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Alan, good points.
 
And, as my late father once told one of his ass-kissing subordinates; "Nobody likes a rat." I also don't like that it took so long for this incident to be brought to the forefront. However, it shows a true lack of professionalism and decency on the part of the chief. Unfortunately, times have changed (not always for the better) and standards of conduct are always open to (intense at times) scrutiny. 
 
As Warner Wolf used to say, "Lets go to the videotape." By today's standards, he's guilty of conduct unbecoming a (fill in the blanks). His credibility, questionable from the outset, is at an all time low. Not someone I'd want, or trust, having my back at an emergency, or in the company rooms. 

This has nothing to do with volunteer vs. career or anything other than someone being an ASS!!!

It's my experience that even Volunteer Chiefs take an oath of office as they assume the job.  While some may see this as a formality many of of don't.  You're swearing to do the job to the best of your ability and protect the citizens and your firefighters.  You're not swearing to settle a score with the paid guys or use you power to carry out a vendetta routed in jealousy.   It's a well established fact that volunteer fire departments everywhere are suffering from a shortage of qualified volunteers and the average age of volunteers is steadily increasing.  I for the life of me can't see how any fire chief paid or volunteer could be doing their job to protect the safety of their members or the public if they support decreasing staff.  Having some fully qualified staff guaranteeing apparatus response and fully capable firefighters on scene for every response is something many communities and chiefs can only dream of and recently we're seeing two cases of these communities where the sworn leaders have gone on the record that cutting staff will not effect their department's ability.  I'd love to hear the argument of how having less members on scene or waiting for a volunteer arrive and drive a fire apparatus will be a benefit to anyone.   

It's my experience that even Volunteer Chiefs take an oath of office as they assume the job.  While some may see this as a formality many of of don't.  You're swearing to do the job to the best of your ability and protect the citizens and your firefighters.  You're not swearing to settle a score with the paid guys or use you power to carry out a vendetta routed in jealousy.   It's a well established fact that volunteer fire departments everywhere are suffering from a shortage of qualified volunteers and the average age of volunteers is steadily increasing.  I for the life of me can't see how any fire chief paid or volunteer could be doing their job to protect the safety of their members or the public if they support decreasing staff.  Having some fully qualified staff guaranteeing apparatus response and fully capable firefighters on scene for every response is something many communities and chiefs can only dream of and recently we're seeing two cases of these communities where the sworn leaders have gone on the record that cutting staff will not effect their department's ability.  I'd love to hear the argument of how having less members on scene or waiting for a volunteer arrive and drive a fire apparatus will be a benefit to anyone.   

This isn't an issue isolated to this company / municipalities.  I spent much of my six years as a Chief Officer trying to get this information and to convince the village to paint the hydrants to comply with the NFPA Flow Color Code.

It's very common out west and some parts of Fla. 
 

If Rye Brook presently has eight firefighters and they picked up the eight dismissed firefighters from Port Chester and paid their salaries with the million they no longer have to give the PCFD. That would give them . 16 members on the Department, the same number of career firefighters many of the smaller jobs in Westchester have right now give or take a few ===Larchmont, Pelham Harrison, Pelham Manor etc. When appropriate officers could be developed from the group, ie One Captain, three Lieutenants and twelve firefighters on 24. hours a day coverage
A four person or three person shift could take care of the vast majority of smells and bells calls before the need for mutual aid. 
 The benefit for Rye Brook would be a professional Department for about what they are paying now without having to deal with the contract and any future PCFC drama ,additionally, they would get fully trained veteran firefighters well versed in their Department and community. ( they work there now)
 The eight Port Chester firefighters would again be employed and their families protected.
  I think it would be worth a conversation. it could really be a win-win-win all around.

Rear mount Aerials
Generally less room needed to set up
The stick goes up fast-this is really nice when the person is hanging out the window on arrival.  
 
Tower Ladders
Nice stable platform to work from when opening up cornices and pulling off window bars or HUD windows
Much easier to remove trapped occupants when the angle of the aerial would be extreme or you have elderly or kids
You throw all your stuff in the bucket and ride it up freshly ready to work instead of carrying saw and tools up steep climb to 75' rooftop and then having to cut
The distance between the last axle and rear of the rig make navigating them in tight urban areas nearly impossible.  
 
The single rear axle baker aerielscopes of old were probably one of the most functional firefighting apparatus ever made with their short wheelbase and amazing versatility.  
 
Tiller's deserve a mention for their ability to get into prohibitively tight places and they have a great deal of compartment and ground ladder space.  
 

Rear mount Aerials
Generally less room needed to set up
The stick goes up fast-this is really nice when the person is hanging out the window on arrival.  
 
Tower Ladders
Nice stable platform to work from when opening up cornices and pulling off window bars or HUD windows
Much easier to remove trapped occupants when the angle of the aerial would be extreme or you have elderly or kids
You throw all your stuff in the bucket and ride it up freshly ready to work instead of carrying saw and tools up steep climb to 75' rooftop and then having to cut
The distance between the last axle and rear of the rig make navigating them in tight urban areas nearly impossible.  
 
The single rear axle baker aerielscopes of old were probably one of the most functional firefighting apparatus ever made with their short wheelbase and amazing versatility.  
 
Tiller's deserve a mention for their ability to get into prohibitively tight places and they have a great deal of compartment and ground ladder space.  
 

Rear mount Aerials
Generally less room needed to set up
The stick goes up fast-this is really nice when the person is hanging out the window on arrival.  
 
Tower Ladders
Nice stable platform to work from when opening up cornices and pulling off window bars or HUD windows
Much easier to remove trapped occupants when the angle of the aerial would be extreme or you have elderly or kids
You throw all your stuff in the bucket and ride it up freshly ready to work instead of carrying saw and tools up steep climb to 75' rooftop and then having to cut
The distance between the last axle and rear of the rig make navigating them in tight urban areas nearly impossible.  
 
The single rear axle baker aerielscopes of old were probably one of the most functional firefighting apparatus ever made with their short wheelbase and amazing versatility.  
 
Tiller's deserve a mention for their ability to get into prohibitively tight places and they have a great deal of compartment and ground ladder space.  
 

Rear mount Aerials
Generally less room needed to set up
The stick goes up fast-this is really nice when the person is hanging out the window on arrival.  
 
Tower Ladders
Nice stable platform to work from when opening up cornices and pulling off window bars or HUD windows
Much easier to remove trapped occupants when the angle of the aerial would be extreme or you have elderly or kids
You throw all your stuff in the bucket and ride it up freshly ready to work instead of carrying saw and tools up steep climb to 75' rooftop and then having to cut
The distance between the last axle and rear of the rig make navigating them in tight urban areas nearly impossible.  
 
The single rear axle baker aerielscopes of old were probably one of the most functional firefighting apparatus ever made with their short wheelbase and amazing versatility.  
 
Tiller's deserve a mention for their ability to get into prohibitively tight places and they have a great deal of compartment and ground ladder space.  
 

Your reputation is what is salty  not your gear.  that being said,  ( I know ur lid is ur badge of honor) how many guys wash their earflaps? IF they are down during a job,  they will get dirty agree?  How do you wear your flaps most of the time,  tucked up inside your lid.  So now that dirt is directly transferred to your head.   Wash your earflaps !!!

My Monday morning QB instinct says I'd do it but prefer the truck back in, in case it got stuck you could use the aerial without going over the cab. Pretty common to see pics from PG county with truck off the pavement, not seen any that had poor results? It's always tough to argue against a positive outcome, easier to cast stones when it's a negative.

Funny how everyone thinks it's a fire department decision. It's up to the politicians to determine if they want the FD to do it. And currently under NY States tax cap if it costs more, it means something else must get cut. Even if it were to be a better service, it's all about $$$$

This is not a contract it's a request for proposals 
 
its illegal to give a no bid contract with government money to a private person or company 

The NFPA's stats tell us that Career Firefighters (30%) respond to (70%) of the fires. Sure there are exceptions but for the most part this is true. As for this study no one should be surprised who commissioned the study. When people bring up Fairfax, PG, Montgomery Co. there are a lot of differences. Fairfax and Montgomery County although they have volunteers do not rely on them to the level PG does and the career numbers have increased there. In those counties for the most part they are the only department. Would that work in NY? As the law reads we could make super districts to cover large areas and probably provided excellent fire protection but by law cities need to provide their own fire protection.

The NFPA's stats tell us that Career Firefighters (30%) respond to (70%) of the fires. Sure there are exceptions but for the most part this is true. As for this study no one should be surprised who commissioned the study. When people bring up Fairfax, PG, Montgomery Co. there are a lot of differences. Fairfax and Montgomery County although they have volunteers do not rely on them to the level PG does and the career numbers have increased there. In those counties for the most part they are the only department. Would that work in NY? As the law reads we could make super districts to cover large areas and probably provided excellent fire protection but by law cities need to provide their own fire protection.

12.05.66 39 Main St Yonkers second alarm

All of the 35 medic trucks are wired up with heaters in the back.

So we see an increasing trend of full size pickups with caps for fire service command vehicles. I think the concept makes a lot of sense. My question is when using these rigs for a Paramedic Response Unit is there an issue with equipment being stored in the bed of the vehicle without heat? I understand that the vehicles are normally stored in a conditioned garage but emergency vehicles spend a lot of time out of quarters sitting at scenes and outside the hospital. The issue with fluids and medications freezing would be a concern to me. Is there a feature that provides heat to the bed? I know utility bodies used for paramedic response rigs will have heated compartments.

So we see an increasing trend of full size pickups with caps for fire service command vehicles. I think the concept makes a lot of sense. My question is when using these rigs for a Paramedic Response Unit is there an issue with equipment being stored in the bed of the vehicle without heat? I understand that the vehicles are normally stored in a conditioned garage but emergency vehicles spend a lot of time out of quarters sitting at scenes and outside the hospital. The issue with fluids and medications freezing would be a concern to me. Is there a feature that provides heat to the bed? I know utility bodies used for paramedic response rigs will have heated compartments.

So we see an increasing trend of full size pickups with caps for fire service command vehicles. I think the concept makes a lot of sense. My question is when using these rigs for a Paramedic Response Unit is there an issue with equipment being stored in the bed of the vehicle without heat? I understand that the vehicles are normally stored in a conditioned garage but emergency vehicles spend a lot of time out of quarters sitting at scenes and outside the hospital. The issue with fluids and medications freezing would be a concern to me. Is there a feature that provides heat to the bed? I know utility bodies used for paramedic response rigs will have heated compartments.

So we see an increasing trend of full size pickups with caps for fire service command vehicles. I think the concept makes a lot of sense. My question is when using these rigs for a Paramedic Response Unit is there an issue with equipment being stored in the bed of the vehicle without heat? I understand that the vehicles are normally stored in a conditioned garage but emergency vehicles spend a lot of time out of quarters sitting at scenes and outside the hospital. The issue with fluids and medications freezing would be a concern to me. Is there a feature that provides heat to the bed? I know utility bodies used for paramedic response rigs will have heated compartments.

So we see an increasing trend of full size pickups with caps for fire service command vehicles. I think the concept makes a lot of sense. My question is when using these rigs for a Paramedic Response Unit is there an issue with equipment being stored in the bed of the vehicle without heat? I understand that the vehicles are normally stored in a conditioned garage but emergency vehicles spend a lot of time out of quarters sitting at scenes and outside the hospital. The issue with fluids and medications freezing would be a concern to me. Is there a feature that provides heat to the bed? I know utility bodies used for paramedic response rigs will have heated compartments.