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I would hope a School Teacher would not Volunteer at all. After all why would somebody in a Union be a Hypocrite and Volunteer for anything if not getting Paid! Right fellow Union Brothers? Yeah Right!

Ok so are you really all going to make excuses??? He was f---king shopping!!!!!!
Stop acting like he wasn't. He used the car and the gas to go shopping g and even if he went to some conference it doesn't say get off thruway to hit the outlets!!!!!
Stop with the excuses!!!!!!

Ok so are you really all going to make excuses??? He was f---king shopping!!!!!!
Stop acting like he wasn't. He used the car and the gas to go shopping g and even if he went to some conference it doesn't say get off thruway to hit the outlets!!!!!
Stop with the excuses!!!!!!

Ok so are you really all going to make excuses??? He was f---king shopping!!!!!!
Stop acting like he wasn't. He used the car and the gas to go shopping g and even if he went to some conference it doesn't say get off thruway to hit the outlets!!!!!
Stop with the excuses!!!!!!

Ok so are you really all going to make excuses??? He was f---king shopping!!!!!!
Stop acting like he wasn't. He used the car and the gas to go shopping g and even if he went to some conference it doesn't say get off thruway to hit the outlets!!!!!
Stop with the excuses!!!!!!

Ok so are you really all going to make excuses??? He was f---king shopping!!!!!!
Stop acting like he wasn't. He used the car and the gas to go shopping g and even if he went to some conference it doesn't say get off thruway to hit the outlets!!!!!
Stop with the excuses!!!!!!

and RUN FAST!!!!!
you only have to be faster then the last guy!

and RUN FAST!!!!!
you only have to be faster then the last guy!

come on its not a parade now,its a hazmat call you dont run away,

RUN!!!!!

RUN!!!!!

no i wouldnt waste my time drinking and walking around acting like your a hero

how about stay in district and protect it like you signed up for instead of another dumb parade
Domenick

What I can't believe is that there is actually a discussion about this. R U effin kidding me? Who the "F" cares fellows call it as you see it!

What defines a working fire?
When members of the department show up who you haven't seen in months for training, meetings, etc. and they are the first ones on the rigs and there throwing didicated members off. That's when you know it a working fire.

It's not just the training. There should also be a physical standard. Career firefighters I. Westchester have to pass a CPAT to get into the academy and another CPAT to get out. Why is it not the same for the volunteers? Has anyone noticed what I have? A simple pat on the back from the doctor does not mean your capable of fighting a fire or doing 90% of the other work we do as firefighters both career and volunteer. We do the same job why is it not treated the same? As a chief of a dept don't you want the best? Or do you want the kids that was sheltered by his parents playing video games and being told everyone gets a trophy during tball. If you don't make a change that's what your getting. Half of the new kids signing up have no idea that there life is on the line and the choice they made to become a firefighter can be tested at any moment and the may have to act with courage to save a life. They DONT get it and YOUR responsible!!!!

It's not just the training. There should also be a physical standard. Career firefighters I. Westchester have to pass a CPAT to get into the academy and another CPAT to get out. Why is it not the same for the volunteers? Has anyone noticed what I have? A simple pat on the back from the doctor does not mean your capable of fighting a fire or doing 90% of the other work we do as firefighters both career and volunteer. We do the same job why is it not treated the same? As a chief of a dept don't you want the best? Or do you want the kids that was sheltered by his parents playing video games and being told everyone gets a trophy during tball. If you don't make a change that's what your getting. Half of the new kids signing up have no idea that there life is on the line and the choice they made to become a firefighter can be tested at any moment and the may have to act with courage to save a life. They DONT get it and YOUR responsible!!!!

Well, if that's true, I stand corrected. So that would mean that the state on NY feels that a Career fire fighter life is more valuable then a volunteer's? That my brothers is just total BS and I can't believe you (and me many years ago) put up with that. This does go alone with what I have been saying, Westchester Fire Departments need to become better organized and change the things that are wrong with the system, stop just going along with things because that's how it's always been done.

On the contrary in NY paid firefighters have mandatory basic and in-service training. Volunteers do not although most volunteer deparments do require FF! and some FF2 as well but that is under home rule and not dictated by the state.

Just another paid position on a rotten fish. Being paid is not always the answer. How about every volunteer on this board, or better yet in this area write a letter and make a copies. Send one to FASNY, and the others to your elected officials demanding the same training as our paid counterparts. Professional firefighter training (and yearly refresher training) is written into law, remove the professional (paid) label so that firefighter training for both volunteer and paid is the same. The state will have find additional funding in the budget to accomplish this. FASNY would also have to be persuaded to support this. I think a lot of the problems we see in this area would improve. Might put a dent in some of the recruitment efforts, but maybe the ones who complain about training are not the people we want joining.

I think a physical agility test for volunteers as well as an equal training standard for both career and volunteer firefighters should be the first step in thinking forward!!!
Domenick

I think a physical agility test for volunteers as well as an equal training standard for both career and volunteer firefighters should be the first step in thinking forward!!!
Domenick

Just embarrassing

good to see some that would rather use there time to train then march in a parade! goodd job to all involved!

good to see some that would rather use there time to train then march in a parade! goodd job to all involved!