Tanker 10eng

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    First correction from my post, it was Caledonia, NY, not Avon (both in Livingston County).attachicon.gifcrc1.jpg

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    This was an 800x150x7 story grain storage building with dry fertilizer in the northern quarter of the building. 28 tankers (from 4 counties) fed from 2 fill sites, dumped to 3 quad-pond set ups, 3 engines drafting to 4 aerial waterways. Water supply was interupted once to bring in a deisel truck.

    This is what you dump 28 tankers for!

    Anyway, it goes back to practicing your tanker operations.If you train enough with it, just like any task on our job, it becomes second nature. And it never hurts to train with some of your further reaching neighbors either.

    DWC - not to take away from this thread, but you brought it up.... 28 tankers and 2 fill sites ??? what equals a fill site ??? ( I engine filling tankers / 2 engines filling tankers from the same water source )

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    -7 Engines (not counting coverage companies)

    - Assuming there was only 1 draft site, subtract one of those, leaving you with 6 Engines on scene

    -8 Tankers

    -1 Rescue

    -1 Truck

    - A handful of utilities (including Mt Kiscos FASTbulance, which I'll count as a rescue for purposes of discussion because of its staffing and responsibilities)

    We dispatch 4 Engines and 3 Specials on all box alarms. So is 6 Engines and 3 Specials really so ridiculous for a multi-alarm fire with access issues?

    8 tankers may require two fill sites ??? so might make it 5 engines on scene... and with all the snow around, its a manpower sucker... I know nothing of this call, but good job by all who worked it...

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    why ??? in this case 4000 reasons... and from sympathomedic calculations, to save 5 maybe 6 minutes ??? really ?? logic is where ?

    In my clueless opinion, is not worth it.. Sorry if you think differently then me, but every time I get behind the wheel of an apparatus, I am concerned for the safety of my crew behind me all the idiots, friends and family on these roads I am traveling... shouldn't every driver think like that? STOP kidding your self... public safety is job # 1 and going through a red light is not safe for the general public...

    M'ave - this is not NYC, where traveling blocks can take a long time with the traffic, ( Might you I do not have allot of experience in driving down there, but have discussed it with many drivers )so if it what they want to do, so be it... they are FDNY ... and I have read back through this discussion and it seems split of the YES and NO's here... so are we really reading the same thing...

    Look if you really feel RLS are needed for mutual aid, so be it, but god help you if your in an accident and someone is killed for a mutual aid stand by... the lawyers will have a field day with it.

    From this incident, has the department kept or changed their policy on RLS for coverage calls ?

    Bottom of Da Hill, calhobs, Remember585 and 1 other like this

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    I am not really sure of the actual radio call times ins, BUT actually Tanker 15 was first on the scene, dropping a supply line at the base of the driveway and pulling up to the house. Tanker10 then remained on the road and set up a nursing operation in case water was needed... Along with Millwood's next due engine.

    Before someone starts questioning...

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    The RH is similar to what we have been using in the Millwood/Yorktown/Croton area... depending on the size of the fire, the engine up the driveway will drop its 5 inch LDH and we connect a 5 inch gated Wye to the end. Two 5 inch lines are attached and the first tanker connects to that and pumps off ( 3000 gal is norm ), when the 2nd tanker arrives, it connects to the other 5 inch LDH and once the first tanker is empty, it starts pumping... then the 1st one disconnects and heads out to refill... but this needs to be looked at first and placement needs to be thought out, as once things are up and running, its hard to change your mind...

    And... I have found that filling one tanker at a time is the best approach, to maximize water flow ( until we had the Yorktown fire and we used the hydrant at Millwood's sub station.... we were able to fill 2 tankers at the same time, with very little loss of time, if any )

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  24. Posted

    I saw the supply line issue too.. I have seen that happen first hand with our 84 Mack... At a working industrial fire, we had the 5 inch line get charged at the hydrant, I stepped off the beaver tail and watched 5 inch hose filling with water coming towards the engine.... then looked back at the engine and saw members sitting on the alum. hose bed covers.... by the time I could yell "look out" they were being tossed about....... bottom line, hydrant men need to make sure they are getting orders from their rig...