somebuffyguy

Just curious, how many FD's hired off the open list last exam ? I only know of Scarsdale and Hartsdale taking non-residents. $100 is a lot of money to be ignored for not being related to a Chief/ Commissioner.

The amount of money some guys have thrown away on exams over the years is brutal. That $100 fee isn't worth it in my book unless you have residency or a major hook somewhere. Good luck to those taking it!

Just curious, how many FD's hired off the open list last exam ? I only know of Scarsdale and Hartsdale taking non-residents. $100 is a lot of money to be ignored for not being related to a Chief/ Commissioner.

That's all well and good, but Westchester is too small and interdependent to just have everyone worry about themselves. When was the last time the was a fire (outside of the big cities) handled by one FD? We work and depend on our neighbors all the time, so there needs to be some consistency.

That's all well and good, but Westchester is too small and interdependent to just have everyone worry about themselves. When was the last time the was a fire (outside of the big cities) handled by one FD? We work and depend on our neighbors all the time, so there needs to be some consistency.

Care to give that another shot in English?

Here's the agility, it's essentially a modified CPAT but on air, and the time limit is how long you can last on your bottle.
http://emergencyservices.westchestergov.com/firefighter-1-update
Does anyone know the reason for not just going with the CPAT? Also at what point in the class will the agility be given?

Here's the agility, it's essentially a modified CPAT but on air, and the time limit is how long you can last on your bottle.
http://emergencyservices.westchestergov.com/firefighter-1-update
Does anyone know the reason for not just going with the CPAT? Also at what point in the class will the agility be given?

Nobody ever survived for long under water huh ? Depends what your definition of long is, but 20+ minutes is longer than most people would think.
Also as far as I know, many dive teams will stay in rescue mode for up to an hour before going to recovery due to the possibility of survival.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/boy-survives-25-minutes-underwater-rescued-12-year/story?id=14271832
http://www.today.com/id/36190954/ns/today-today_news/t/miracle-boy-ok-after-minutes-underwater/#.VHT5jMmK1mg
http://www.12newsnow.com/story/16200067/boy-2-survives-30-minutes-underwater
http://www.scotsman.com/news/world/miracle-boys-defy-death-under-the-ice-1-1299632
They're not dead till they're warm and dead !

As much as it may seem like a joke to you, people have survived surprisingly long times under cold water. So time still does count. Ever hear " They're not dead till they're warm and dead" ? Forget just dive teams, how about just water rescue teams in Northern Westchester? Remember the incident this August in Croton Falls when Yorktown took a 20 minute drive to the reservoir as the nearest water rescue unit ?
I don't have the exact numbers but I would bet money more people die in Northern Westchester in water incidents than in structure fires. As much as guys in the suburbs love to think we're in the city we're not. This isn't the Bronx with multiple structure fires a night, it's a rural/suburban area covered with bodies of water. It's a bit absurd to think in an area like this the nearest help for a drowning victim is 20+ minutes away.

It's probably a "large void" because as far as I know Yorktown and Continental Village are the only two left in northern Westchester. Yorktown basically covers from the Hudson to the Connecticut border.

One EMT ? So what does he do, sit and wait for another EMT to show up ?

I usually try not to be an online safety officer. I really don't care if I see a picture of a guy with his waist strap undone or something like that. But what's the deal with bearded firefighters wearing SCBAs ? I'm not talking about guys who forgot to shave in a day or two, I mean guys growing out full beards. I had to have seen at least four guys with full facial hair, my favorite has to be the EMS lieutenant with his Lincoln mutton chops. Come on guys, buy a razor.

One EMT ? So what does he do, sit and wait for another EMT to show up ?

One EMT ? So what does he do, sit and wait for another EMT to show up ?

One EMT ? So what does he do, sit and wait for another EMT to show up ?

One EMT ? So what does he do, sit and wait for another EMT to show up ?

Any idea if Port Chester is moving beyond their residency list ? As I understand it they reached the 75's on the list with their last hirings. Are there many more left on their list ?

Word on the street is Peekskill has sent out letters. However, canvassing letters does not necessarily equal hirings.

What are you talking about!? This isn't an issue of 5 points! This is an issue of denying someone a job without cause. This ALSO isn't about anyone else. This is a guy who had every endorsement from the mayor to the police chief and down to the citizens of the village. The outward appearance here is that he was denied because of petty political infighting. The veteran aspect helps draw positive attention to this issue, positive for the candidate and I'm glad he's using it to his advantage.
Could there be a valid reason for passing this guy over, legally? Sure could. If there is, then why don't these 4 trustees just come out and say it. From the outside looking in, the silence is awful telling.
Lastly, on a personal note....your comments thus far are quite telling of your character. Degradation of the commitments of those who serve in the military is disgusting. Self gratification? I work with guys who have multiple purple hearts....and the scars to prove it. Come on over and tell them about their self importance and see how long you stay standing on your two feet. Standing in the line of fire, taking bullets and shrapnel and living with the fear of death everyday seems like an awful lot to do for 5 measly points on some civil service test. Although....in your eyes, they don't deserve special recognition. Well, keep enjoying football Sunday and holiday's with your family....don't worry, no one had to sacrifice for you to have those comforts.
Veterans working on Wall Street....guess what? You put military service on an application for ANY job and you get a leg up....deservedly so.
Love how you threw a jab at Volly's in there too. That is a SYSTEM with some problems, but filled with a majority a well intention'd people.
Enjoy your comforts, paycheck and straight 8's in Eastchester.
Love,
The U.S. Armed Forces
Vet credits are actually given to anyone who serves in any capacity. Obviously, there is a differentiation of an additional 5 points for those who are combat wounded.

I don't think you are fully comprehending what the situation appears to be.
I can't speak to the specific civil service laws involved in this situation, but yes, typically they allow for the selection of one of the top 3 candidates on the established civil service eligibility list. In smaller communities, that selection is typically made by the Mayor or City Manager type position depending on the political structure in place. I get the impression that their system is set up in a fashion that the board votes to confirm the Mayor's selection.
In this situation, it appears that this person was #1 on the eligibility list and WAS selected from among those 3 top candidates. He was NOT simply passed over for selection in favor of one of the other two top candidates. Civil Service testing is typically conducted by a Civil Service Commission which typically does not include local government officials such as Mayors and City Council/Board members. As such, they would not know if he had a "bad interview" unless they somehow "score" the interviews, but if they score the interviews, then it really isn't an interview, it's an oral test.
Since it appears that the board votes to approve the Mayor's selections from the Civil Service list, the board's involvement in the hiring process may actually take place beyond the confines of the Civil Service system. If that's the case, then this certainly wouldn't be a matter of being passed over in the pick one of the top 3 phase, but rather a deliberate decision to deny employment and he would have a pretty good case.
The enactment of Civil Service laws were a direct result of this kind of government misconduct in the hiring process. The reason they didn't approve his selection is so blatantly obvious, that even a blind person could see it.

What makes him "so diff" as you put it is that this does not appear to be a case of just not doing good enough in the testing process as he apparently was #1 on the list, selected by the Mayor, was endorsed by the Police Chief, supported by the community, but has a sister who is a board member that is not a political ally of the remainder of the board. Take the family relation out of the equation and unless the board is being mum about some sort of serious skeleton in his closet that nobody else appears to know about, this guy would've been unanimously approved.
This isn't the time to just "get over it", this is exactly the type of situation in which a lawsuit contesting the hiring process should be fired, unlike the numerous lawsuits filed on behalf of minorities that don't get hired claiming "racial discrimination" because they simply weren't prepared enough to score high enough on the tests to get hired.

Aside from the BS small town politics:What makes him different is that, HE SERVED HIS COUNTRY IN THE MILITARY, SO YES HE IS MORE SPECIAL. It's sad that people like you, with ideas like this who want to enjoy all the freedoms we are afforded, and the status this country has in the world, but don't want to appreciate the men and women who ensure that freedom. The veterans credit isn't awarded arbitrarily, it's points that are deserved and rightly so. Get over yourself and start appreciating the sacrifices some have made so you can live the beautiful, easy, free from fear life that we all enjoy because of their efforts.

From the WC mutual aid agreement :
Besides Yonkers and New Rochelle, name one department in the county that follows this. I'm also curious, has anyone ever filed a complaint regarding Mount Vernon's use of mutual aid as is stated in the agreement ?

Unprofessional would be department's not getting off of 46.26 when everyone else is on a trunk frequency, or there's is an actual run or a job ongoing or getting on the radio to give your noon time test when companies are currently on a run or just finishing up. This guy just decided to man up and say what a lot of us are already thinking!