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Huh, here we have a Command SUV that is assigned to the ranking officer (Fire Chief). It has numerous pieces of equipment and information stored in it that could be very useful at most incidents, therefore it is always made available when the ranking officer is not to be available. If your Chief's don't give up the buggy, how do they justify the costs of all the equipment carried? At that point it's just a perk of the "job".

I find it pathetic when any municipal or government employee expects preferential treatment. If these are your friends, co-workers or fellow employees why would you expect them to not do their job when you make a mistake? If you get a pass, smile, privately thank the officer and then STFU about it. The more people hear about professional courtesy, the less professional the people involved look. If you get a ticket, smile, thank the officer for doing their job, STFU about it and take your lumps like anyone else.

I am so happy that the truth came out. So often our police officers are falsely accused of wrong doings. Without those cameras, most of us, including myself, would take the word of what we would consider two highly respected and trusted individuals.
A firefighter, especially a fire captain, is expected to do the right thing. He is assigned to set the standards and be a role model to younger firefighters. He is to lead by example.
Firefighters and Police Officers work side by side many times together in life threatening situations. They attend LODD funerals for each other. There is probably no other group of employees that face more danger in our society today as those police officers and firefighters who we all depend on. There is an Unwritten Brotherhood that is shared by each and every one.
As a retired fire officer myself, I find this incident embarrassing to ALL Fire Fighters. One of our Brother Firefighters just dragged ALL of us through the mud. When you wear that badge and uniform, what you do, both on and off duty, represents everyone of us. You are held to a much higher standard than most other citizens.
So if you make your career as a firefighter, remember whether you are in Georgia, New York City or any place else, what you do on or off duty reflects on ALL of Us.
And by the way, for those police officers that are out there "doing it everyday and every night", I have nothing but the highest respect for you. I just Thank the Good Lord you are there.

I find it pathetic when any municipal or government employee expects preferential treatment. If these are your friends, co-workers or fellow employees why would you expect them to not do their job when you make a mistake? If you get a pass, smile, privately thank the officer and then STFU about it. The more people hear about professional courtesy, the less professional the people involved look. If you get a ticket, smile, thank the officer for doing their job, STFU about it and take your lumps like anyone else.

Terrible conduct from sworn Fire Officers, if the cop didn't have the footage, he would have had two "professionals" from another uniformed service successfully jam him up. All over a rat expired plate ticket.
Hopefully Dr.Alexander does the right thing

Huh, here we have a Command SUV that is assigned to the ranking officer (Fire Chief). It has numerous pieces of equipment and information stored in it that could be very useful at most incidents, therefore it is always made available when the ranking officer is not to be available. If your Chief's don't give up the buggy, how do they justify the costs of all the equipment carried? At that point it's just a perk of the "job".

Huh, here we have a Command SUV that is assigned to the ranking officer (Fire Chief). It has numerous pieces of equipment and information stored in it that could be very useful at most incidents, therefore it is always made available when the ranking officer is not to be available. If your Chief's don't give up the buggy, how do they justify the costs of all the equipment carried? At that point it's just a perk of the "job".

Huh, here we have a Command SUV that is assigned to the ranking officer (Fire Chief). It has numerous pieces of equipment and information stored in it that could be very useful at most incidents, therefore it is always made available when the ranking officer is not to be available. If your Chief's don't give up the buggy, how do they justify the costs of all the equipment carried? At that point it's just a perk of the "job".

Our Chiefs generally give their cars to Deputy Chiefs when they know they'll be out of service / out of town for more then 24 hours.
Chief's vehicles should be considered a department vehicle and if the person they are usually assigned to isn't going to be around (work, vacation, illness, etc.) and isn't able to do their duties, then it should be given to someone who can use it.

$5000 for 3000 SF isn't bad in the market, that's only $1.66 sqft. Which in our neck of the woods would be a great deal. Of course the bigger the house the better the per square foot price and the pipe and heads are the only added cost the basic system controls we all have to start with.
In my eye if you're building a 3000 sqft house you can't argue the expense. Those people trying to erect 900 sqft homes on an FHA loan have a little more to complain about, but at some point people will not make the right decision when their financial situation is dire. Look at the people who choose cigarettes over their meds, or take the batteries from the smoke detectors to power the big screen TV remote. We see people put themselves and their families at much greater risk than others due to financial issues, there has to be a minimum established, and all the current codes say that includes residential sprinklers.

A big selling point for home fire sprinklers. We can't afford to let fires grow to the point where we need to escape them, as too often there won't be enough time to wake, orient and escape. Nothing we can do about existing homes, but it's time to start getting behind (or under) sprinklers.

A big selling point for home fire sprinklers. We can't afford to let fires grow to the point where we need to escape them, as too often there won't be enough time to wake, orient and escape. Nothing we can do about existing homes, but it's time to start getting behind (or under) sprinklers.

I thought the video was decent, but I had to chuckle some at the "reassuring" comment towards the end that was supposedly from the home builders association about how "safe" homes are built these days. Pretty ironic considering the prevalence of light weight construction methods these days that do not hold up well under fire conditions and the extent to which they lobby hard against the very thing that could be the most beneficial in them in the event of a fire - residential sprinklers!

One thing I found interesting is that their goal is for the care provider to be able to remain seated and belted while providing care, yet they also incorporate the ability to transport a second patient in a manor which pretty much precludes the ability to do that for that patient.
To me, there seems to be an inherent conflict between the two and that means we should probably reexamine whether or not we should even be attempting to transport a second patient under those conditions.

I asked our ambulance builder for seats like that about six years ago. Looked at me like I had two heads.
We did a VERY similar design and after a few tweaks, it's worked well for us. Goal was to have most used equipment within arms reach, to limit getting up and out of your seat.

Interesting. Not sure how revolutionary they are, as we have two (2009/2013) and just awarded the bid on a third that have significantly the same patient compartment. But, it would be nice to see more of these becoming the norm, if anything it should drive the cost down while improving safety. Seems our "custom" specs command premium pricing to account for "engineering".

To me, it's all about options and flexibility. Know your tools, train with them and use what will work best for the given scenario.
You're lost and stumbling through some smoke, low on air. Another crew finds you and can walk you out. You run out of air before you make it out. Would you rather share air and walk out or take in smoke and have to be dragged? That's a no brainer. Plug in and walk out together. Use the EBSS. If you don't spec it, you can't use it.
Should the EBSS be used by RIT teams as the first line? Nope. Does having it increase your options. Yup. Be smart people.

This is what is wrong with the step child of emergency services. When any municipality puts EMS out to bid you do not get stability in service. Over the years every system goes through a cycle. The lowest bidder. Now most of the current EMS employees of TransCare NR will be looking to switch over to Empress. Thus losing seniority and pay grade. This is no way to maintain quality EMS personal.
EMS must be part of the municipality just as Police and Fire is. EMS must be the third service.

There will never be stability in EMS when there is a profit to be made.

So the option is to let your "buddy" suffer until he goes unconscious then drag him to safety? We share masks as a way of ensuring anyone, firefighter or civilian has fresh air to breathe, now we're so self centered we won't share our air? What else won't you do for your fellow firefighters? I hope I'm being over the top, but step back and read what some of you have written.

So the option is to let your "buddy" suffer until he goes unconscious then drag him to safety? We share masks as a way of ensuring anyone, firefighter or civilian has fresh air to breathe, now we're so self centered we won't share our air? What else won't you do for your fellow firefighters? I hope I'm being over the top, but step back and read what some of you have written.

That's a pretty harsh view to take. We all take risks every day, some more than others. Would your family rather you not come home someday due to an apparatus accident? Or should we all travel with the flow of traffic? You can get yourself so worked up over the law and your own safety that the difference between a firefighter and a mailman is the uniform.
How about using common sense about when to breathe air. So don't mask up, but stay out of the smoke plume, maybe put the mask up to your face to take that quick peek, even mask up if you have to crawl in. But let's be realistic about air use. I'd bet some/many/mot subject themselves to greater risk dying from an OJI from failure to train than contracting cancer from limited smoke sxposure. Of course we cannot pinpoint cancer causes, so I guess proof would be hard to come by. Presumption of cancer is somewhat tough when we got guys like the chief here, smoking? Who'll prove which smoke caused his cancer?
We take risks, we should minimize risks wherever we can without sacrificing the principles of the job. While I'm with M'Ave, in not condemning these guys for lack of masks, I think they could have been better.

That's a pretty harsh view to take. We all take risks every day, some more than others. Would your family rather you not come home someday due to an apparatus accident? Or should we all travel with the flow of traffic? You can get yourself so worked up over the law and your own safety that the difference between a firefighter and a mailman is the uniform.
How about using common sense about when to breathe air. So don't mask up, but stay out of the smoke plume, maybe put the mask up to your face to take that quick peek, even mask up if you have to crawl in. But let's be realistic about air use. I'd bet some/many/mot subject themselves to greater risk dying from an OJI from failure to train than contracting cancer from limited smoke sxposure. Of course we cannot pinpoint cancer causes, so I guess proof would be hard to come by. Presumption of cancer is somewhat tough when we got guys like the chief here, smoking? Who'll prove which smoke caused his cancer?
We take risks, we should minimize risks wherever we can without sacrificing the principles of the job. While I'm with M'Ave, in not condemning these guys for lack of masks, I think they could have been better.

Interesting read, glad FF Dorner was able to walk away. Is it me or does it seem that a FD the size of Toledo could figure out a better shift assignment plan then have four FFers with less than 4 years on the job assigned to the same company? As I recall, one popular writer from Toledo a few years back published some ideas on search that basically had the searching crew doing search without any hand tools, as it sounds like was the case here? On re-read, it appears he had the irons, so? To that end Dorner notes he wished he'd brought a 4' hook to sound the floor. Unless their hooks are different than ours, I'd hope for a heavier tool to sound a floor, I wouldn't trust the weight of a hook, nevermind a 4 footer. He noted he had the irons, why not use the halligan to probe and sound ahead?

Interesting read, glad FF Dorner was able to walk away. Is it me or does it seem that a FD the size of Toledo could figure out a better shift assignment plan then have four FFers with less than 4 years on the job assigned to the same company? As I recall, one popular writer from Toledo a few years back published some ideas on search that basically had the searching crew doing search without any hand tools, as it sounds like was the case here? On re-read, it appears he had the irons, so? To that end Dorner notes he wished he'd brought a 4' hook to sound the floor. Unless their hooks are different than ours, I'd hope for a heavier tool to sound a floor, I wouldn't trust the weight of a hook, nevermind a 4 footer. He noted he had the irons, why not use the halligan to probe and sound ahead?

Interesting read, glad FF Dorner was able to walk away. Is it me or does it seem that a FD the size of Toledo could figure out a better shift assignment plan then have four FFers with less than 4 years on the job assigned to the same company? As I recall, one popular writer from Toledo a few years back published some ideas on search that basically had the searching crew doing search without any hand tools, as it sounds like was the case here? On re-read, it appears he had the irons, so? To that end Dorner notes he wished he'd brought a 4' hook to sound the floor. Unless their hooks are different than ours, I'd hope for a heavier tool to sound a floor, I wouldn't trust the weight of a hook, nevermind a 4 footer. He noted he had the irons, why not use the halligan to probe and sound ahead?