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I find it pathetic when any municipal or government employee expects preferential treatment. If these are your friends, co-workers or fellow employees why would you expect them to not do their job when you make a mistake? If you get a pass, smile, privately thank the officer and then STFU about it. The more people hear about professional courtesy, the less professional the people involved look. If you get a ticket, smile, thank the officer for doing their job, STFU about it and take your lumps like anyone else.

I am so happy that the truth came out. So often our police officers are falsely accused of wrong doings. Without those cameras, most of us, including myself, would take the word of what we would consider two highly respected and trusted individuals.
A firefighter, especially a fire captain, is expected to do the right thing. He is assigned to set the standards and be a role model to younger firefighters. He is to lead by example.
Firefighters and Police Officers work side by side many times together in life threatening situations. They attend LODD funerals for each other. There is probably no other group of employees that face more danger in our society today as those police officers and firefighters who we all depend on. There is an Unwritten Brotherhood that is shared by each and every one.
As a retired fire officer myself, I find this incident embarrassing to ALL Fire Fighters. One of our Brother Firefighters just dragged ALL of us through the mud. When you wear that badge and uniform, what you do, both on and off duty, represents everyone of us. You are held to a much higher standard than most other citizens.
So if you make your career as a firefighter, remember whether you are in Georgia, New York City or any place else, what you do on or off duty reflects on ALL of Us.
And by the way, for those police officers that are out there "doing it everyday and every night", I have nothing but the highest respect for you. I just Thank the Good Lord you are there.

They probably set relations between their agencies back considerably. I hope they charge them criminally.

Date: 1-16-16
Time: 17:16hrs
Location: I-684 SB to I-287 EB Ramp
District: Purchase
Battalion: 19
Incident Commander: Car 2415-Car 2413/Car 2502
Channel: Fire 19
Weather: 49F, overcast
Units:
Purchase FD Engine 240, Engine 239, Car 2415, Car 2414
West Harrison FD Engine 266, Utility 25, Car 2051, Car 2502
Harrison EMS 61-A-1
Harrison PD
NYSP
Writer: x635

Description: Dispatched as a tractor trailer rollover with entrapment
17:24 Car 2415 on scene confirming rollover w/ entrapment
17:26 Car 2415 reporting single vehicle, tractor trailer rolled over, driver is pinned
17:28 Car 2415 directing Engine 240 to pull in front of the ambulance and deploy extrication tools
17:32 Car 2502 reporting extrication in progress
17:34 Car 2415 reporting patient has been extricated, in care of Harrison EMS 61-A-1
17:40 Car 2415 requesting tones for Purchase members to standby in quarters
17:50 61-A-1 enroute to Westchester Medical Center with one patient ALS
18:00 West Harrison units going back in service, Purchase holding all Purchase units

It doesn't work in FDNY and didn't work in YFD! Gotta get an outsider to turn that Circus around! Enough with the Nepotism and Political favors! Start promoting individuals based on merit to these Positions!

It never works! Look what happened in YFD yrs ago!

Wow.

Are we really going to start talking politics here?

Aren't there enough other forums covering this nonsense?

Look, as much as no one likes to do EDP calls, it's still not an excuse to delay service. You don't know what can happen in that time. It can go from a "regular" EDP call to them actually hurting themselves or another and it becoming a medical emergency. Time is always of the essence. We shouldn't be regulating which calls to go on just because it's this kind of call or that kind of call. That happens with the FD's and we see how that ends up hurting morale and efficiency.

As a former member of SHAC. I remember when we would do on the average of about 5 mutal aid calls a week. We would jokingly say our motto was have ambulance, will travel. But I see now times have changed. I no longer live in the area for a while now. But to the person who said it was just an EDP. I hope to god your not a member or an EMT of a Amblance Corp, and God help us if you are an officer. That was the most disgusting and unprofessional thing to say.

Fail.
Then maybe they should hire the other half of the crew. This is ridiculous.

Does anyone know why they would hold onto the call for so long when they couldn't muster a crew?

Just to clarify, this call appears to have occurred after 7:00 p.m., when the career EMT from OVAC had already left, so OVAC isn't really involved in this specific matter.

Just to clarify, this call appears to have occurred after 7:00 p.m., when the career EMT from OVAC had already left, so OVAC isn't really involved in this specific matter.

Just to clarify, this call appears to have occurred after 7:00 p.m., when the career EMT from OVAC had already left, so OVAC isn't really involved in this specific matter.

Could they be getting more involved in EMS, given the crazy number of calls generated by the VA Campus and State Nursing Home on the Campus?
If they were starting to assume the ALS care and transport, it would really reduce the burden on CCVAC and Cortlandt ALS who respond there multiple times every day.

Date: 1-10-16
Time: 22:30hrs
Location: 16 Bonnie Hollow Lane C/S Tommie Thurber Lane
District: Montrose
Battalion: 10
Incident Commander: Car 2272/Car 2271
Channel: Fire 10
Weather: 28F, clear
Units: (See rundown below updates)
Writer: x635
Description: Dispatched as an electrical fire
22:40 Car 2272 reporting active fire, one line stretched through the front door, all residents evacuated
22:42 Car 2272 advising 10-75 (Working Fire)
22:44 Car 2272 reporting 1 line stretched and operating
22:50 45x25 single family residence, fire has been knocked down, checking for extension
Units:
Montrose FD Engine 122, Engine 121, Engine 123, Tower Ladder 8, Rescue 51, Car 2271 (Assumed IC upon Arrival)
Car 2272 (Initial IC)
Buchanan FD (Standby in their quarters)
Verplank FD (Standby in their quarters)
Montrose VA FD Engine 225 (FAST)
Cortland VAC 88-B-3, Rehab 88-05
NYSP
WCDES Battalion 10

There is something seriously, seriously wrong with a department's safety and training procedures if this many firefighters are getting hurt at every fire, or something else is going on, like union issues.

Notable incident is self defining. We all are way to familiar to all the problems in the local fire service. The title of this thread is "Westchester Run Totals 2015". For stats, curiosity, fun, whatever. If you want to go into the other issues, fine. Just please don't hijack this thread, start a new one.

Date: 12-28-15
Time: 11:38hrs
Location: 3 Hollis Ln C/S Mount Airy Rd
District: Croton Fire (Town Of Cortlandt)
Incident Commander: Car 2082
Battalion: 10
Channel: Fire 10, Fireground 3
Weather: 39F, clear
Units: (See rundown below updates)

Description:
11:41 Car 2082 on scene, heavy smoke, working fire, Tanker 10 is first arriving
12:07 Car 2082 reporting 3 lines stretched, 2 in operation, roof is opened, main body of fire is knocked down, all hands working
12:21 Battalion 17 advising releasing Continental Village Tanker 11, Pocantico Hills Tanker 12, and Yorktown FD Tanker 14, holding Bedford Hills Tanker at Croton FD
12:29 Battalion 17 reporting releasing Tower Ladder 42, situation is under control
Units:
Croton FD Engine 120, Engine 118, Tower Ladder 44, Tanker 10, Rescue 18, Utility 14, Car 2082 (I/C)
Ossining FD Engine 98 (FAST), Tower Ladder 42, Car 2331, Car 2334
Yorktown FD Tanker 14
Millwood FD Tanker 15
Continental Village Tanker 11
Pocantico Hills FD Tanker 12, Car 2381
Montrose VA FD Engine 225, Car 2571
Buchanan FD Utility 12 (S/C Cascade), Car 2551
Bedford Hills FD Tanker 5 (Relocating Croton FD), Car 2032
Somers FD Tower Ladder 18 (Relocate Croton FD)
Montrose FD Engine 123 (Relocate Croton FD), Car 2273
Croton FD*EMS
Ossining EMS 74-B-1, 36-M-1
NYSP
WCDES Battalion 17

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Date: 12-28-15
Time: 0910hrs
Location: Tarrytown Rd/Robertson Ave
District: White Plains
Weather: 38F, clear
Units: White Plains FD Engine 66, Tower Ladder 6, Rescue 88, Car 2512 (I/C), Transcare A-1, White Plains PD, WPPD ESU Truck 1
Writer: x635

Description: MVA w/ entrapment Click Here For Photos
09:12hrs Engine 66, Tower Ladder 6 on scene, 1 car MVA, 1 victim significantly entrapped, tools going to work
09:29hrs Patient extricated, in care of EMS

When you're driving on 9A, Taconic, and other local NYS*DOT roads that aren't getting plowed hours after a storm has begun and are a nightmare, something has to give. The state doesn't want to pay or equip this region to properly plow the roads in a timely manner. If this will help clear them faster, I'm all for it. It could also allow for more equipment to be on the road, allowing plow crews to make more passes. As far as eliminating jobs, the same was said when firefighters were switching from manual pumps to steamers.
This technology, however, has been proven in other states, and was developed primarily in Canada, in regions that get regular snowfall that makes our storms look puny. It's a learning curve for sure, and I hope NYS has done extensive testing before making this purchase. But it's like switching from a rear mount straight stick to a tiller or tower. Two machines that get the same job done, but in different ways.
What I find weird is that the NYS*DOT plows that have wings require a second person to spot and operate the wings, and I think these should have a "wingman" for operating and spotting the tow plow.
Here's another video of tow plows in action:

Date: 12-21-15
Time: 14:28hrs
Location: 19 Water St C/S Secor Rd (Metalized Carbon Company)
District: Ossining
Box: Ossining 66
Incident Commander: Car 2331
Battalion: 12
Weather: 49F, Partly Cloudy, Wind 7 MPH, Humidity 61%
Units: (See list below updates)
Writer: x635

Description: Ossining FD dispatched for assistance requested by Metalized Carbon Company to help keep tanks cool, leaking chemical resin

14:42 Car 2331 advising chemical containment issue, tanks heating up, trying to keep cool

14:52 Chemical leaking is Furfuryl Alcohol

16:08 Battalion 12 progress report 19 Water St Metalized Carbon Company, unknown quantity of furfuryl alcohol, oxidizing in containers inside and outside of structure. Structure is 30x50 foot, 1 1/2-story cinderblock building. 3 lines stretched and operating cooling the product inside and outside the building. HazMat and company officials trying to determine quantity. Chemical is contained but off gassing.
Exposure A street, B side yard, Exposure C Metro North Hudson Line, Exposure D storage yard

16:36 Battalion 12 advising MTA has Ossining Train Station shut down, also track shutdowns in effect

17:35 Battalion 12 Progress Report #3: Montrose VA HazMat team has made entry, 1st attempt to remove product has failed due to product reheating, 3 firefighters evaluated for respiratory issues but refused medical attention, being monitored at the scene, all companies continuing to operate, will be an extended incident
19:31 Battalion 12 Progress Report #4 All units still flowing water on containers, temperatures reduced substantially, off gassing eliminating, Metro North reopening Ossining Train Station and all normal traffic, all hands working
19:39 Battalion 12 advising Car 2331 placing situation under control
19:42 EMS 11 releasing Pleasantville VAC Rehab
20:03 Battalion 12 releasing Montrose VA Haz Mat 3
20:29 Relocated companies (Millwood Engine 247, Tarrytown Ladder 37) being released
20:29 Battalion 12 in service
20:34 Car 2331 advising all units in service, command terminated

Units:
Ossining FD Engine 96, Engine 97, Engine 98, Engine 99, Engine 100, Engine 101, Ladder 41, Tower Ladder 42, Rescue 14
Car 2331 (I/C)
Montrose VA FD Haz Mat 3, Car 2571
Briarcliff FD Recue 37 (Cascade), 53-B-2 (covering calls in Ossining)
Tarrytown FD Ladder 37 (Relocate Ossining FD HQ)
Millwood FD Engine 247 (Relocate Ossining FD HQ)
MTA FD Car 2643
Ossining VAC 74-A-1, 74-B-1, 74-11
Pleasantville VAC 76-B-3 (Relocate Ossining VAC HQ, then went back to PVAC to retrieve Rehab Unit), Rehab unit
Chappaqua VAC 54-B-1 (Relocate Pleasantville VAC)
Ossining PD Patrol, Supervisors (Secured Perimiter)
MTA PD Patrol, ESU, Supervisors
MTA Emergency Management, Trainmaster
WCPD Special Operations
WCDES Battalion 12, Battalion 11, Car 2001, Car 4, EMS 11, HazMat 1
WCOEM OEM-1
Con Ed Emergency Commander


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The Statute itself addresses this only applies in cases where no others require transport. As for your comments regarding who should pay the bill:
Sometimes in emergency services you do the right thing, because it's the right thing to do. And why do you think the handler or the police chief would have any issues regarding providing consent to transport an injured work dog to an appropriate facility. Most of us in law enforcement know that many of these dogs are shot, stabbed and killed every year to avoid sending humans into dangerous situations. Around police departments, these K9's are invaluable and treated as such. If the situation every presents itself, just let them know in advance that you need to know who will be "paying the bill." I'm sure law enforcement will make other arrangements as to not cut into your budget. I've been so lucky to work both as a Paramedic and LEO in agencies that work so well together that these problems would never arise. I'm sorry to hear that's not the case everywhere.

It amazes me how topics that should generate no controversy, still manage to do so.

60 Control is incompetent. They could never handle Fairview or Hartsdale....
#givemeaf***ingbreak