Bottom of Da Hill

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  1. Posted

    Yes but do they have the trained personnel available to operate all of that equipment that was purchased with our grant (read tax) money?

    If it sits there with no one to operate it, its useless

    If it responds, but with only a small % of the personnel needed to perform the mission, its useless

    and if it responds to incidents without being called, and ignores policies, procedures and ICS in general, because "nobody can stop us", its more than useless it is a danger to themselves, other responders and the community.

    man i love this guy so very true..........sounds like i made this post myself...

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    What should they respond in? The truck carries equipment for the incidents and purposes described below, and is critical to the response of the SRT.

    well between them and DES there,s alot of trucks to go around?

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    It's the same location, it's located in different wings in one building, but it is not the same thing by any means. 60 control is staffed by their own dispatchers and handles dispatch and communications, no training. The Westchester County Fire Training Center is staffed by their own staff and instructors and handles the training needs of the county. They are two completely separate entities, they don't cross staff or hate responsibilities. It's a good idea to get your facts straight before you open up your mouth, especially when you want to keep insisting you're right when you're actually dead wrong.

    really two separate entities?same location sorry if it bothers you. all under one roof or wing or what ever you want to call it.

  9. Posted

    They quit! Why?

    1. Last time I checked this was a team sport! The success of an operation cannot and should not be determined by the actions of the few (or the individual). When a member constantly trains and studies, but is surrounded by novices who can't perform simple functions, he (or she) will be discouraged. It is hard to be proud of or confident in your organization or your team when you know exactly what needs to be done on the fireground and are prepared for every emergency, but everyone else doesn't. It is discouraging to consistently do your job exactly by the book and have every operation fail because no one else read it.

    2. It is dangerous! To be a knowledgeable and aggressive firefighter is a good thing. However, when an individual is experience and talented but surrounded by novices, who can you count on to come to your aid when the s*** hits the fan. Instead, it hampers your ability because you have to be overcautious since no one else can keep up (or get scared) and no one can get you out should you get into trouble (it happens to the best of us!).

    3. Frustration! It gets tiring to know exactly what needs to be done to resolve and incident but have other people consistently screw things up! You get tired of having ceilings pulled down on you; you get tired of waiting for water because your CPO can figure out how to pull the right levers; you get tired of having rooms flash when you are in them because your outside vent team doesn't know how to properly vent horizontally and introduces too much oxygen to the fire; you get tired of having no back-up man on the knob because the guy behind you couldn't find his gloves; you get tired of telling your crew to pull a 2 1/2 with a smooth bore and getting an 1 3/4 with a fog tip! After a while you just realize that they don't care and that you don't want to be a part of them anymore.

    4. Ostracization! When you are part of the small minority that actually cares about training, firematics, and performace, but 46 of the other 50 members of the organization only care about parades and pancake dinners, then you become the a******! You are the guy who is always critiquing everyone; you are the guy who is always telling people how to improve; and you are the guy who takes things too seriously (after all "We are just volunteers!"). So even though all you want to do is teach others and improve the effectiveness of your department, you are always the a****** who is ruining the fork and knifers' good time and telling them that they are doing it wrong! So instead of moving up because you are the most well-trained, you are voted out and replaced with the head clown in the popularity contest that they call an election because everyone loves him!

    Thats why they quit...

    its funny that guys that like this work at 60 control as trainers and like bashing the the volunteers they get paid to train?thats a big problem with 60 control and hurts the fire service.this needs to stop,

  10. Posted

    can you guys stop the BS with volunteers VS paid grow up! it should not be on this site! its nice to be nice.i can go take pics to of paid depts at fires making mistakes also but i am above that its kid s***!we all have a job to do as long as no one gets hurt and every one is safe at the end of the day then thats a good day paid or volunteer! the fire service started out as volunteer service,paid or volunteer god bless us all.

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  13. Posted

    he really changed the way yonkers fought fires they ben doing a hell of a job over there and cut down on the amount of FF.s getting hurt.sad to see him go the city of yonkers really needed a good man like him he didnt take any BS.but glad to see him back home in the FDNY.mayor spano will def hire another good man outside of YFD.

  18. Posted

    Thanks.

    The only way that type of freelancing stops is with strong Incident command which is almost non-existing in Westchester. Once the lead agency gets things established at an incident, Set up a hot zone, do a PAR check and if personnel are in the zone that do not belong ask them to go back to staging. If that does not resolve it ask for a supervisor from their agency to respond to the CP.

    then we get the this is a crime scene and we our now taken over.but i agree with you and a great job was done in rye trench call.a strong incident command system and team work go,s along way,

  22. Posted

    When Will The Westchester 2000 Plan Be Implemented To Form A Westchester County Fire Department And Avoid Duplication Of Services, Too Many Officer Positions And Outrageous Fire Department Budgets ????

    duplication of services is being done rite now with the fire service and county PD SOD team.what a waste of tax payers money.what about the PD budgets?

  23. Posted

    Current New York State Law prohibits the establishment of a County Run Fire Department. However, this is not to say that eventually, if there is enough political pressure coming from the tax payers into their Assemblyman/Women, State Senator, Mayors, Adminstrators, etc,etc, that the current law prohibiting this could be over-turned and changed to allow a County Run Department. Many other areas in the country are doing this, to improve upon resources and manpower and to improve response times.(The biggest hurdle that would have to be overcome is the pressure from the Fire Officers Unions, who no doubt will not be in favor of this, While I would not foresee a reduction in firefighters, you could see a reduction in Officers, if the Westchester 2000 Plan be put into place and you have a Countywide Fire Department (which if implemented should be across the entire county and not just sections of the county).

    the way its going now the county police will be doing it all,