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Then we don't help drunks, or fat people, or people who don't exercise, or who people drive on bald tires or text or pretty much ANYTHING that happens to a teenager. I guess we just deliver babies.... No wait, they did that to themselves, too.

I have ZERO sympathy for people who put drugs into their bodies. They know the risk... if you get a hot bag and thats the end of the line for you, tough s***.. you did it to yourself.
I would much rather see the time of EMS spent helping the victims of Emergencies who didn't cause the situation themselves.
Just my opinion

Great job guys!
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This is an example of why a walkaround is essential, and communicating that information found to interior crews is even more essential.

After securing the cab to the ladder of Quint 17, Fort Worth Fire Rescue TRT crew then rappelled down from the ladder of Quint 17 to remove the truck driver out through the passenger side window. Keep in mind the cab is dangling over the bridge about 100 feet above the ground. Once they got the truck driver out, they brought in two big wreckers to secure the tanker truck so they could begin extrication on the two people in the car. The car was pinned underneath the tanker up against the concrete wall. Rescuers had already made contact with the people in the car who amazingly were both conscious, and alert. The truck was designed to carry water, but the tanker was empty. I know the truck driver was okay. He was very shaken up, but was checked out by MedStar personell and was released at the scene. Both people in the red Honda Accord suffered only minor injuries and were transported to a Fort Worth hospital.
Great job by all the rescuers!!

Units first focused on rescuing the driver who was in the cab dangling over the bridge and they repelled from one of the ladders on the scene to get him out first, prior to performing extrication on the persons in the car pinned underneath the water tanker.

As the other view, I would rather have it on the operators side. I always operate with one leg up against the hose so I can feel any change in pressure in the hose line, especially when getting fed from a tanker operation, before my pump starts to cavitate from a lack of water pressure.

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With all due respect, I think you have a grave misunderstanding about the role of an agency officer and the responsibilities of an agency member. It also seems that you view "professional courtesy" as an entitlement. Let me address your comments one at a time...
First off how do you know the police agencies and/or officers involved in this situation haven't gone to the offending agency in the past? Perhaps this is a pattern of behavior that needs to be resolved officially in the courts.
The defendant in this case committed 21 violations (or perhaps more) and received 21 summonses. The number of violations is what should be viewed as excessive, not the number of charges filed against him. These summonses were issued in lieu of a custodial arrest so the officers did exercise discretion.
Agency administrators, be they Chief, Captain, Commissioner, or whatever, are not parents and their members are not children (at least chronologically). There is definitely a time and a place for bringing a wayward child home to mommy or daddy but this is the case of an adult being held responsible for his actions. There's simply no reason for law enforcement to take an offender to his employer to resolve criminal acts (and reckless driving is a crime). That's like saying the State Police should take their findings in the fatal I-95 bus crash to the bus company for resolution. Where's the logic in that?
I understand where you're coming from about dealing with an agency directly and sometimes that is the right thing to do. I once stopped a vehicle operating at an excessive speed with a blue light and learned that there was no fire, the driver was late for work. He got his speeding ticket and his chief (three towns over) got a phone call about the blue light. Had the guy been running people off the road the chief would have read about the arrest in the newspaper.
It doesn't matter if it is a chief or member or civilian driving recklessly. They should be and are held responsible for their own actions. This case is noteworthy because it occurred while the offender was exercising the privilege of using red lights and siren. As the driver of any vehicle you're held responsible for the operation of that vehicle.
It isn't the lights and siren that make the risk greater; it is the driver's tendency to go faster and take more chances while using them. Psychologically it may be a false sense of security or it may be just plain adrenaline. And, highlighting points from other threads, there is a lack of supervision in many volunteer agencies that exacerbates this problem.
Finally, to receive professional courtesy one must be professional and courteous. This driver was neither. To expect preferential treatment or even infer that it is deserved in a case like this is why we hear stories of people getting tickets despite their membership in a fire or EMS agency. People get courtesy when they deserve it, not when they demand it.

Is this are we looking at here?
Montrose Ward Lafrance
Mt. Kisco IFCO Seagrave
TMFD Ward Lafrance
Vahalla FD Maxim
Rye FD Maxim
TMFD Seagrave
Ossining Maxim

Panoramic of Sharon Tower 1

Panoramic of Canaan Tanker 3

Cornwall Tanker

Lakeville Tanker 100

These are worth clicking to get the full effect.

Hydraulic overhaul via Sharon Tower 1, drafting out of a dump tank that was being filled continuously by tankers from Amenia, Wassaic, Lakeville, Canaan, and Cornwall. Lakeville's old American La France was the water hole truck down on Sharon Station Road.

Hey guy,
These firefighters did their best to try and help you out, but the confusion was created by you when you stated you were looking for something, yet upon further questioning, they pointed out to you you might actually be looking for something else (supply engine vs. more versatile pumper).
Don't come back with antagonistic comments and insult the members. A guy with a couple of dozen posts on this board has no right calling out more experienced members here as rookies, and green-horns, etc. If you don't like what they have to say, the best course of action is to ignore it, and move on. Okay?
I'd ask the other members to cease and desist with this guy; don't take the bait.
Have a nice weekend everybody.

Cedar Park, TX New Engine 3
2011 Spartan Gladiator/Smeal
2000/1000/50 Class A
Delivered March 2011
Cedar Park is a booming city, and is a suburb just north of Austin. It recently opened an 8,000 seat arena, and a large Schlitterbans Waterpark and Resort is being built in the city. As a result of that, there has been an explosion in hotels and retail being built. There is tremendous growth also due to the quality of life, affordability of new homes, excellent schools, and low taxes.
Cedar Park FD is also expanding rapidly, expecting to aqquire new apparatus and build new stations over the next few years. It is a career department.
Also, Cedar Park FD sits on the northeastern shore of Lake Travis, a large recreational lake in the region. Station 3 is closest, which is why it has the Water Rescue trailer and Jet-Skis pictured.
This is the department's first Smeal, after a few years with Pierce and E-One.
Special thanks to the guys at CPFD Station 3 for their awesome hospitality!

A supply engine can be, but does not have to be a normal class-A pumper. There are at least a few departments in Westchester that operate a non-front line pumper (meaning it does not have enough equipment to be first or second due to structure fire). These apparatus are essentially giant pump on wheels with a full bed of LDH. I know of at least one that carries about a mile of 5inch. Essentially this apparatus job is to go the the fire scene, then reverse lay to water source or it can exclusively fill tankers from the fill site or supply the attack engine. They are not designed to be actively engaged in firefighting, but rather simply moving water. This can be like you said, just the 2nd due, for those without a tanker or with long distances to water sources this is another option.
I have attached a copy of PRFDs and BFDs source pumper from LFD171s site and a photo of BFDs hose bed and mile of LDH.

No. Oversimplified, the second due engine is a regular engine that grabs the hydrant and establishes continuous water supply for the first due when operating in an area where hydrants are nearby and flowing acceptable amounts of water.
A supply engine is specifically designed to provide water supply in adverse conditions. These apparatus don't follow any one spec and can vary in design.... Some attributes to various supply engines I've encountered include some or all of the following equipment:
Front mount pump for smaller overall design and ability to nose into static water supply
2 man cab
Short wheel base
4x4 or 4x6 drive train to access remote water supply
Several thousand feet of LDH for long lays
Hose reels for long lays
High volume pumps (1750gpm+)
Pre connected front suction squirrel tails for rapid establishment of draft from static water source
Porta-Pond or drop tank to rapidly establish initial draft site for tanker operations
Water thief or hydrant assist valve
Extra adapters and fittings to facilitate unique connections OR achieve compatibility with neighboring water systems
Here is an example of Bedford FD E-108. Photo credit to emtbravo member BedfordFire via www.bedfordfire.com Notice the connections in the front bumper, the long looped length of suction tube, short overall length, two man cab (maybe three), and not seen from the rear... The 5000ft of LDH it carries.

Here's my thoughts, what about police chiefs getting their own cars? What about dpw formen getting their own truck? Plenty of vehicles out there without any markings on them doing whatever they feel. Oh add in their enormous salaries and free gas etc. Do u still see a problem with a volly chief using his car to go food shopping in the next town?
Oh and just to add this in so its not so one sided, I know career chiefs that have a take hone vehicle with lettering that they run errands in. Just saying

You've got to be kidding me. What are you talking about? Are you insinuating that they will use this vehicle to pull people over? It's the department's choice if they want to use this lettering. I don't see the point of it, personally, but there is no need to attack any department for choosing it. It's my understanding that many NY Volly Chiefs use their cars for personal business so that they are always able to respond while in or near district. This makes sense and I wouldn't consider it abuse if it's part of their department's policies.
It's also possible that when the public sees a chiefs vehicle at the grocery store, and don't understand why, they will consider it abuse (as you stated), when it actully is done for a good reason. Maybe they are trying to avoid bad press? The public also thinks that when we shut our lights and sirens off en route, that we are just playing with them. If these towns could afford to have a Chief sit in the station all day and wait for calls, I'm sure they would.

Here are a few photos from the parade in Seaside Heights NJ the past weekend. batch is all Seaside Heights fire Dept.

While college degrees and coursework may not provide an individual directly with job skills, they do provide workers with critical thinking and communication skills that are useful in any line of employment, especially in ours. As public and political pressure increases, we need leaders, who can represent our services accurately, and use critical thinking and communication to get the job done. Also, it is worth mentioning that a great deal of NYS and NFA training classes also count for college credit...

Oh man this thread is great. I'm dying over here! I love the extemely vague information both NYRRT and EMRNYC websites. Look at the amount of photoshopping here: http://www.emrnyc.com/segway.htm
Especially the pic with Bloomy. This is GOLD!!

Your post doesn't make me apprehensive at all.
As of this moment, there is no proof or evidence at all that a "meltdown" has occurred in Japan. There are certainly quake-damaged fuel assemblies, and some RCS has boiled off and carried aloft some miniscule traces of fission products. There was a huge amount of radiation released locally when the fuel was uncovered, but that has since diminished. The main focus right now is getting the cooling restored and stablizing the coolant levels. This will eliminate the hydrogen threat, which is what did most of the damage, and provide shielding so that further repairs can take place.
This accident is much more severe than Three Mile Island, but is not even close to Chernobyl.
This is still a developing event, and I am not surprised that the media is doing its level best to whip up an Armageddon scenario. So far, it doesn't look like the American public is taking the bait. If you want real "news" about what's going on with this, go to the ANS, IAEA, or NEI websites. By far the biggest life threats to the Japanese people are hunger, lack of potable water, lack of sanitation, disease, and exposure to the elements, not radiation. Let's not lose focus because of screaming headlines from "news" agencies.

I really think any radiation that makes it's way to the united states will likely be negligible and far too dilute. The accident at chernobyl was far, far worse than this (at this juncture at least) and actually propelled nuclear fuel and fission products far into the atmosphere....what made it's way here, while detectable, never really amounted to much. As long as the reactor vessels hold up (apparently there may be some leakage or a breach at #2) the melted corium will remain intact and confined to it's respective vessel and pose little risk to the general public. The spent fuel pools are a different story and are a bit more concerning...but again we just don't know all that much.
I think everyone is concerned and its good to stay on top of things. But, let's not stir up fears prematurely. There is no reason to go out and get potassium iodine pills and cover ourselves in lead. It's a delicate situation, but not out of the realm of being dealt with. Aside from that, the information available to the public is limited. Flying gives you 5x you're normal daily dose of radiation....radiographs & CT scans give you far more (~months dose or so)...should we stop flying and should MDs stop ordering these tests?

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