Task Force 7

Got it. I didn't know where the Squads had been moved to. I know I would see Squad 7 all the time when I use to go down there before Station 7 opened. Then when I was down there in November 2009, Station 7 was open and I saw the Engine running Code.

If were up to me, I would classify the new trucks as Brush trucks, if they intend to keep the two Squads classify them as Squads, and if the new Chief buys a new rig for the TRT, classify it as a Rescue.

BTW...Great job on the photos Seth!

Yes, I know how bad the grass fire season is. It's already been crazy up here. Well more like Wise, and Jack county just to the North, Northwest of me.

Seth,

Is this really a Rescue? It looks like a Brush Truck to me. Doesn't Round Rock have a Seagrave Engine that they converted into a Rescue that I believe runs out of Station 2 in downtown? Also do they still have the Squads that they purchased from Austin after Austin decided not to use them? I recall they had one running as Squad 7 a few years ago before they built Station 7 on Oakmont and University. The Squad was stationed inside a warehouse that is like a block South of where Station 7 is now. Of course this was right when the Outlet Mall opened, and Ikea was still under construction as was Scott White Medical Center.

I have never heard the "K" used down here in Texas. There is/was a dispatcher for Dallas Fire Rescue that when a structure fire would be called in, he would say..."Let's Roll Now! or Let's Roll-em'" then say something like Bat. 2 take the box! As for radio phrases, I'm guilty of saying "be advised".

Here is how Arlington, Texas dispatches.

Tones go off. Engine 1, Engine 3, Engine 4, Quint 1, Bat. 1 respond channel 1B (boy)structure fire Box 123. Mapsco 80 R(robert) 123 Main St., 123 Main St. cross street Center St. time out 1300 hours!

Hi guys and gals. My name is Peter from Bedford, Texas. I am currently working as a Receiving Manager for Office Depot. I use to be a Volunteer Firefighter for the Pantego Fire Dept. here in the Fort Worth area.

I'm currently certified as a FF/EMT-Basic and was a Part-time FF/EMT from Sept. 02-Sept. 03. I went to a Fire Academy that was run by The Colony, Texas Fire Dept. and ran calls with The Colony while in Rookie School.

I'm currently looking to get hired as a full-time FF/EMT somewhere here in Texas. I'm also planning to go back to school in the fall to get my Associates Degree in Fire Investigation.

In my spare time I like to photograph fire apparatus. (Pierce being my favorite.) In my profile you will find a link to my website. I have over a hundred photos from throughout Texas, and the Southern U.S. Some of the photos were sent to me by members of my site, and those photos have been credited to those members.

I'm also a die-hard Dallas Cowboys fan!!

Well I did this way back about 7 years ago. Then I left this board for about 6 years and recently started reading this board again. I still work for Office Depot as a Dept. Manager. I never went back to school like I had mentioned 7 years ago. Three months after joining this site, I met my wife, and instead got married, moved to the Westside of Fort Worth. I went back to being a Volunteer FF for Westworth Village from October 2004-January 2007. My MSN website no longer exist thanks to MSN for that! I still take photos of fire apparatus when I go on vacation. Just not much around the D/FW area like I use to.

Awesome shots, Pete! Where did you photgraph these?

Also, Dallas is getting back into the rearmount arena as well.

Hope to get back up that way soon...

Seth, these pictures were taken inside the Dallas Convention Center. You're correct Dallas did run alot of midmount ladders in the 80's. Now they're switching back to the rear mounts. Altough they're finding out that some of the fire stations are too small to accomadate the larger trucks. The tillers are mostly being used in the downtown area as well as in North Dallas where traffic is congested around LBJ Freeway. Over the last five years or so, Dallas has been replacing the older stations built in the 40's and 50's with new larger state of the art facilities that can accomadate the newer larger apparatus. Not too mention, but some of the old fire stations here in Dallas you would not want to live in for 24 hours.

BC 6 has a nice ride...I like the idea of the light tower. What all is carried in the back besides command stuff?

I could be completely wrong on this, but I believe the Ford F-Series BC is part of the Dallas Fire Rescue High Angle/ Technical Rescue Team. Dallas has two stations that do this. One is Station 19 where that Tower Ladder is from on the Eastside of downtown, and the other is Station 15 in Oak Cliff South of downtown. As to what they carry, I couldn't tell you. Sorry! They didn't have anything back there when I took this picture that I can remember.

Here's one of the first Tower Ladders in Dallas. Dallas has been a all Spartan Quality, Spartan Crimson dept. since the early 80's. They've even gone back to Tillers in some parts of the city.

Engine 33

B.C. 6

B.C. 9

All photos are property of Task Force 7.

When I was a Volunteer FF the department I was with was not trained in water rescue. If needed, we would notify the Fort Worth Fire Dept. who has two Swift Water Rescue Teams on duty at all times.

It's mainly because I have no Aerialscope's or even midmounts to love down here, lol! Thanks Seagrave for never sending a demo...some firefighters don't even know about Aerialscopes! Sutphen has really improved in recent years and the SPH100 is a shining example of that. And Sutphen's loyal and repeat customers says a lot. Do you guys have Sutphens in DFW?

Seth, yes we have Sutphens. Grand Prairie, Bedford, and Euless have some aerial towers. Southlake has one, and Coppell did, but I believe they're all Pierce now. Seagrave for what ever reason is not popular in Texas anymore. Borger, Texas up in the Panhandle has the only Seagrave MII that I know of in the whole state. Bridgeport which is about 45 minutes from me has a Aerialscope.

Nice looking Truck!

X635, I forgot how much you loved the Sutphen aerial towers. Once I saw your post it made me remember the pictures I had posted of some from the Mid Cities here in D/FW on the ol' board.

Okay in my last post I gave a quote from a study done, but now I'm chiming in. Are Police Officers different here in Texas from those of NY? Yes, they are. But then Police in Los Angeles do things different from us. Seth, take a look where you live in Round Rock. Do your Officers walk a beat like those in NYC? No they don't. They drive around in their patrol car, or maybe ride a bike around the Outlet Mall. Does that make it right or wrong? No. We all do things differently. What works in Texas may not work in New York, Florida, California, etc. However in the end we all get the job done. My father walked a beat in Milwaukee when he was a cop. The people got to know him, because they saw him every day walking the streets. When we moved to Phoenix he drove around all day in his patrol car. The people of Phoenix didn't know him from Joe Q Public. But that's what worked for the Phoenix PD. Do I personally know my Police Officers that patrol Fort Worth. I only know 2! That's because I took the time to go to a neighborhood crime watch meeting to meet them. Do I see them on the streets. From time to time I see them drive by along with all the other Officers that patrol the Westside. What matters to me is when I dial 911 someone responds in timely manner. I don't care how they get there, or how they do it. Just as long as they help me when I need them. If every FD, PD, EMS were the same, we would all be driving the exact same patrol cars, fire trucks, and ambulances.

Everyone have a GREAT DAY and be safe out there!!

A study was done on the different styles of police work back in 1968. Here is the quote from the study.

Given the broad mandates of police work, and yet having limited resources, police administrators must develop policies to prioritize and focus their activities. Some of the more controversial policies restrict, or even forbid, high-speed vehicular pursuits.

Three styles of policing develop from a jurisdiction’s socioeconomic characteristics, government organization, and choice of police administrators. According to a study by James Q. Wilson (”Varieties of Police Behavior”, 1968, 1978, Harvard University Press), there were three distinct types of policing developed in his study of eight communities. Each style emphasized different police functions, and were linked to specific characteristics of the community the department served. (Wilson’s field of study was in the United States, and it is not clear if similar studies have been done for other countries with different governmental organization and laws.)

Watchman. Emphasizes maintaining order, usually found in communities with a declining industrial base, and a blue-collar, mixed ethnic/racial population. This form of policing is implicitly less pro-active than other styles, and certain offenses may be “overlooked” on a variety of social, legal, and cultural grounds, as long as the public order is maintained. Smith and Cole comment the broad discretion exercised in this style of policing can result in charges of discrimination, when it appears police treatment of different groups results in the perception that some groups get better treatment than others;

Legalistic. Emphasizes law enforcement and professionalism. This is usually found in reform-minded cities, with mixed socioeconomic composition. Officers are expected to generate a large number of arrests and citations, and act as if there were a single community standard for conduct, rather than different standards for different groups. However, the fact that certain groups are more likely to have law enforcement contact means this strict enforcement of laws may seem overly harsh on certain groups;

Service. Emphasizes the service functions of police work, usually found in suburban, middle-class communities where residents demand individual treatment. Police in homogeneous communities can view their work as protecting their citizens against “outsiders”, with frequent but often-informal interventions against community members. The uniform make-up of the community means crimes are usually more obvious, and therefore less frequent, leaving police free to deal with service functions, and traffic control.

Wilson’s study applies to police behavior for the entire department, over time. At any given time, police officers may be acting in a watchman, service, or legalistic function by nature of what they’re doing at the time, or temperament, or mood. Individual officers may also be inclined to one style or another, regardless of supervisor or citizen demands.

What is a EMS flycar?

It's not something that were use to down here in Dallas Fort Worth. However the week leading up to the Super Bowl this year we had one of the worst winter storms in 20 years. Ice came crashing down off of Cowboys Stadium injuring about 6 NFL workers a few days before the Super Bowl. Arlington Fire Rescue had to spend a day trying to break the rest of the ice off the roof of the stadium so it would be safe came Super Bowl Sunday.

http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/news/020411-Falling-Ice-at-Cowboys-Stadium

I hope the Chicago Medic makes a speedy recovery.

She sure looks pretty!!

Those look really sharp!

Williamson County EMS is a dual-paramedic system and provides 911 services to the entire 1,100 square miles of the county including all incorporated cities within. Williamson County EMS currently operates 15 front line ambulances, and 8 in their reserve fleet. Their ambulances are stationed out of EMS stand-alone stations or area Fire Department’s stations. EMS calls per year are averaging just under 30,000, with a slight increase each year. Their crews work a 24hour on, 48hr off rotating schedule of A, B, & C shifts.Williamson County Ambulances are staffed with two paramedics who have undergone extensive training and continuing education to ensure the care provided to their patients is not only competent but outstanding.

Arlington, Texas

This is Quint 8 (first due to Cowboys Stadium) It's a 2009 Spartan Gladiator/Smeal 105' aerial. The Ford is Rescue 8 which is the Techinical/High Angle Rescue Team.

Quint 6 (Part of the Hazmat Team) 2008 Spartan Gladiator/Crimson 103' aerial.

Engine 6 2000 Spartan Gladiator/ Quality

All photos were taken by Task Force 7.

I'm not sure what you mean by that? Have you filled up your car in Round Rock recently and paid the sales tax?

Our economy in the Austin area is largely technology based. Apple, Freescale Semiconductor, Google, Facebook, IBM, Motorola, etc are some of the companies that haveo ffices here. Dell's world headquarters is located here. The computer on Jeporady, "Watson", was built here,

We are also the State Capital and home to the University Of Austin. And the famous "6th Street".

And we constantly rank #1 in a variety of lifestyle and business surveys.

Seth, I'm sorry, but I have to correct you on one thing sir. Austin is the home of the University of TEXAS.

WOW!! The SRT8 is very sharp looking.

That's a very interesting set up.

Here's a shot of Engine 1 from the right side.

Here's Norton Tanker 2618 supplying water in Barberton.

Here's Norton Engine 2623 on scene in Barberton.

(Right after taking these photos the Police removed everyone from the area.)

Cuyahoga Falls Engine 1 actually clears the door to fit in the bay. Talk about a tight fit.

There's actually about 12 inches or so from the top of the Engine to the top of the door. I have another picture some where that shows the rig from the right side, and you can see the height clearance better.

Has for why Barberton went with a purple Sutphen....I have no idea. They have two white over red E-One Quints. (Ladder 1 that I posted above and a 75' single rear axle also.) The other apparatus that I saw at Station 1 downtown I believe was white and yellow if I remember correctly. Barberton is a paid FD with 46 full-time firefighters. They operate out of two stations. It's part of the Dept. of Public Safety. Ladder 1 was leaving Station 2, and the purple Engine and the 75' Quint (that's not posted above) were fighting a fire when I took those photos.

Barberton, Ohio Purple Engine

Barberton, Ohio Ladder 1

Cleveland, Ohio (Ladder 4 filling in at Station 1)

Columbus, Ohio Engine 6

Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio Engine 1

Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio Ladder 5

All photos were taken by Task Force 7 back in August of 2010.

I'm not 100% sure, but I think MedStar here in Fort Worth as been remounting their modules onto new Chevy's, and adding chevrons on the rear.

The Mack Squrt is a reserve unit. I could be wrong but I believe the front-line rig it was replacing is a Seagrave Squrt. As for the TDA it's a 2009 Seagrave MII with a 100' aerial.