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New 12 was just reporting that the son woke up to his father yelling the the house was on fire. The son crawled down the stairs, made it into the garage where he pulled a string to open the garage door. Then the father was trying to get everyone else out, they were trapped when the house collapsed. It was previously reported that the collapse occured within 10 minutes of the FD's arrival.
The timeline does not quite make sense...but the investigation may determine that.
My big question is, did the detectors work and why did the family have so little time?
The bigest concern, you can clearly see on news 12 footage the damaged lightweight truss floors. These assemblies fall apart in minutes, everyone in the fire service knows this, but we did not fight hard to stop them and the developpers fought to get them. In codes class we were taught that 90% of them are not installled to code (making it even worst). But the fire service has only pushed to get so signs.
This was a relativly new home (built since the state code was passed in 1984) And the code still does not require home sprinklers. This house would still be standing with them and when they built it, the added cost would have only been a few thousand dollars.
The fire service needs to put its money where its mouth is and fight for sprinklers and against light weight construction.

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Date: 4/29/12
Time: 12:30 pm
Location: BRP @ Bronx Zoo near 180 St
Frequency: FDNY Citywide (154.430), FDNY Bx,(154.190), FDNY EMS Div 2 (483.20625), NYPD SOD (470.8375), NYPD 46 Pct (476.4875)
Units Operating:
- FDNY - Div 7, Bat 27, Bat 18, Bat 19, R-3, E45,TL58, E88, L38, E90, TL41, E96, L54, Public Affairs, multiple other units,
- EMS - Multiple BLS/ALS, Car 552, Div 2, Conditions Car, MERV 2, LSU 2
- NYPD - ESU, Highway 1, AI Team, Aviation, K-9 (cadaver dog)
- NYC OEM - Victim Tracking Unit
- Bronx Zoo Security

Weather Conditions: Clear
Description Of Incident: A van flipped off the BRP @ 180 St into the Bronx Zoo falling 50-60 feet landing on its roof and killing all 7 passengers. Reported as 4 adults & 3 children.
PD using helicopter with infrared & also bring in cadaver dog.
D-7 requested FDNY Public Info.Dept.,OEM,Victim tracking team.
Update: Victims all from one family. 1 Male 85 y/o, 6 Females ages 80, 45, 30, 10, 5 & 3. No injuries on the ground to people of animals. Vehicle landed in the Bronx Zoo Monorail yard.
Reporters: PEMO3

How fighter jets are made! LOL

Date: 28 April 2012
Time: 1745
Location: Rear of 185 Warburton Avenue
Frequency: 156.000
Units Operating: HFD Chiefs, E-46, L-22, R-100, HFD Amb-1, GPD EMS Medic, HPD
Weather Conditions: Clear and cool
Description Of Incident: Man down embankment with heavy bleeding
Reporters: soboss34
HFD, HPD abd GPD-EMS received report of a male approx 30 ft down a steep embankment. Reports are victim was clearing brush, lost his balance and as he fell sustained severe laceration with heavy bleeding to his arm from saw he was using. Victim was not located by family for reportedly 2 or more hours and had a large amount of blood loss. Victim was treated in place on embankment by GPD medic and FD/PD. Backboarded and collared and secured in Stokes basket. L-22 aerial was extended and tip placed just below victim (approx. 30-40ft above ground). Victim was lowered by rope lowering system down aerial to turntable and handed over to ambulance crew. Transported to WMC with medic onboard.

If you joined the FD looking to run nothing but working jobs, you've been duped.
I agree with the previous post that Dinosaur referenced. False alarms are a great opportunity to learn your district and the nuances of difference occupancies. If you keep responding to the same place, you can drill into everyone's head where to place apparatus, where the fire alarm control center is located, where your primary and secondary water supply is, etc.
I do agree with the idea of charging for excessive false alarms within a certain time frame, but not because it "damages morale." How about because it wastes fuel and other department resources. What if the cops said "we think going on false burglary alarms damages morale so we don't want to do them anymore." We'd all say how selfish and unprofessional it was.

Try doing almost 9000 and see how morale is

Saw it from Hudson River in Riverdale by west 254 st looked spectacular, flew north turned around and headed south over us again.

NYPD Harbor Unit

Edgewater, NJ Marine 1

NYPD Aviation
Bell 412

Augusta A119

My shots, taken from Lenoir Preserve in Yonkers:

enterprise1 by thebronicks, on Flickr

enterprise2 by thebronicks, on Flickr

enterprise3 by thebronicks, on Flickr

enterprise4 by thebronicks, on Flickr

enterprise5 by thebronicks, on Flickr

From the Tappen Zee @ Tarrytown

Took these photo at 10:35 this morning from my office.

2012 Spartan Gladiator
8 Man Cab
1500 GPM
750 Gallon
Foam system



LED Lighting



Mid-June Delievery

For better or worse, the city will choose the least costly option, as long as it meets the spec. There is no "choosing quality". It doesn't work that way. As for who's the "best of the best", well, I really don't think the maker matters. In my house we have a Seagrave engine and a new Ferrara ladder. The build quality on the Ferrara is fantastic. Heavy welds, heave materials and the fit and finish seems to be quite good. It's laid out well and the ride is smooth like a Cadilac. Time will tell. The Seagrave is a rough riding rust bucket that has it's share of problems. Many of the recent Seagrave apparatus have spent plenty of time O.O.S. Some of the 2006-2007 tower ladders have more time in the shops that on the road, so lets take it easy on lavishing praise on Seagrave.
I can say this until I'm blue in the face; the builder matters very little compared to the spec. My experiences have shown me that when building a large apparatus order to a particular city spec, the builder matters less and less.

YEP...WE'LL FILL YOUR POOL...IF THAT'S WHAT YOU REALLY WANT

I wanted to share some of my pictures of Wilton, NY’s 1944 International. Currently serving the WVFD as a brush truck, it was originally a crash truck for the U.S. military before being bought by the FD in 1948. It recently came back from being refurbished and is back as a frontline piece. It holds 500gal of water and some other forestry gear.

I just ask for facts. You clearly don't have them in this specific instance. Maybe no one has made the effort to track accidents per mile for firefighters career or volunteer. Maybe you have the connections to get the NFPA to look into this. I don't know how to make this any clearer. I don't give a rats arse who is more dangerous behind the wheel, I only want to see the statistics proving it. Lets look at NYC. I can't find a single instance where a volunteer fire company was involved in a fatal collision. I know of three involving FDNY. Now maybe the volunteers don't even have enough road miles to make a statistically significant comparison to FDNY, but on the surface it sure seems like the volunteers are safer. No one in their right mind would consider that a fair comparison. Similarly the MTA is the deadliest city agency. They've killed far and away more civilians than anyone else and are always governed by VTL. Their drivers receive more training and have more time behind the wheel than FDNY. But their road miles are so high it would be impossible for me to just guess at which agency is statistically more dangerous.
Do career fire departments actually put more road miles on than volunteer FDs? They absolutely have more calls, there are stats documenting that. But do they have more miles? I'm still can't find anything addressing that. What I can find shows that far more land area is covered by volunteers.
Absolutely every paid firefighter must first get to work, but unless I am mistaken, those accidents are not included in these numbers. Volunteers responding to their station for a run are included. Similarly volunteers headed to the station for a parade, meeting, drill, etc are not counted.
Again, you are correct that volunteers do not meet the same standards for selection, training, and accountability. However there is NOTHING demonstrating that volunteers are crashing more frequently than career firefighters and even less proof that the training gap has anything to do with it.
So you're just going to pout and go home? There are a lot of flaws in the volunteer fire service. First and foremost that it is an inferior level of service than you would receive from a paid department. The deciding factor between the two is cost. If you could get a functional paid department or reasonably close to what you're paying for a volunteer dept you'd stick with the volunteers?? You'd be a fool. That being said there is still a very large need for professional volunteer fire service in this country. The key is professional and that starts with addressing flaws and inadequacies within your own service.

Date: 4-20-12
Time: 16:30
Location: Pines Bridge Rd / IBM (Google Maps)
Frequency: Fire 46.26, WCAP, FIRE17
Units Operating: (Yorktown: E270, E273, R16, 2531, 2534, LT51) (EMS: YVAC & 34Medic) (WCDES: BAT17, CC1, CC5,) (Millwood FD: R36, 2252) (Incident Specific: FAA, NTSB, WCAP-COMMUNICATIONS) (YPD) (WCPD: Air 2, WCPD) (NYSP) (IBM: ERT)
Units on Standby: (Somers FD: E181, 2441)
Weather Conditions: Partly Cloudy, DRY
Description Of Incident: Plane Down in the area, reports of 2 men on board.
Reporters: fireboyny, rjb869
16:29: Dispatched for Plane Down in the area, reports of 2 men on board
16:30: YPD confirming Plane down @ IBM off Pines Bridge Rd., 2 men w/ injuries
16:30: YVAC / 34 Medic notified
16:35: Request for Millwood FD
16:35: Millwood toned out for R36 to respond to the scene
16:36: 2534 On scene, 1plane, 2 male patients
16:43: 2534 - 1 l/s/o, NO fire, The 2 men are out of the aircraft, handed over to YCAC / 34medic
16:49: 2534 - Situation Under Control
16:52: 60 control notifying FAA via. WCAP
16:59: As per Westchester County Airport Operations, FAA has been notified, FAA will advise NTSB,... will advise when units are enroute
18:02: Bat 17: YHFD to remain on scene, will hold all units, and provide scene lighting
18:11: 2534: Somers units can return to service once E270 is back in service at YHFD Station 1
18:20: BAT17: YHFD will remain in service until FAA and NTSB determine that the scene is safe from hazards
23:35: 2531: IBM Command Terminated, all Yorktown units are back in service
Links: YHFD Box Assignments, LOHUD Article, PATCH Article YHFD ARTICLE

Nice! Other than the two Emergency Companies (medic units, they do about 6,000 runs EACH per year) Engine 4 is the busiest company in the city, as it protects the downtown district. This will replace a Pierce Quantum engine that 4's is running now out of Headquarters on Grand Ave.

Uhh, yeah, that's not real....

Yes, Marine 21 stays on the Trailer at Fire Headquarters and is towed by Engine 224. This allows for year-round response. We can launch at either the VA property (depending on tide) or George's Island, which boarders the VA property.

County: Westchester
City/Town/Municipality/Dept: Montrose Veterans Affairs Fire Dept.
Unit designation/identifier: Marine 21
Manufacturer and Model: Brunswick Commercial & Government Products (Boston Whaler) 22' Guardian Rescue Boat
Pump size, tank size (water/foam), aerial type & length: N/A
Status: In Production
Notes: This will be replacing the current Marine 21, a 1978 Boston Whaler 17' Guardian Rescue Boat.

OK, excellent. I couldn't agree more. I merely asked your position, as a recent article you were quoted in failed to include the term "career", and I wasn't sure if you were working to have that corrected.
I am all for equality.

Did you not read the first sentence with the word volunteer emblazoned in all caps for all the world to see how we're the scum of the earth? Perhaps not.
Top to bottom, left to right. Group words together as a sentence. Many sentences comprise a thought. Maybe they didn't teach you that in elementary school.