ex-commish

I think its paramount that everyone who belongs to a labor union, whether or not your private or public sector to oppose this proposed repeal. It would mean the literal enslavement of the public sector workers that would be suject to the whim's of administrators and politicans currying votes. I'm not public sector, but i'm private sector union and I know the damage it can do to a union; It's tantamount to putting a knife into someone with their back turned away from you. The playing field has to be level. It has to be stopped at all costs.

God Bless

1 Dead, 121 Injured in Train Crash in Mount Vernon
By chiefhac
And so read the headlines in all the newspapers the morning after the trains collided in Mount Vernon on the evening of June 8, 1973, forty years ago.
The train collision would spark 10 days busy activity for the Mount Vernon Fire Department (MVFD) using all of its resources and with neighboring communities responding to the incident(s) or relocating to staff fire stations.
It was 40 years ago on Friday evening June 8, 1973 at approximately 7:30 PM on a warm spring evening that 2 trains collided on the east bound express track on the New Haven line near Brookdale Place and East First Street. The relocated Mount Vernon East station platform was still under construction and the local track was temporarily out of service, thereby both local and express trains were operating through Mount Vernon on the express track. The local was in the station to disembark passengers when the express train, failing to stop for a red signal, ran head on into the rear of the stopped train.
The fire department was dispatched and upon arrival was met by a thousand or so of people wondering about and attempting to exit both trains. Additional alarms were transmitted and additional manpower was readily available as it was the evening of the volunteer firefighter’s annual inspection and they responded in force. Almost all responding personnel were used in assisting passengers off the train and to those requiring medical assistance, to an aid station and then transported to the local hospitals.
In the rear car of the local train 2 victims were trapped, one dead on arrival, and the other, seriously injured, was pinned in the lavatory of the last car. Rescue 1 and Ladder 1 were assigned to extricate these individuals. The individual in the lavatory was an Australian Consulate to the UN. The extrication required cutting through the floor under where he was located and then smashing the toilet and letting it drop through the opening made in the floor, allowing for his safe removal. A sloppy and time consuming job it was, ask me!
Mutual aid companies responded for a variety of reasons, scene lighting being a major issue, and some companies self dispatched, adding to scene confusion when everyone wants to help. Most of the passengers requiring medical treatment were transported within the first hour or so. For each injured passenger there had to be 10 other passengers whose sole interest was in how they were going to complete their journey to Connecticut and home.
Somewhere in the middle of the week there was a third alarm fire on South Thirteenth or Fourteenth Avenue which consumed 3 attached row apartments.
On Saturday evening June 16 at approximately 7 PM a fire was reported in the Pioneer super market located on Park Avenue and Elm Avenue, just over the Park Avenue Bridge over the New Haven rail line and 2/10ths of a mile from the train crash. The fire would require a general alarm with all MVFD companies operating at the fire scene until after midnight.
On Sunday morning, June 17, around 8 AM fire alarm box 1231 was pulled by a passerby for a fire in the A & P super market located on East First Street and First Avenue, on the other side of the Park Avenue Bridge from the previous night’s fire and 2/10ths of a mile from the train crash. This fire would also require all MVFD companies to bring it under control, with the last units picking up at 4 PM.
I was the assigned driver of the rescue company for the train crash and, back working days, the A & P fire. At approximately 7:45 AM Sunday morning we were dispatched to meet Con Edison at a gas leak at Ninth Avenue and West First Street and en route passed the A & P and did not notice any sign of smoke or fire. When we were called by dispatch to respond on the initial alarm, we couldn’t believe the column of smoke in the air as we headed back down First Street.
Each of these incidents required the full complement of MVFD companies and surrounding mutual aid companies to backfill in Mount Vernon fire stations.
The good news was no fire station commissary was in need of coffee, condiments, etc. for at least 6 months.
And so it was 40 years ago!
chiefhac
6/7/2013
Slideshow of incident:

I thought at one time Westchester County was going to a universal accountability system when the battalion coordinators were created. Am I wrong on this?

May they all rest in peace

wow it showed the building was on fire

I take a few things away from this article :
1) New Yorkers have let their lawmakers trample their rights.
2) Don't drive when your license is suspended.
3) Don't drive your suspended licensed self around in a car with broken stuff on it.
4) When breaking two laws, try to avoid interacting with the police.
5) When breaking laws, don't be carrying a handgun and be shocked when the police ask to hold on to it for a minute.
6) Here in NY, don't be a test case for the SAFE Act, especially when numbers 2 thru 5 apply to you.

With regard to the search and seizure issues raised:
Was the gun on his person or in the car? If he was arrested for Aggravated Unlicensed Operation (or any charge), he would have been searched proir to being secured in the troopers car and most likely the firearm seized for officer’s safety. In clearing the weapon, the amount of rounds would have been observed. Any contraband found on his person would be admissible. The courts have held that LEOs may conduct a search of the “immediate area of the subjects control” for officers safety. Again no search and seizure issues. They can also ask he exit the vehicle and the officers perform a pat down for officer’s safety if they feel it is warranted under the circumstances. If the subject was not able to turn the vehicle over to a licensed driver, the vehicle was most likely impounded and towed. Prior to towing, many departments require an inventory search of the vehicle’s contents in order to prevent lawsuits for “missing items”. Providing that it is done uniformly on all impounds, it’s been upheld as a reasonable action. Any item found in the vehicle (with certain exceptions) is admissible in court. Any item in “plain view” is also admissible. With the amount of information provided in the story, it seems that the weapon would have been lawfully discovered under a number of scenarios.
Given the limited course of events identified in the story, I am glad that the DA chose not to prosecute for the two extra bullets. I am hoping that this action sounds loud and clear in Albany. As many of you have seen, I feel that the law and the politicians that enacted this piece of trash legislation belong in the trash.

Congrats, good luck, and be safe!!

As we head into it....

Well, I was really depending on that win! Maybe I was in Florida, who knows lol! $600 million is kind of ridiculous for one person that's not me nor anyone from this site. I was really looking forward to giving a lot of money to a lot of charities that need it. We should come up with an EMTBravo Lotto pool for these types of lottery drawings.

If you left a donut on the ground the cop would have come down , sorry GrumpyFF !

Great job..glad to see some positive news especially when it involves our youth

If this was intended for me I feel I don't have to respect someone who is responsible for killing 4 people one of them an 8 year old kid and a cop and also injured many others to a point they have lost limbs and their quality of life has changed forever both physically and mentally. He was not human, he was a terrorist...period!

I am reading a lot of great comments on this subject. One standard seems to be the common thread.
Lets try and agree on some common "facts" there are well trained firefighters both career and volunteer.
Having said that. ITS THE PEOPLE THAT WE ARE SWORN TO PROTECT THAT DESERVE THE BEST/WELL TRAINED FIREFIGHTERS.
One fire-- ten fires--fifty fires how many does it take to injury and or kill a firefighter ---answer one
If you want to help your community and cannot make the common standard--and that my friends is only the minium-- go to the parks and receration and grab a rake or broom, I am sure can help cleanup.
Again lets not lose sight of the big picture--We as firefighters are in business to protect the people of our town/village/city/fire district. We do not send un trained police out there why do we send untrained or undertrained fire personnel out there?? dont even think the answer is because IT'S Free. or they do the best they can that dosent make it in this century.
I have listened to many of the following: you cant expect us to put in all thoses hours. we take time away from our families. We do the best we can it doesnt fly in 2013
I grew up playing basball--third base for the little league Cubs-- I know i cant play for the Yankees--wait maby I can but you get the picture. Lets all be major leagures here. ONE STANDARD thats not too much to ask to protect our citizens.
EOR---end of rant

If this was intended for me I feel I don't have to respect someone who is responsible for killing 4 people one of them an 8 year old kid and a cop and also injured many others to a point they have lost limbs and their quality of life has changed forever both physically and mentally. He was not human, he was a terrorist...period!

What would Islam do if it were an American who committed a terrorist act in a Muslim Country? I think it would look something like: Hang him by his feet from a crane in a public place, light him on fire and mail the video to Al-Jazeera.
Never Forget

Unfortunatly, Hussein Obama would never allow that so as not to offend his friends and colleagues.

Good job!!

Congratulations and prayers for a speedy recovery.

Title, blue light, service award, not to mention other benefits. I joined in an era where you got nothing but your gear and uniform. Annual picnic you paid out of your pocket and was glad to do it. You were told to keep your mouth shut and learn. You never had to be told to do anything you just did it. Community service meant something. Now it's all about "what can I get?".

Title, blue light, service award, not to mention other benefits. I joined in an era where you got nothing but your gear and uniform. Annual picnic you paid out of your pocket and was glad to do it. You were told to keep your mouth shut and learn. You never had to be told to do anything you just did it. Community service meant something. Now it's all about "what can I get?".

Title, blue light, service award, not to mention other benefits. I joined in an era where you got nothing but your gear and uniform. Annual picnic you paid out of your pocket and was glad to do it. You were told to keep your mouth shut and learn. You never had to be told to do anything you just did it. Community service meant something. Now it's all about "what can I get?".

Or maybe our softer, gentler society has had some unintended consequences...

I kind of lump that stuff all together, along with the entitlement society. "You mean I actually have to do dirty, sweaty, grimy WORK, and go into hazardous situations, I just wanted the title and the blue lights for my car"