service like you claim you can on here.

The Westchester Fire Advisory Board is having a quarterly meeting tonight at 4 Dana Road, Valhalla, NY beginning at 7:30 p.m. I expect to see all you Monday Morning Quarterbacks there ready to explain how you'll fix the entire county fire service like you claim you can on here.

The Westchester Fire Advisory Board is having a quarterly meeting tonight at 4 Dana Road, Valhalla, NY beginning at 7:30 p.m. I expect to see all you Monday Morning Quarterbacks there ready to explain how you'll fix the entire county fire service like you claim you can on here.

The Westchester Fire Advisory Board is having a quarterly meeting tonight at 4 Dana Road, Valhalla, NY beginning at 7:30 p.m. I expect to see all you Monday Morning Quarterbacks there ready to explain how you'll fix the entire county fire service like you claim you can on here.

The Westchester Fire Advisory Board is having a quarterly meeting tonight at 4 Dana Road, Valhalla, NY beginning at 7:30 p.m. I expect to see all you Monday Morning Quarterbacks there ready to explain how you'll fix the entire county fire service like you claim you can on here.

The Westchester Fire Advisory Board is having a quarterly meeting tonight at 4 Dana Road, Valhalla, NY beginning at 7:30 p.m. I expect to see all you Monday Morning Quarterbacks there ready to explain how you'll fix the entire county fire service like you claim you can on here.

 
 "babhits16", I couldn't tell you the call volume of the Rye Brook FD. But I sure think you told a great story in your post above.
 
 I must also agree with you that there are many volunteer firefighters that do a GREAT JOB. I give them credit for what they do. I have many friends, basically throughout the entire country, who are volunteer firefighters. Some have been career firefighters who I can only dream or wish that I had one tenth their firefighting and rescue experience. I have one volunteer firefighter/chief friend who owns a major insurance company, another who is an oral surgeon, another a retired U.S. Army Colonel, an accountant, a retired Con Ed supervisor responsible for the entire Westchester County area, a plumber and it goes on and on.
 
 These guys are GREAT people and their goal is to just go out there and help their communities and the people within them. They also show me a great amount of respect towards career firefighters and I myself, have the same degree of respect for them in what they do.
 
  Then I read here of a group of volunteer firefighters, led by a guy named Chief Quinn in Port Chester. This reminds me of the War Zone where I was a career firefighter. Years and years of battling over a thing called "the fire service". Where we are all supposed to do basically the same job. But where the term "Brotherhood" has been replaced with the term "Battlehood". Where are group of volunteer firefighters, led by some very jealous fire chiefs, had recently proposed the elimination of a 3 man career engine company, a fourth firefighter position in one of the busier engine companies, and eliminate four battalion chiefs positions for a total of 16 firefighter positions to be eliminated. These proposals were brought on by some of the same individuals who I know, took that same career firefighter test (in some cases several times), but were never successful in getting that job. So I guess the thinking must be, "if they can't have it, then nobody else should have it".
 
  I certainly wish all the best to those PCFD8 group of guys. Nothing would make my day better than for me to read on here that they win their lawsuit and all are hired elsewhere to work as career firefighters in a community where they will be much more appreciated for the job they do.
 
 As for the younger members of those fire departments in Port Chester who have a goal to become a career firefighter, "don't forget to give FULL credit to your fire commanders for just cutting your chances even more of reaching your lifetime goal". Maybe they couldn't get the job, but they shouldn't have cut your chances for what you wanted.

In 1975 I took the test for Bridgeport. Didn't get the job because I didn't look the way they wanted me too. Basically I didn't get it because of Affirmative Action. Yet I grew up in the same neighborhood and went to the same schools as some of those that did get it.
 
Shortly after I got a job as a firefighter in another smaller Connecticut city. Where I spent 30 years on the job, 13 of which as an officer. 
 
Later one of the affirmative action candidates was arrested for driving a get away car in a murder. Others got two years back pay and benefits after winning their court case. Some worked the job for two or three months, took all that back pay and quit the job never to be seen again. 
 
Hartford has had similar cases. What is really sad is the decent people who earned these jobs, some who would have easily gotten them without putting affirmative action to work for them. 

Already have a fire job, not leaving to go to a city who's mayor is more concerned about his political career and would sell out his city to get a chance at the state house. 
 
My concern is the degradation of standards in the fire service in the interest of diversity. I don't know if you could say the hiring process have gone well if it leads to hiring firefighters who ...
Get arrested for child abuse http://fox61.com/2016/04/19/female-hartford-firefighter-arrested-for-assaulting-her-child-over-2-years/
 
Assault fellow officers on the fireground http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/troubleshooters/Hartford-Firefighter-Arrested-Confrontation-Lieutenant-Patterson-Dalton-323005331.html
 
Act recklessly with firearms http://www.courant.com/breaking-news/hc-hartford-firefighter-arrested-1204-20141203-story.html
 
Are forced to resign after FOUR DUI arrests http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Hartford-Firefighter-on-Leave-After-Driving-Under-Influence-Arrest--289584071.html
 
Operate "drug factories" selling coke and ecstasy!!! http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Hartford-Firefighter-Charged-With-Running-Drug-Factory-164923516.html
 
These are just the first  stories from the past few years that pop up in a quick Google search. Are you seeing this kind of criminal behavior in such numbers in departments like  Greenwich, Norwalk or anywhere in Westchester (besides cities that hire only residents to promote diversity)? No, you're seeing this is Hartford, in Bridgeport, and New Haven. Cities that dumb down tests and give city residents enormous legs up on the test. 
 
Even if Hartford had no residency preference I wouldn't be taking this test, so that's not what matters to me. What infuriates me about this is seeing the fire service dumbed down to the point that criminals who can barely read or write their own names are being handed jobs, while guys from out of town who actually want the job and would work hard don't get a chance. 

 
http://www.recordonline.com/article/20160804/NEWS/160809712

I gotta say my favorite is this tribute to "salvage and overhaul". http://www.blackhelmetapparel.com/product.php?id=Salvage and Overhaul Firefighter T-shirt&nosto=pagetemplate-nosto-1
 
I can't believe people buy this stuff, save some time and just flush your money directly into the toilet and cut out the middle man.

I gotta say my favorite is this tribute to "salvage and overhaul". http://www.blackhelmetapparel.com/product.php?id=Salvage and Overhaul Firefighter T-shirt&nosto=pagetemplate-nosto-1
 
I can't believe people buy this stuff, save some time and just flush your money directly into the toilet and cut out the middle man.

I gotta say my favorite is this tribute to "salvage and overhaul". http://www.blackhelmetapparel.com/product.php?id=Salvage and Overhaul Firefighter T-shirt&nosto=pagetemplate-nosto-1
 
I can't believe people buy this stuff, save some time and just flush your money directly into the toilet and cut out the middle man.

Don't really think this is the right place to spread a rumor about 18 people losing their livelihoods. If you're someone who'd be directly affected by this I'd imagine you'd have a better source than this website. If this post was about my department I sure wouldn't want to hear about it here first. 
 
I understand the original poster is just looking for info but this isn't the right place. If it's true it'll come out and we'll all hear about it soon enough, if it's false then we're just causing people to worry over nothing. 

Don't really think this is the right place to spread a rumor about 18 people losing their livelihoods. If you're someone who'd be directly affected by this I'd imagine you'd have a better source than this website. If this post was about my department I sure wouldn't want to hear about it here first. 
 
I understand the original poster is just looking for info but this isn't the right place. If it's true it'll come out and we'll all hear about it soon enough, if it's false then we're just causing people to worry over nothing. 

Don't really think this is the right place to spread a rumor about 18 people losing their livelihoods. If you're someone who'd be directly affected by this I'd imagine you'd have a better source than this website. If this post was about my department I sure wouldn't want to hear about it here first. 
 
I understand the original poster is just looking for info but this isn't the right place. If it's true it'll come out and we'll all hear about it soon enough, if it's false then we're just causing people to worry over nothing. 

Date: 07/19/16
Time: 1651hrs
Location: 1st & Dubois St. Box 31-20
District: City of Newburgh
Battalion:
Channel: NFD
Weather: Clear/Warm
Units: NFD Car-4, E1, E3, T1, E10, T10, NFD FI's, Vails Gate (FAST), West Point (Truck), City of Beacon (Truck), Castle Point (Engine), Middle Hope (Truck), Good Will (Engine), New Windsor (Engine), 36-1, C/NPD, MLSS
Writer: BFD1054
Description: 3rd Alarm Structure Fire
1651hrs-NFD Dispatch sounding the alarm of fire, DuBois St IAO of 1st St. Box 31-20
 
1653hrs-Car4 o/s with a 4 story ordinary smoke showing.
 
1654hrs-Command requesting 2nd Alarm, fire in the basement.
 
1655hrs-T1 officer advising heavy fire in the rear.
 
1657hrs-OC911 dispatching 2nd Alarm companies.
 
*3rd Alarm transmitted shortly thereafter.
 
**I apologize for the limited info
 
Links to 1stResponder News;
 
http://www.1strespondernews.com/webpages/news/displaynews.aspx?ID=d8a23abc-b65d-46ca-861a-86ec5b17c066
 
http://www.1strespondernews.com/webpages/news/displaynews.aspx?ID=2281ded2-fcd0-4b85-8b92-4200f7c34b01
 
Link to video from Hudson Valley News Network;
 
 
 
 
 
 

Don't really think this is the right place to spread a rumor about 18 people losing their livelihoods. If you're someone who'd be directly affected by this I'd imagine you'd have a better source than this website. If this post was about my department I sure wouldn't want to hear about it here first. 
 
I understand the original poster is just looking for info but this isn't the right place. If it's true it'll come out and we'll all hear about it soon enough, if it's false then we're just causing people to worry over nothing. 

This is only for the firefighter/medic position. I'm sure the requirement of being a medic seriously limits the number of applies to. From what I understand FF/PMs ride the emergency unit as opposed to an engine or truck. Maybe someone can fill us in on how it's exactly run.