DaRock98

If you guys want to be taken seriously on here maybe you should type in complete sentences and use proper puncuation. Just sayin.

Date: 06/16/12

Time: 0516

Location: TSP NB on the ramp for 9A NB

Frequency: 46.26, Fire 11 and 12, EMS 11, and 12

Units Operating:

Briarcliff: 2051, 2052, 2053, E94, E92, R37 and 53-B2

Hawthorne: 2193, E155 and 63-B2

Medic- 36-M1 and 37-M1

NYSP

Weather Conditions: Sunny and clear

Description Of Incident:

05:26-Briarcliff Fire and EMS with Hawthorne Fire and EMS dispatched to TSP NB in the area of MM 4.9 for MVA with pin possible fatal injuries.

05:28- 2193,2052, 63-B2 responding

05:30- 2193 on location updating location to be on the TSP NB on the exit ramp to 9A NB

05:31- 2052 on location

05:32- 2193 reporting 2 people pinned 1 possible DOA

05:33- E155, E94 responding, 63-B2 on location

0535- All units on location

0555- 1 pt extricated in the process of extricating 2nd pt.

0559- 53-B2 enroute to WMC ALS

0556- 2nd pt heavily entrapped prolonged extrication

0700- 2nd pt extricated

0705- 63B2 enroute to WMC ALS

0730- 2193 reporting all Hawthorne units clear

0745- 2051 reporting all Briarcliff units clear

Reporters: DaRock98

ALL TIMES ARE APPROX.

I may be wrong but gators are placed around the county at different FD's...this is similar to what you are saying.

I believe the county gators are housed at DES. Individual departments may have them but the county operated ones are at DES only.

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Its still not working for me.

When you open a topic it brings you to the first post in the thread not the last post you have read.

Date: 4/1/12

Time: 0155

Location: Sprain Brook Parkway SouthBound under the Grasslands Rd overpass (RT 100c)

Units Operating:

Valhalla FD: 2481, 2482, R9, E84.

Hawthorne FD: 2191, 2193, E155, U41

Valhalla EMS: 82-B3

Mt. Pleasant Medic: 37-M1

NYSP

Description Of Incident:

0155: Valhalla Fire/EMS with Hawthorne dual response dispatched to MVA rollover car over the guardrail unknown entrapment.

0157: 2482, 2193 responding

0158: 2481, R9 responding

0200: 2482, 2193 on location, E155, E84 responding

0201: 2482 confirming 1 person pinned requesting R9 to proceed in and use tools to extricate.

0201: 2481, R9, E155 and E84 on scene

0203: 2191 and U41 responding

0207: 2191 and U41 on location, 2481 requesting EMS to step it up. E155 requested to set up cutters and spreaders to assist with extrication.

0209: 3 tools in operation with extrication in progress.

0235: 2481 reporting victim has been extricated and is being packaged by EMS

0239: Valhalla 82-B3 enroute to WMC with 1 ALS

0241: Per 2481 Hawthorne units are picking up and can return to service when ready.

0255: All Hawthorne units back in service Valhalla remaining on scene for tow

0325: All Valhalla units back in service.

Reporter: DaRock98

*All times are approx.*

RIP Tyler

As DaRock98 mentioned early in the thread, they run a dual response for MVA/s and car fires. Pretty sure this is only 06:00 to 18:00.

The Saw Mill response with Hawthorne and Thornwood is 24/7.

Hawthorne and Briarcliff also just put into place a dual response on the Taconic Parkway from the Chelsea St. bridge to Pleasantville Rd.

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I see and understand your point but I think this thread is serving a good purpose. I to would feel like people were bashing me and my agency at first if I were a member of the YHFD, but what you need to do is take a step back and look at the bigger picture and remove all of your personal feelings from the situation. The bottom line is the community voted this proposal down TWICE. What is being done in my eyes is VERY shady and not ethically or morally right. I am not a member of said department so I really dont know if other options were explored.(I sure hope so)It would be nice to know the complete story from someone involved in the decision making process regarding this but they do not need to come on here and answer to the EMTbravo community as they do need to answer to the tax payers and the community they were elected to serve and protect.

Hawthorne and Elmsford have a dual response to all of the buildings in the Landmark area along with the Home Depot on 9A.

Hawthorne also runs dual response with Valhalla weekdays from 6am-6pm for all calls that may be structure related. (IE: possible structure fires, inside smoke/gas calls of that nature) and the same for the parkways(Sprain/Taconic) calls reported extrication and car fires.

Hawthorne and Thornwood also run dual response on the Saw Mill Parkway for MVAs/ car fires.

We use the 10 year cycle for all interior firefighters. After the 10 year mark they either get transfered over to the exterior members or declared surplus depending on the condition.

Are they now considered "battalion chief's" ?

At the last class I took at DES they wanted to make it very clear that they are not "chiefs" only a liaison between the IC and the DES.

BUT some think they are...

How about MA stand bys in a department qtrs? Lights and sierns? Whats your Dept policy?

No lights/sirens. There is no need to go screaming through town just to sit in someone else's HQ.

there have been several rekindle fires. South Salem was just dispatched again. 2451 enroute.

No such thing as a rekindle its called not fully extinguished

Hawthorne, NY

Fire- 381

EMS- 560

Date: 12/7/11

Time:0348

Location: 21 Clovebrook Rd

Frequency: 46.26, Fire 11 and EMS 11

Units Operating: Valhalla FD 2481, 2482(IC) E82, E84, TL 49, R9, U59

Hawthorne FD: 2191, 2192 L56

Elmsford FD: 2111, L55(fast)

Batt. 11, C&O MPPD

Valhalla VAC: 82-B2, 82-B3, 37-M1

Relocates: Thorwood TL1 and North White E74

Weather Conditions: Damp

Description Of Incident: Reports of a BBQ on fire next to the structure with possible extention to the structure.

60 control advises per MPPD flames from the rear of the structure unknown if extention at this time.

2482 on location requesting 1 engine from Hawthorne to the scene.

2482 requests 10-75 confirming extention to house

Fire quickly knocked down by engine crew

Truck companys opening up and conducting searchs

Fire placed under comtrol and all M/A was released.

*Sorry I dont have times if anyone else does PM me an I will add*

Reporters: DaRock98

Writer: DaRock98

Why not, I'm just curious. Correct me if I'm wrong but i don't believe there is any rule against asking questions.

I agree that there is no rule against asking questions but if he interpreted it as I did it sounds as if you were trying to stir the pot a little.

How do they collect the benefits if they don't get the minimum required points to qualify?

Bnechis pretty much nailed it.

It’s not hard at all to just to show up and sign your name after all the apparatus is out the door for an alarm. No matter how many changes/improvements you try to make there is always that hand full of people that look for every possible loop hole and exploit it. Bottom line is if you want to be in the VOLENTEER fire service you will do it for no gas/LOSAP/ or any other perks. Everyone knows who those people are they are the ones that are at every call, every drill and every training exercise you hold. They are the ones who are up front asking questions and participating not the guys goofing off in the back.

Sorry for the rant I will get off my soap box now.

Is this really a recruitment or retention tool or is it just a gimmick because someone wants to pay less for gas?

Its a gimmick just like LOSAP. People who are in it for the right reasons will do it and the people who aren't will continue to milk the system and contribute NOTHING to the fire service and still collect all the benefits.

Mount Pleasant - According to the United States Census Bureau, the town has a total area of 32.7 square miles (85 km²), of which, 27.7 square miles (72 km²) of it is land and 5.0 square miles (13 km²) of it (15.26%) is water.

Demographics

As of the census^[1] of 2000, there were 43,221 people, 13,737 households, and 10,522 families residing in the town. The population density was 1,560.5 people per square mile (602.4/km²). There were 13,985 housing units at an average density of 504.9 per square mile (194.9/km²).

total apparatus (from departments websites):

10 Engines

2 Rescue Engines

4 Tower Ladders

1 Ladder

1 Rescue

2 Utilities

(not including SUVs)

I think those numbers are a little off. Mt. Pleasant has more apperatus then that. Also are you including the parts of Briarcliff,Chappaqua and Sleepy Hollow that are in the town of Mt. Pleasant?

When does the current list expire?

Not a rumor. Both districts, Hawthorne and Valhalla have receied subsidies (I wouldn't call them incentives) to respond to calls in their district on County property. Used to be, years ago, to the tune of 40 or 50K each.

I think you should re check your facts before you post. Hawthorne and Valhalla are NOT getting more money from the county since 87 was removed. Hawthorne and Valhalla do in fact get money from the county but that is mostly for providing FIRE protection to the reservation on weekends and after 1530hrs on weekdays. Valhalla and Hawthorne are also required to supply drivers for the county gators when requested as part of the contract.

I remember when I worked at 60 Control, 87-A-1 was used for just about anything. It responded on the Grasslands campus basically all day. It could and actually would be used for mutual aid in surrounding communities, even White Plains and New Rochelle.

The concept at the time was that an ambulance would be readily available for the Grasslands campus and WMC facilites, such as the Jail and related facilities, Ruth Taylor, the clinics, NY Medical College, the Juvenille Detention Center, the Fire Training Center, and the Police Academy. And, as part of mentioned above, it responded to incidents around the Grasslands area, often being the first on scene of major incidents.

Who pays for 87-A-1? And will this place a greater burden on Hawthorne VAC and Valhalla VAC? I know both have paid crews now, but when you take away those crews for Grasslands, who's going to be covering the residents of Hawthorne and Valhalla? Is the Fire Brigade still funded. Nothing against anyone, I understand their primary purpose nowadays is to interface with FD's since they know the infastructure well, but the number of EMS calls on campus blows away the number of fire brigade calls.

It will absolutely be a bigger burden on both Valhalla and Hawthorne EMS, more so for Valhalla because they cover a much bigger portion of the reservation. Hawthorne only covers 20 Hospital Rd (psych ER) and 110 Woods Rd (Taylor Care Center) with Valhalla covering the rest of the campus. I’m not sure what Valhalla VAC’s coverage is in terms of staffing but Hawthorne has 1 EMT on duty 24/7 with a 2nd EMT added Monday thru Friday from 0600-1800hrs. Even with this type of staffing after 1800hrs we can barely get a driver to come down forget about staffing a second bus for an additional call. I don’t know how many runs 87A1 does a year but I am sure it will have an effect on both agencies.

This will also affect the ALS response to the Mt. Pleasant area. When 37M1 is out on a job 87A1 is the towns 2nd due medic. With the removal of this unit where is the 2nd medic going to come from GPD? So that will in turn take a toll on GPD as well leaving them down a medic.

As firefighter59 mentioned, I've learned HFD has been assigning a FF to ride on FFD L1 for the past 2 months or so. L1 has been covering HFD's structual runs since they took L46 out of service sometime earlier in the year.

This may be a stupid question but does the HFD member respond on Fairview calls as well with L1? or just Hartsdale calls?

The training that you speak of down in Highbridge is a on going class held for the FDNY. The Fire Training Center in Valhalla on occasion sponsors a Train Class, titled Passenger Train Course,or get in contact with the MTA Fire Brigade Chief to set up a Department class.

Would you happen to have any of that contact info? I can't seem to find anything online.