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Public official are always held to a higher standard. That's always the way it's going to be. No one might be all that surprised that a "stockbroker" took advantage of this women, but the thought of a FF or a LEO doing, that's a harder concept to accept, and as a result, is seen by some as more newsworthy.
Speaking only for myself, I have no problem with being held to a higher standard.

While I also don't know the details of what transpired, nor do I care, I think everyone forgets one thing. This is a private board. Participation by any and all members is at the sole discretion of the board’s owner/operator/staff. The have the absolute right to ban/censor/limit any discussions/topics/etc.
While I not always agreed with the actions taken on particular topics in the past, I am conscious of the fact that we use this board with the consent of the operators.
The concepts that a private board is censored dosen’t hold much water. As with any private organization, if you don't like the rules, you essentially have two options. Find another board or start your own. I can only imagine a significant amount of work went into developing this board, and I'm sure you'll find out exactly how much if you try and start your own.

While I also don't know the details of what transpired, nor do I care, I think everyone forgets one thing. This is a private board. Participation by any and all members is at the sole discretion of the board’s owner/operator/staff. The have the absolute right to ban/censor/limit any discussions/topics/etc.
While I not always agreed with the actions taken on particular topics in the past, I am conscious of the fact that we use this board with the consent of the operators.
The concepts that a private board is censored dosen’t hold much water. As with any private organization, if you don't like the rules, you essentially have two options. Find another board or start your own. I can only imagine a significant amount of work went into developing this board, and I'm sure you'll find out exactly how much if you try and start your own.

I have something that is worth posting here and is something I want all of you to read and really think about. This was forwarded to me by a friend. This was written by Meriden, CT, Battalion Chief Burdick.
These are words that I whole heartily beleive in and held true in my profession being a firefighter, from the time I started volunteering my service to my present career in the fire services. Next time when you use the term "Brotherhood" stop and think about it for a second and ask yourself how you use the term, live up to your actions, consider your self part of the Brotherhood. I see the term used often here, but are you truly in the brotherhood?
Just think.

While I also don't know the details of what transpired, nor do I care, I think everyone forgets one thing. This is a private board. Participation by any and all members is at the sole discretion of the board’s owner/operator/staff. The have the absolute right to ban/censor/limit any discussions/topics/etc.
While I not always agreed with the actions taken on particular topics in the past, I am conscious of the fact that we use this board with the consent of the operators.
The concepts that a private board is censored dosen’t hold much water. As with any private organization, if you don't like the rules, you essentially have two options. Find another board or start your own. I can only imagine a significant amount of work went into developing this board, and I'm sure you'll find out exactly how much if you try and start your own.

All,
The EMTBravo staff tries to be objective and fair and the site administrators have counseled the staff to moderate fairly and impartially. The staff enjoys the way this site enables a variety of people to engage in thought provoking discussions, share ideas or experiences, and promote doing our jobs the right way. We believe in equal application of the rules to all members and enforce them only as necessary.
We have reviewed the situation involving an active member of this site and based upon our findings, the member did violate forum rules and after what became a heated exchange with members of the staff, he was banned. This member has since acknowledged that he did in fact violate forum rules and has apologized. It is not in dispute that these issues existed and that this member is responsible for them.
1. The member had and used multiple screen names.
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As a result of the foregoing, this member was banned. Several other members carried the proverbial torch and violated forum rules and were also banned.
It is this member’s right to complain about EMTBravo to friends and peers and to vent his frustration with the staff however it serves no purpose when these friends or colleagues log in and under the guise of supporting him, violate forum rules themselves.
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Great turnout by PD, FD and EMS for the funeral of Poughkeepsie Police Det. John Falcone in Carmel.

Date: 2-26-11
Time: 1340
Location: Hudson River off of the Kingston-Rhinecliff Bridge
Frequency: 33.48, 46.46, 155.025
Units Operating: East Kingston FD, Glasco FD, Ulster Hose FD, Woodstock FD, Ruby FD, Mobile Life Support, UCSO Dive Team, Coast Guard, Ulster PD, NYSP, Air-2
Weather Conditions: Sunny, cool
Description Of Incident: Personal aircraft into the Hudson River.
Reporters/Writer: eric12401, JetPhoto
1340 - East Kingston respond with all equipment to a plane crash into the Hudson River. Glasco with their boat, Ulster Hose with 61-17 and their Dive Team, Ulster County Sheriff's Office with their Dive Team.
1343 - Coast Guard notified, will be deploying a cutter shortly.
1345 - Staging area will be at Charles Rider Park off of Ulster Landing Rd.
1346 - Police requesting to shut down the Kingston-Rhinecliff Bridge.
1347 - Kingston-Ulster Airport reporting it was a personal aircraft.
1348 - Saugerties Coast Guard reporting their cutter is out of service.
1349 - State Police launching a helicopter for a rescue mission.
1350 - Woodstock Co. 4 with their hovercraft to the scene.
1354 - A cutter from Norrie Point (?) en route with a 45 minute ETA. Air-2 en route.
1401 - Ruby with 1 engine to standby at East Kingston station #1. Reports of a large barge moving northbound from Newburgh.
1405 - Car 56 reporting a personal jet with 1 subject, debris field in the river.
1411 - Air-2 and NYSP helicopter on scene
1419 - Ulster Hose with fire police to assist with traffic control at the intersection of Rt. 9w and Rt. 199
~1420 - NYSP Aviation reporting plane half under, appears fatal. Air boat en route from NYSP in Albany.
1423 - Kingston-Rhinecliff Bridge reopened.
http://dailyfreeman.com/articles/2011/02/26/news/doc4d69516c83a00219327959.txt
UPDATE: http://dailyfreeman.com/articles/2011/02/27/news/doc4d69c42f0b5de677419944.txt

While training someone to be a medic is harder than than training someone to use a gun, a tactical medic doesn't need to be a full paramedic. They need to be a trauma medic. A blind airway, hemostatic dressings, and tourniquets are your primary tools. Have your civilian medic parked at a staging area so you can maintain your opsec and keep the most useful tool to a downed officer, rapid transport, available

Well, the charge your thinking of would be Grand Larceny in the Second Degree, NYS PL 155.40, as the value of the theft exceeds $50,000.
In reality, in a situation like this, when the actor had an arguable property right to the stolen vehicle, the more appropriate charge would be Unauthorized Use of A Vehicle in the Third Degree, NYS PL 165.05.

If Buchanan was only called for their cascade unit, there is no reason those responding on it have to be strucutal firefighters, since that is not what they were called for. Other cascade units in Westchester respond staffed by non-firefighters (Greenburgh CD comes to mind).
If manpower is needed (this isn't specific to this call or to Montrose so don't jump down my throat) then an IC can and usually does call for it. Sounded like enough personnel were there to handle this fire, so stop the hating.
16fire5 - you're right, people have to right to ask about an incident to learn from it, but if people are on here just to "stir the pot," nobody benefits from that. And you are a smart enough guy to realize when that pot is being stirred. There are far fewer incident discussions, photos shared or even discussions of any kind on here anymore because everyone is a critic and a lot of these "critics" have personal agendas.
As far as I'm concerned, "all the chips fell into place" for this fire. I've been to a few fires caused in the same manner as this one, and they've resulted in the destruction of rooms and total homes. The homeowner was fortunate that someone drove by and saw the fire, got her out of the house, the FD had a quick response and the fire was mostly contained to the exterior of the home.
She's lucky and Montrose deserve's a pat on the back. Ignore the haters.

I guess the truth really hurts some of you guys.
I speak based on the irresponsible actions of the local chiefs and assistants with ghost lettering on their vehicles. Maybe south of here the Chiefs drive with respect and decency... But then again, I have seen plenty of Chiefs from Westchester, Rockland and Putnam drive around erratically with the lights and sirens blaring at the HVVFA shows 100 miles out of their response area, so maybe not.
Ghost lettering and blue LEDs on fire apparatus wasn't important to have until the cops got it. All of a sudden, everyone has to have it and it apparently has nothing to do with the police having it?
If you don't think I should be a moderator because I have an opinion that is different from yours, I am more than happy to give it up. However, I won't give up my opinion.

As was stated, it makes it much easier to abuse their powers. I guess they want to look like the cops too...

So sorry that you feel that my safety question is such a downer. Dont worry, I will not invite you to one.

Makes it harder to id after you cut off other cars causing MVA's.

http://www.emtbravo.net/index.php/topic/33560-police-say-syringes-will-help-stop-drunk-driving/page__p__192166__hl__%2Bdwi+%2Bblood+%2Bdraw__fromsearch__1#entry192166
This is one thread and I'm pretty sure that there have been others as well.

Is this County Car 1 the position Smith got or is that the fire side line-up?
This is more than a fire position. The boss at ER has to be able to run the department, manage budgets and deal with people inside and outside the department, work with all the different divisions not just fire.
I'm sure they're people in Dutchess who are good managers but Smith was working inside the department for the past 4 years, learned the County system and got the job. He has been around the block as a paramedic and instructor not only an EMT. I never worked for him personally but I've heard of him and it was all good. Why don't you give him a chance before dumping on him?
If they had picked some fire fossil from inside the county nobody'd be happy either. Why'd the pick someone from Pawling or Poughkeepsie or Poughquag and not Red Hook or Rombout or whereever? We're much busier then them it should have been our chief or this one or that.
Of course its a good ol' boys club. That's why they call it politics.

Funny I always felt the same way about Volly brass Taking Jobs away froim Career firefighters ,..
There are two sides to each street even the one way ones

From a legal standpoint, the issue being addressed by the District Court Judge is one of "disparate impact." He (or the plaintiffs) don't have to show how or why the pass rates for minorities/non-minorities are so different (hell, they don't even have to understand why there is a disparity), rather, the plaintiff only has to show there is a statistical anomaly, and in the end the protected class can meet the minimum practical responsibilities of the job. The concept was developed (or more appropriately honed) in Griggs v. Duke Power, in the 1970's.
As unfair as it seems (and I am one who does believe it is unfair), this Judge is unfortunately just following precedent. What needs to done is a ruling from a Court of Record (COR) essentially modifying existing precedent. Some of the SCOTUS argument in Ricci v. NH did that, so in this case NYC will have a leg to stand on that it didn't only a few years ago. The ironic thing is if he ruled for NYC, we would be calling him an "activist judge."
While I disagree with this ruling, I don't envy the rock and the hard place this Judge is in, ruling between precedent and what is, in my personal opinion, the right thing to do. NYC's best avenue of regress here is an appellant argument, relying heavily on the Ricci decision.

(Retired)efdcapt115 Command Vehicle/2004 Chevy Tahoe-2010 run total:
2 car fires: 1 in Florida on the Turnpike
1 in Georgia on I-95
1 flat tire assist: Overseas Highway, Marathon, Fl.
total: 3 runs
South Battalion standing-by K....

We received a post- arrest the other night in the local ER. She (a dialysis pt who missed her rx due to the winter storm) called 911 saying she couldn't breathe and "was probably having a heart attack." 2 minutes later PD broke down her door and found her asystolic-- started CPR. 2 more minutes later ALS arrived and loaded a few rounds of Epi and Atropine into her. Got a pulse. Gave 1 more of Epi and 1 more of Atropine. Scrambled her to me in the local ER with a pulse of 40 (mostly ectopic, med-based beats). We immediatley began the hypothermia protocol (AKA Code Cool).
Fast forward: 2 days.
She was warmed back up in our ICU from 93 degrees to 98 degrees and was extubated the day after. 2 days later she was extubated and asked ME, the one who received her and wrote her off as non-viable, ""What the Hell was I thinking bothering you people with my medical problems??? I'm so sorry I bothered you all!"
WE broke her ribs, tore her lip tubing her, and jammed lines and tubes all over the place in her tiny body, and she's apologizing to ME. This is why I do this. Beyond words. Seriously. There's so rarely a save post-arrest, and if the person survives, he/she rarely comes out of it as much more than a plant on a window sill. And she thanked ME.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, all. NEVER forget why you do what you do and NEVER assume your efforts are fruitless. This woman was proof to me to always the assume the outcome is going to be a GOOD ONE.

NYS does not have a "weather exception"
Not normally, unless the SEMAC (NYS DOH Medical Advisory Committee) aproved it.
Dont know if its true, but many reports were that a "state of Emergency" was not declared. IV's during MCI's & Tx by BLS hs been outlawed in NYS as of 2004
http://www.nyhealth.gov/nysdoh/ems/policy/04-02.htm
1) It was not state of emergency (But it should have been) 2) What law allows this?
This makes sense if allowed. But its not clear if this is whhat was happening.

The Job description is well written. I am impressed. It is a lot better than many I've seen.

Date: 12-16-10
Time: 1925hrs (tow)
Location: I-87 SB m.m. 65
Frequency:
Units Operating: CVFD, Winona Lake FD, Plattekill FD, 36-13 (Coordinator), Orange Lake FD (re-locate), Medevac, EMS, NYSP.
Weather Conditions: Cold, dark
Description Of Incident: Roll-Over MVA w/Multiple Patients & Medevac
Reporters:
Writer: BFD1054
*Times are approximates.
1925hrs-Cronomer Valley FD operating I-87 SB mm 65, truck roll-over with multiple patients. Orange 911 advising medevac is on stand-by.
1926hrs-Winona Lake FD requested to stand-by in quarters with their rescue to cover calls in Cronomer Valley. Cronomer Valley Command now requesting a launch of the medevac.
1927hrs-Winona Lake Rescue now requested to the scene; requested to respond to the Northbound side of I87 at mm 65.
1932hrs-Orange Lake R329 requested to stand-by in their own quarters to cover all calls for Cronomer Valley.
1936hrs-Cronomer Valley Command now requesting Orange Lake R329 to re-locate to Cronomer Valley's station.
1944hrs-Cronomer Valley LZ advising AIR-2 is on the ground.
2002hrs-36-13 advising that all extrication is complete.
Link to Times Herald Record article:
http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20101216/NEWS/101219794

Really? Fully 50% of your income goes to taxes? The government picked your doctor? What insurance plan are you on? The government told you where you can live? Could you post the letter from the government that dictated that to you? Even told you what car you can drive? Was that in the same notice about where you can live?
The fact of the matter remains, this bill was blocked by the Republicans. They may want to be known as the "law and order, tough on crime" party, but when it comes to matters like the 9/11 bill and union/collective bargaining issues, public sector workers (and private sector) in many cases don't have much to look forward to under Republican leadership.