50-65

-flashlight of some sort

-Gerber knife

-first aid kit

-get home/ go bag stored in car

-Wherever legal: Springfield XD-S .45ACP (5 & 7 round mags are still legal in NY this week)

45ACP, because shooting twice is just silly.

Although the article is short on specifics (as usual "reporting" these days), what exactly is the purpose of using firefighters in a law enforcement mission?

Other than traffic control, I can't, off hand, think of a legitimate reason for FD to be involved in a purely LE mission. And even at that, I don't think FD should be involved.

http://hudsonvalley.ynn.com/content/all_news/691672/increase-in-dwi-checkpoints-across-ulster-county/

Maybe some of you from up that way could enlighten us.

When I took the "I" class at Dutchess about 4 years ago, it was the first class they had given in about 10 years. I don't believe they have had it since, although MLSS had held a couple. But, before the new state curriculum, it was about 180 hrs of class room and almost that much in clinicals.

The clinical hours were ER time for pt assessment/observation, Same Day Surgery for IV skills, and ambulance ride alongs for everything. We missed out on OR time for intubations because of a large medic class and they got priority. Plus we had to do papers on case studies for some of our patients.

Like Opie said, learning and knowledge is never a waste. I took the class because I was laid off, had the time, and belonged to an ALS agency so the state reimbursed them for it and it didn't cost me anything.

So someone want to give us some background on Newburgh EMS? Are they having issues, is this just a normal fundraising event?

Like most VAC's (and a lot of us ), they have issues. However, I believe that this is just a normal fundraising event.

The Town of Newburgh Volunteer Ambulance Corp d/b/a Town of Newburgh EMS, runs (has) 3 ambulances. They have contracted paid staff (2 EMT's) that work 6a-6p, 7 days/week. They also bill for service.

The town is approximately 47 sq miles with a small area in the north also covered by Plattekill Fire Dept which runs a BLS ambulance.

http://www.tonvac.org/ although it appears the website hasn't been updated for several years.

In my old department there were actually more classes of non-firefighting membership than there were of firefighting membership, each with slightly different rights. I tried to combine them once when I was on the By-Laws committee and you should have seen the hornets come out of the nest.

That's ok. Our by-laws still list essentials as the base class. And you don't need to make single call to be a member. As long as you make the required number of drills, company meetings, and fund raisers, you are a member (firefighter) in good standing. And guess which one of those three is the least required?

I guess when the by-laws were written 40+ years ago, it was just assumed that you would be comming to fire calls.

Welcome home, Bill.

Winona Lake, Town of Newburgh, will be holding it's annual poker run on Sunday, August 18th. Start at firehouse and end at Gail's Place, Rt 17K.

As in the past, this year's poker run will benefit the NYS Fireman's Home.

http://www.winonalakefd.org/pdf/WLEC%20Poker%20Run.pdf

Kahr is planning to move to Pike Co.,Pa from Pearl River. According to the article, they do 75 - 100 MILLION $$ annually. They cite the gun unfriendly culture in NY as a reason for leaving NY.

http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130623/BIZ/306230321&cid=mostclicked

http://www.kahr.com/

We have a "volunteer" agency in a nearby town that I belonged to for a short time. They have 24hr paid paramedic staffing and daytime paid EMT/EMT-I. The volunteer crews are required to be in station, in uniform when on duty. If you are not on the duty roster, you are not to be at the station after 11pm (I think it's 11. It's been a while). This agency has an average time from dispatch to on scene of 6 minutes or less depending on where their call is. I believe that most of the time, they are on scene in 4 minutes or less.

It is not unusual for them to staff an ambulance for 2nd and 3rd calls, even in the daytime.

Unfortunately, I think they are an exception rather than the rule.

On the other side of the coin, is the ems in my town that is paid 6a-6p x 7 days. The chances of a second rig getting out during the day is all but 0. From 6p to about midnight you have a fair chance of an ambulance showing up. Midnight - 6a you're waiting for the commercial service to get to you.

However you feel it's called "Discrimination" and it's illegal.

So it's illegal to "discriminate" against someone who is "challenged"? We should allow them to be firefighters?

Then who is at fault when this person gets injured, or worse, because they don't have the mental faculties to prevent them from doing stupid things?

Who is to blame when someone else gets injured, or worse, because this person could not perform a simple task they were assigned?

Which firefighter do you take out of service when you are already short-handed to babysit the one you can't discriminate against?

A lot of this could very well be applied to the volunteer fire service as well.

what is the deal with even letting someone with obvious and well known developmental disabilities which would most likely preclude them from ever serving as a firefighter apply. Volunteer companies need to realize once and for all that they are not social service agencies that exist to make people feel good about themselves. The job of the officers is to recruit firefighters, not to let someone hang out and be a danger to themselves or others.

Indeed. really wish I could openly debate this here.

http://www.hvremsco.org/

http://wremsco.org/

Follow their links to training

We used to carry 1000' on our engines: until the day we had a fire 1200' from the hydrant. Now we carry 1400'.

DA refusing to prosecute recent SAFE Act arrest.

http://www.midhudsonnews.com/News/2013/May/25/SAFE_nopros_Czajka-25May13.html

If anyone ever gets the chance to visit military cemetary they should. Just to walk among the hundreds upon hundreds of crosses..... I went to the American cemetary in Luxemberg once. Just think that each one of those markers was somebody's father/husband/brother that didn't come home.

During all the celebrations and parades this weekend, take time to remember and give thanks.

Thank you FFPCogs.

Thanks dad. RIP

Word I got today is that Bill is opening his eyes and is responsive.

Besides killing you slowly by exposure to the chemical itself, one of the main reasons they don't use it in fire extinguishers anymore is that it produces phosgene gas when heated. You would put out the fire and then suffocate on the gas produced.

It is carbon tet. Found that it is a steel body with brass ends. Unfortunately, the label is too far gone to save. I'll probably strip it, repaint the body and polish the brass ends. I have enough of the original wood handle that it can be duplicated.

What would be the safest way to dispose of the contents?

Since names, etc have been made public, I'll post this.

Bill is out of surgery and in ICU. Gigi was treated at Kingston Hospital and transferred to Albany Med but has since been released.

One MOS flown to Albany

I was wondering if anyone on here knows anything or anyone who can give me info on a fire extinguisher I recently acquired. I've done some google searches without a lot of luck.

This is what I do know. It is a Pyrene. I believe it to be a 1 gallon, hand pump, pressurized type. I'm not sure if it is steel or brass as it is painted olive drab green. It has a paper label (very bad condition) instead of their more common embossed metal label. It seems to indicate that it is a military or war time emergency extinguisher.

I'm suspecting that like other Pyrene extingishers, it is CTC (carbontetrachloride).

I'll try to post some pics but if anyone could point me in a direction I'd appreciate it.

I recently heard an ENCON officer say that they would not enforce it as it is unconstitutional.

What would Islam do if it were an American who committed a terrorist act in a Muslim Country? I think it would look something like: Hang him by his feet from a crane in a public place, light him on fire and mail the video to Al-Jazeera.

Never Forget

Unfortunatly, Hussein Obama would never allow that so as not to offend his friends and colleagues.

I will correct myself. I don't really mean Troopers as a whole group. (as far as whose side they're on). Each individual trooper can decide which laws to enforce.

It has been nearly a month since "assault" weapons were supposed to begin to be registered. Out of the estimated 1,000,000 believed to be in this state, how many have registered yet?