AFS1970

Date: 01/21/2017
Time: 19:32
Location: 15 Deepwood Dr
District: Long Ridge
Channel: Ground 4, Tac 3 (Water Supply)
Weather: 47 degrees & foggy
Units: Long Ridge: E71, E74, K78, R77, 714 (Lt), 715 (Lt), FM710 (C&O), C711 (Chief)
          Turn of River: K68       
          Stamford: E9, E8, E5 (Tanker Fill), E7 (RIT), T2, R1, U4 (Deputy Chief/IC), U1 (Chief), U2 (Asst. Chief), U11 (Asst. Chief), U121 (Mechanic), U8 (Safety), FM101 (C&O)
          Belltown: E41 (Special Called)
          Banksville: K7, 2581 (Water Supply)
          Pound Ridge: K3, 2402
          SEMS: M1
          SPD: 4A29, 4C10, 8S3 (Sergeant)
Writer:  AFS1970

Description: Neighbor reported house fire. Long Ridge Lt. arrived on scene and confirmed working fire. Tanker from TRFD en route shortly thereafter. Additional Tanker from Banksville called also. 1 Firefighter fell through a floor. All crews pulled out of building. Additional engine special called for relief. 
*** Stamford uses K as unit designation for tankers. For consistency I also used it for Banksville & Pound Ridge despite Westchester not using that designation. ***

Date: 01/21/2017
Time: 19:32
Location: 15 Deepwood Dr
District: Long Ridge
Channel: Ground 4, Tac 3 (Water Supply)
Weather: 47 degrees & foggy
Units: Long Ridge: E71, E74, K78, R77, 714 (Lt), 715 (Lt), FM710 (C&O), C711 (Chief)
          Turn of River: K68       
          Stamford: E9, E8, E5 (Tanker Fill), E7 (RIT), T2, R1, U4 (Deputy Chief/IC), U1 (Chief), U2 (Asst. Chief), U11 (Asst. Chief), U121 (Mechanic), U8 (Safety), FM101 (C&O)
          Belltown: E41 (Special Called)
          Banksville: K7, 2581 (Water Supply)
          Pound Ridge: K3, 2402
          SEMS: M1
          SPD: 4A29, 4C10, 8S3 (Sergeant)
Writer:  AFS1970

Description: Neighbor reported house fire. Long Ridge Lt. arrived on scene and confirmed working fire. Tanker from TRFD en route shortly thereafter. Additional Tanker from Banksville called also. 1 Firefighter fell through a floor. All crews pulled out of building. Additional engine special called for relief. 
*** Stamford uses K as unit designation for tankers. For consistency I also used it for Banksville & Pound Ridge despite Westchester not using that designation. ***

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The telesquirts in Stamford were assigned to E4 & E5. At one point these were also 5 man companies, due to being the only rigs at the time alone in a station. E4 had a Mack CF and E5 had a Hamerly. Later on E1 in Stamford briefly used a Pierce telesquirt that had been in service in Long Ridge as E71. The 5th men on E4 & E5 I believe became part of the additional manpower on T2 & T3 when they finally became 4 man companies. There are no longer any telesquirts in service in Stamford.
 
The mini pumper at Stamford HQ was the predecessor to R1, at least manpower wise. From what I understand it was bought because it could fit into parking garages. That crew became the original R1,Riding Turn of River's old R66 that went to Stamford in the early 1980's.
 
 

Thanks for the info. Only having been up in one (Springdale T56) once, and that was at a muster, I know next to nothing about Snorkels. I have heard of the advantages being that they can go up and over fences and power lines. I am not so sure how much I would want to be in a metal box that was attached to a boom with power lines running through the middle. What are some of the disadvantages? I know Chicago is using 55 ft units, so I assume height/reach to be a limiting factor. 
 
As an aside, on that LA roll over incident, was the rig driving or operating the boom? It looked like the snorkel boom was not a major factor if it rolled while driving. As cool as open cabs are, I can see the lack of a roof being more of a factor in an LODD. 
 
Also what is HU3? Saw it in one of the LA pics, just curious.
 

Looking for some information on Snorkels. I am only somewhat familiar with them and have never used one. I know that Stamford's now disbanded Truck 4 used one but that was before my time. Springdale had one and it was old and rarely used when they got rid of it. I remember Noroton Heights having one until they replaced it with a quint.
 
I have read that ALF bought Snorkel then shut down that division and stopped making them.
 
I know Chicago still uses them but I am not sure who makes them. I had heard possibly Pierce or Rosenbauer.
 
Any major cities / counties other than Chicago use them? I remember seeing historical pictures of LA using them, but nothing current.
 
I know Springdale's was 85 ft & Chicago uses 55 ft. Anyone know if other sizes were made or are available?
 
Are there any still in service in NY or CT?

The telesquirts in Stamford were assigned to E4 & E5. At one point these were also 5 man companies, due to being the only rigs at the time alone in a station. E4 had a Mack CF and E5 had a Hamerly. Later on E1 in Stamford briefly used a Pierce telesquirt that had been in service in Long Ridge as E71. The 5th men on E4 & E5 I believe became part of the additional manpower on T2 & T3 when they finally became 4 man companies. There are no longer any telesquirts in service in Stamford.
 
The mini pumper at Stamford HQ was the predecessor to R1, at least manpower wise. From what I understand it was bought because it could fit into parking garages. That crew became the original R1,Riding Turn of River's old R66 that went to Stamford in the early 1980's.
 
 

The telesquirts in Stamford were assigned to E4 & E5. At one point these were also 5 man companies, due to being the only rigs at the time alone in a station. E4 had a Mack CF and E5 had a Hamerly. Later on E1 in Stamford briefly used a Pierce telesquirt that had been in service in Long Ridge as E71. The 5th men on E4 & E5 I believe became part of the additional manpower on T2 & T3 when they finally became 4 man companies. There are no longer any telesquirts in service in Stamford.
 
The mini pumper at Stamford HQ was the predecessor to R1, at least manpower wise. From what I understand it was bought because it could fit into parking garages. That crew became the original R1,Riding Turn of River's old R66 that went to Stamford in the early 1980's.
 
 

The telesquirts in Stamford were assigned to E4 & E5. At one point these were also 5 man companies, due to being the only rigs at the time alone in a station. E4 had a Mack CF and E5 had a Hamerly. Later on E1 in Stamford briefly used a Pierce telesquirt that had been in service in Long Ridge as E71. The 5th men on E4 & E5 I believe became part of the additional manpower on T2 & T3 when they finally became 4 man companies. There are no longer any telesquirts in service in Stamford.
 
The mini pumper at Stamford HQ was the predecessor to R1, at least manpower wise. From what I understand it was bought because it could fit into parking garages. That crew became the original R1,Riding Turn of River's old R66 that went to Stamford in the early 1980's.
 
 

Thanks for the info. Only having been up in one (Springdale T56) once, and that was at a muster, I know next to nothing about Snorkels. I have heard of the advantages being that they can go up and over fences and power lines. I am not so sure how much I would want to be in a metal box that was attached to a boom with power lines running through the middle. What are some of the disadvantages? I know Chicago is using 55 ft units, so I assume height/reach to be a limiting factor. 
 
As an aside, on that LA roll over incident, was the rig driving or operating the boom? It looked like the snorkel boom was not a major factor if it rolled while driving. As cool as open cabs are, I can see the lack of a roof being more of a factor in an LODD. 
 
Also what is HU3? Saw it in one of the LA pics, just curious.
 

The telesquirts in Stamford were assigned to E4 & E5. At one point these were also 5 man companies, due to being the only rigs at the time alone in a station. E4 had a Mack CF and E5 had a Hamerly. Later on E1 in Stamford briefly used a Pierce telesquirt that had been in service in Long Ridge as E71. The 5th men on E4 & E5 I believe became part of the additional manpower on T2 & T3 when they finally became 4 man companies. There are no longer any telesquirts in service in Stamford.
 
The mini pumper at Stamford HQ was the predecessor to R1, at least manpower wise. From what I understand it was bought because it could fit into parking garages. That crew became the original R1,Riding Turn of River's old R66 that went to Stamford in the early 1980's.
 
 

I have no idea how the operators of those two HUGE rigs were able to get them through some of those streets with cars parked on both sides.
 
 Then once they got there, came the job of being able to get that bucket up. That required the use of those outriggers to be come out and put down. The distance of the overall spread was much more than other aerials or tower ladders.
 
 What a GREAT JOB those guys did operating a truck of that size on some of those NYC streets.

I know at one time Connecticut also had snorkels. As posted above, I believe there was one in Stamford.
 
Also Bridgeport, Stratford, Groton, and I believe Cheshire also had one.
 
 My brother worked Bridgeports Snorkel out of fire headquarters as both a firefighter and as a Lt. If anybody knows where fire headquarters is, there is a railroad overpass just to the right of that firehouse. Because of the height of that snorkel truck, if it snowed and they needed to put chains on, that truck would NOT fit under that railroad over pass. It would require them to turn in the opposite direction and take a much longer route to the incident.
 
 In addition, although the bucket is able to go over wires and tree branches, "for every action there is a reaction". Sometimes it might not have been able to make the swing because of where the lower and upper boom section met. Like folding your arm trying to get through a small hole with your elbow extended.
 
 In addition, many snorkels had a long overhang extending beyond the front of the cab. Making it very difficult to turn onto many streets if light poles etc were in the way. I remember Jersey City's Snorkel and that must have had at east a six foot overhang of the resting boom in front of that cab.

Oh good a study. Why waste the money and just have the city write the answer they want on a single sheet of paper. Consultants are paid to say way you pay them to say, and it rarely works out well for the fire service.
 

Thanks for the info. Only having been up in one (Springdale T56) once, and that was at a muster, I know next to nothing about Snorkels. I have heard of the advantages being that they can go up and over fences and power lines. I am not so sure how much I would want to be in a metal box that was attached to a boom with power lines running through the middle. What are some of the disadvantages? I know Chicago is using 55 ft units, so I assume height/reach to be a limiting factor. 
 
As an aside, on that LA roll over incident, was the rig driving or operating the boom? It looked like the snorkel boom was not a major factor if it rolled while driving. As cool as open cabs are, I can see the lack of a roof being more of a factor in an LODD. 
 
Also what is HU3? Saw it in one of the LA pics, just curious.
 

Date: 1-17-16
Time: 13:42
Location: 13 Custis Ave C/S Washington Ave N and Hillandale Ave
District: North White Plains
Battalion: 19
Channel: Fire 19
Weather: 40F, rain
Units:  North White Plains FD      Ladder 47, Engine 74, Rescue 33, Car 2322
           Valhalla FD                        Tower Ladder 49, Car 2481
           Thornwood FD                  Rescue 75 (FAST), Car 2471
           West Harrison FD              Engine 265
            Valhalla EMS                     82-B-3
            North Castle PD                Car 30
            WCDES                             County Car 4, Cause And Origin Zone 5
Writer:  x635

Description: Reported electrical outlet on fire in bathroom.
 
13:48  Car 2481 on location, 10-75
 
13:52 Car 2481 reporting 1 line stretched and operating
 
14:36 Car 2322 placing fire under control

 

Looking for some information on Snorkels. I am only somewhat familiar with them and have never used one. I know that Stamford's now disbanded Truck 4 used one but that was before my time. Springdale had one and it was old and rarely used when they got rid of it. I remember Noroton Heights having one until they replaced it with a quint.
 
I have read that ALF bought Snorkel then shut down that division and stopped making them.
 
I know Chicago still uses them but I am not sure who makes them. I had heard possibly Pierce or Rosenbauer.
 
Any major cities / counties other than Chicago use them? I remember seeing historical pictures of LA using them, but nothing current.
 
I know Springdale's was 85 ft & Chicago uses 55 ft. Anyone know if other sizes were made or are available?
 
Are there any still in service in NY or CT?

Date: 01/15/17
Time: 0920hrs
Location: 2314 Route 32
District: Vails Gate/Town of Cornwall
Battalion: 4
Channel: 
Weather: Clear/cool
Units: VGFD C2, C3, R480, E481, E478, T482, NWEMS/ALS, T/Cornwall PD, T/Cornwall Building Inspector
Writer: BFD1054
Description: Car into a building with injuries 
0920hrs-Base-5 alerting Vails Gate for the MVA, car into a building, 2314 Route 32.
 
 - While en-route, Base-5 advised VGFD units of possible entrapment and serious injuries as per Cornwall PD.
 
VGFD Car-3 arrived, established command and advised he had (1) car into a 2-story wood frame commercial building.
Car-3 then advised that the driver (sole occupant) was not entrapped, but still in the vehicle in and out of consciousness.
 
R480 arrived with its crew splitting into patient care and stabilization of the vehicle.
 
E481 was advised to gain entry into the building to assess the damage. E481's officer advised of minor damage to the 1/2 corner, but the building was otherwise stable.
 
Car-2 arrived and oversaw operations.
 
T482 was directed to pass the scene and stand by at the Solid Rock Church for a possible LZ (Medevac was later cancelled).
 
E479 and T484 (Sta. 2) re-directed to station-1 for coverage.
 
New Windsor EMS/ALS arrived and took over patient care. 
 
Command requested the Town of Cornwall Building Inspector to the scene. E481 remained on scene for the building inspector, with all other units returning to service.

THANK YOU x635.
 
To the family and friends of Detective Steven McDonald my sincere condolences.
 
Your loss is shared by the entire country as this story is told. Detective McDonald as I see it is a Saint. His story of forgiveness and his suffering goes beyond what most of us would consider a Hero.
 
I can NOT imagine what it was like to be confined to a wheelchair for the rest of my life, and not be able to move my arms or hands ever again.
 
From the time he woke up in the morning, until the time he went to bed at night, he was at the mercy of someone being there to do it for him. Doing the simplest routine things he could NOT do. Like getting dressed in the morning, brushing his teeth, feeding himself, changing the channel on the television, scratching an itch, or holding his wifes hand. But despite that, Detective McDonald FORGAVE THE YOUTH THAT SHOT HIM.
 
 Detective McDonald needs to be remembered for this. While here on earth Detective McDonald did his job well. From his days as a New York City Police Officer, to his final days of confinement in his wheel chair. With no ability to fend for himself.
 
 I never met Detective McDonald. I sure wish I did though. He will be one individual that I will NEVER FORGET. I will remember him for the HERO he was. I will remember him for the suffering he went through and for the kind of man he was.
 
 THANK YOU Detective McDonald for the job you have done. May you now Rest in Peace.
 
 Here is his story.
 
www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ6a3miemqs

 
http://nypost.com/2017/01/10/paralyzed-nypd-hero-steven-mcdonald-dies-at-59/

LOL, history is repeating itself here. 
 
If you want to know what fallout (sorry) will come from a major nuclear power plant closure, just look at what happened 25+ years ago when Andrew Cuomo's father Mario Cuomo was the governor of NY state, and pushed agreements to shut down Long Island's brand sparkling new Shoreham nuclear power plant.
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/03/01/nyregion/cuomo-and-lilco-sign-a-new-accord-to-shut-shoreham.html?pagewanted=all
 
The electricity customers on Long Island got hosed on that one, and instead of getting cheaper electricity rates from the nuclear plant , they have paid some of the highest rates in the country for the past 25 years. 
http://www.newsday.com/long-island/lipa-electricity-among-priciest-in-northeast-1.11937361
 
The school district where the Long Island plant was located, which used to be one of the best school districts in the whole country also got hosed when they lost a major source of school tax revenue. 
http://www.nytimes.com/1991/11/12/nyregion/the-fallout-of-the-demise-of-shoreham.html?pagewanted=all
 
There are a lot of reasons why Mario Cuomo was eventually voted out of the NY governor's office, but the anger of many Long Islanders over the forced Shoreham nuclear plant shut down was part of it.   I'm surprised our current governor does not think that the Indian Point shutdown will have a similar political blowback to his political career..
 
Also, Is it really a good idea to switch a major portion of NYC's energy supply to come from a 333 mile long electric line from Quebec, Canada??? 
 
 

 
If you reread my post,  you might figure out that the people I was calling sneaky, was the city administration, NOT the rank and file members.  As stated above,  the unions tried to say "it isn't fair that we have to pay city income tax while not residing in the city." and they would be right as a stipulation that you pay income tax based on your home of record.   For NYC(Administration) to then just make it a "fee" for working there,  THAT is the BS part.

Especially now that departments are much more certification / classroom dependent, I think giving easy tests are actually not doing the recruits any favors in that the test does nothing to prepare them for the academy. Like it or not there will be a final exam and that one (at least in theory) is going to be based on knowledge that is learned and applied.

Especially now that departments are much more certification / classroom dependent, I think giving easy tests are actually not doing the recruits any favors in that the test does nothing to prepare them for the academy. Like it or not there will be a final exam and that one (at least in theory) is going to be based on knowledge that is learned and applied.

Oh this should end well for everyone. Where will they be getting all this new energy? Canada? Really? Wind Farms? That should be able to create the same amount of energy of a nuclear power plant. I know Indian Point is old and could use a updating but you cant just cut a quarter of the power and think everything is gonna be ok.