PFDRes47cue

Nice shots. Thanks for posting.

Finally got around in getting a good shot of them coming back from the intrepid.

Hi guys,
I've had a rough couple of months.
I became critically ill in June while on a trip to Chicago, and was hospitalized in ICU intubated for several days.
A few days after I got home to Texas, same thing happened, I had a procedure to corrrect the problem, but while I was intubated I aspirated vomit somehome and came up with severe double pneumonia. Physically, I can only use the computer for a limited amount of time right now, and am still extremly weak but am getting better by the day.
While I was in the hospital, I had no access to my phone or computer. I lost my job because I wasn't elegible for FMLA yet and I ran out of time that I could use, so I'm on a very tight budget. I can reapply for my job, but read on to find out why I won't.
My PayPal account that I use to pay for this site was hacked, and I was cleaned out of all the funds for this site. Although PayPal will be reimbursing me, it will be several weeks. I'm on a limited budget right now, and bills for the website are due soon and I can't bill, sell, or design any ads right now to raise money, nor will I be soliciting donations.
Earlier this week, my luck started to turn around the best it can at this point. A very awesome longtime friend and great person helped me out, big time. I am thankful for him and his bosses because his actions and concern gave me great motivation to keep going and renewed my passion. For right now, all I'm going to be saying is that I'm moving back to NY in the next week.............................I think I'll be much happier back there, especially because I miss all my friends from NY and working there. I LOVE Austin and Texas and will miss it (I've lived here for 4+ years already), and have been succesful and had awesome experience with the agencies I worked for , but at this point I need to start taking care of myself. After I was no longer healthy enough to be a career firefighter anymore, my heart was broken and I really wasn't the same-it destroyed me, but I've finally had closure on that and want to have the old pre-2007 Seth back.
There is MUCH more to this story, but please don't speculate.
I also apologize for not getting back to all those who hae been calling and emailing, it just gets a little overwhelming right now as I recover.
I have over 1,500 emails personally from friends, collegues, and EMTBravo members and related to me since May 26th, and eventually I will get to them all.
I traded in my car and sold off a lot of my things and bought a small 2005 Ford F-350 Super Duty/Winnebago Aspect 23' RV with only 7,000 miles on it. It's got all the comforts of home, and is cheaper and easier for me to live, especially since I will still have the home in Texas.
Does anyone know of RV Parks in the NY/CT area that are affordable and have electric and water hookups?
I was hoping I could park it at an FD or EMS, and in exchange join that agency and they would technically have a driver in house. I am stilll a certified Firefighter and Paramedic, and am capable of driving, operating, and maintaining any type of emergency vehicle. I can drive ambulances, midmount and rearmount aerials and tower ladders, engines (I am certified in pumping and water supply), rescue trucks, tankers, brush trucks, etc. If someone knows of an agency that could work something out with me, I would greatly appreaciate it. Email me at seth@emtbravo.com if you know of anything, even if short term.
I hopefully will have a job lined up, but I am looking for a second job, if anyone knows anything that's open and pays decent. It doesn't have to be emergency services. Email me at seth@emtbravo.com .
I wish I never gave up some of my Westchester jobs I had, I always thought the grass was greener and kept moving up jobs, but I look back now and had it great right where I started.
Thanks guys for your concern, and whatever help you can offer me. I hope that some of you guys can come up and hang out with me when I get back.
There is more to what I am going through, but please don't speculate or comment on that.

NYS statutes do not obligate an individual citizen, regardless of training, to respond to a situation or provide care unless there is a formal duty by job description or role expectation. Such a duty to act arises from participation with an agency having jurisdiction.
That says it all right there. Not an EMS response agency, no EMS responsibility in your job description, and no EMS expectation from you role equals you are a firefighter and not an EMT.

Thats really spectacular. God Bless.
Thanks for sharing this Kyle.

Thats really spectacular. God Bless.
Thanks for sharing this Kyle.

I think if you looked at FDNY houses this is the rule rather than the exception. Many time you will hear them referred to as "their buff" in reality this is usually a physically or mentally handicapped individual who is a fire house fixture. Every house I've been assigned to has one or more. Some are more famous than others e.g. Engine 64. I learned not to feel sorry for them and see they could have an enjoyable life in spite of what life dealt them. It shows why this is the best job in the world--the people you work with.

Great job Lansing!! Its good to see something nice written about the emergency services once in a while.
The guy at Engine 64, if its the one I am thinking of, I met during a ride along in the early Nineties. He was incredible in his own way

An EMT would not have a duty to act if they are operating as a firefighter in a non ems agency. The duty to act applies when you are with an agency with the authority to respond. His FD has no authority to respond to medical emergencies.

Nassau County boat sitting on the wreck this afternoon in Hunnington harbor. Photo taken from my boat

So about $3.25 a square foot. I thought I read this house was about 7660 square feet (round up to say 7700x $3.25= $25,025. With a 30 year mortgage that turns out to just $69.51 before interest. Figure about $75 to 80 dollars a month to provide sprinklers in the house. Maybe they should have put them inside instead of watering the grass

If you are on scene with the FD you act as a firefighter. Your agency is not an EMS agency and puts themselves at risk if they put you to work as an EMT. In NYC all firefighters whether they are EMTs or Medics on the outside operate as CFRs on an assignment. You should address this with your dept to establish a definitive policy. The district has a lawyer, put him to work.
I don't know of caveat superior. I know caveat emptor, Let the buyer beware.
The California case is from 2008 and was specific to California because the decision spoke directly to the language of the law. That being said, a similar decision could conceivably come down in NY or they could find their own reason to hang you out to dry.

Just trying to get some background information on an area that is a little grey to me. I will use myself for the following example but my comments do not reflect my department, they are solely my own thoughts.
If I am an NYS certified EMT-B and I ride with a NYS Fire Department that does not run EMS am I at all liable on scene. If I am at a car accident with the FD and no EMS is on scene am I obligated to act? I am in uniform but not an EMS uniform. Are FD's held liable if they have non EMS trained people hold c-spine until EMS arrives? What about if this non EMS Fire Department has an EMT or Paramedic hold c-spine? Is the FD liable? Is it best to just not have anyone assess the patient and to just wait until EMS arrives? If an FD that does not do EMS has certified EMS personnel should this be made known on scenes if EMS if not present yet? Or should it be hidden?
Personally I feel obligated to provide patient care rather than stand around waiting for EMS or a tow....
Again, the above may be stupid questions... if so my apologies. Just looking for some clarification.
Thanks in advance for any insight,
Madison

The term "Re-Kindle" should never be used.
How can a fire that is extingushed, "Re-Kindle"? It can not.
When a fire occurs in the same structure hours (or days) later, one of three things has occured:
1) The arrsonest returned to complete the job
2) The fire dept. did a poor job of overhaul and missed something (most common with a smells & bells or a small "room & content" incident)
3) The fire dept. made a determination that after a major fire (often with collapse) that there were no exposure issues and no way to do overhaul (without heavy equipment) and often it was in the best interest of the safety of the members to regroup and wait.
Based on the size of this fire...sounds like #3. so it was not a "Re-Kindle".

How many home owners realize that they're in a non-hydrant area? Of those that do, how many know what exactly that means for their fire protection? My father is an educated man rarely completely ignorant of a subject. He long ago realized that in the event of a fire if it goes beyond that first room he prefered it burn to the ground to save him on demolition and waste hauling costs. He was also well aware of the pitfalls of volunteer fire protection and had his home well insured. This was all many years before I became a volley. The one consolation he took was there is a hydrant 50' from our propety. Only after I joined the local FD did we find out how useless that hydrant was.
The point to this ramble is the average home owner has no idea. They see an FD full of trucks a few blocks away and assume they're protected. Since FDs are the last to advertise their ineptitude who is going to tell the homeowners they're on their own?

Date: 7/1/2012
Time: 00:33
Location: 15 Sisson Road
Frequency: St. Lawrence County Dispatch
Units Operating: [Potsdam FD: Engine 80, Engine 49,Tanker 100, Rescue 30, Rescue 14, Tower 5, 36-2]; [West Potsdam FD]; [Norwood FD]; [West Stockholm FD]; [Potsdam Rescue Squad]; [sLC: Car 1, Car 7, Fire Investigation Team]; [Potsdam PD]; [sLC Sheriff]; [National Grid];
Weather Conditions: Warm, dry
Description Of Incident: At 00:33 Potsdam Fire, Potsdam Rescue and St. Lawrence County Car 7 were activated for a structure fire at the above address. Two members were in house at the time and responded Engine 80 immediately. A few moments after, an on duty Potsdam Police Officer and also PFD Firefighter arrived on scene gave a size-up and reported heavy smoke pushing from the house. Engine 80 called on scene and requested mutual aid for Tankers and Manpower from Norwood FD and West Potsdam FD and manpower from West Stockholm FD. A line was stretched into the structure and an aggressive interior attack was initiated once the fire was located in the roof and back wall. Engine 80 requested that the on duty Potsdam Fire Paid Driver respond the village Engine 49 to set up relay operations for the tanker shuttle. Parishville Fire was requested to standby in Potsdam Station with an Engine, Tanker and Manpower. The homeowner was home and asleep at the time when the fire broke out. A functioning smoke detector in the house woke her up and alerted her of the fire. She escaped uninjured. St. Lawrence County Fire Investigators were called to the scene to investigate the cause of the blaze. All units were back in service at 04:32. No firefighter injuries were reported.

Date: 7/4/12
Time: 22:51
Location: 12 Hallock Place
Frequency: 46.26 dispatch, Fire 16, EMS 16, OPS 1
Units Operating: Armonk FD/EMS: 2021 (IC), 2022, 2023 (Water Supply), E286, E287, T9, 51B1, 51B3, U52, U82; Banksville FD: 2581, 2582, E157, T7; North White Plains FD: L47, 2321, 2325; Mt. Kisco FD: 2281, 2282, U13 (FAST) E106 (draft engine); Bedford Hills FD: 2033, E198, T5; Pound Ridge FD: 2401, T3, E112 (LDH Hose Ramp); Katonah FD: T6; Chappaqua FD: 2062, 2061, E146; Pleasantville FD: 2372, T57, E260; Valhalla FD: 2481, R9 (FAST); Round Hill FD: E2 (Standing by in Banksville FD HQ); Bedford FD: 52B1; Purchase FD: 2412, E240 (Standing by in Armonk FD HQ); Yorktown FD: 2532, E272 (Standing by in Bedford Hills FD HQ); Mt. Kisco VAC: 70B1 (Standing by in Armonk FD HQ); Pleasantville VAC: 76-06, 76-05, 76B2 (Rehab); Ossining FD: 2332, E97; Westchester DES: Bat 13, Cause and Origin Zone 5, County Car 24; North Castle PD; NYSP
Weather Conditions: Hot, Humid, Thunder Storms
Description Of Incident: Working fire. Original size up fire in the basement with heavy smoke.
Reporters: Sailr322, firedude
Contributors: PFDRes47cue
22:51 60 Control to Armonk to respond to 12 Hallock Place for a residential alarm
22:53 2021 responding
22:58 2021 on location, advising that there is a gate at the base of the driveway, can 60 call the homeowner back and have them open it
22:59 2021 advising that a neighbor is attempting to get them in, the homeowner does not appear to be home as this time
23:04 2021 advising 60 that a caretaker has come down and stated there is a fire in the basement, have gained access to the property by taking the gate with the apparatus
23:04 2021 advising of a heavy smoke condition, fire in the basement, requesting a 10-75 and to start with 3 tankers
23:05 2021 requesting T9 to come up to the scene in order to lay-in and then go back down the driveway to establish a shuttle
23:07 60 Control paging: Armonk on a 10-75, Banksville one tanker and one engine, Mt. Kisco FAST and one engine, North White Plains one ladder, Bedford Hills one tanker, Plesantville one tanker, Battalion 13; all units switch to Fire 16
23:07 2281 and 2282 responding
23:08 2581 responding
23:09 2021 on scene with a 125'x75' 3 story wood-frame structure with fire coming through the roof on the C/D corner
23:09 Chappaqua one engine relocate to Armonk FD HQ
23:10 2252 enroute to his firehouse
23:11 2031 responding
23:11 2061 responding
23:11 2021 requesting two additional tankers to the scene, dry hydrant
23:12 Units enroute to the scene per 2021 do not block driveway, leave it open for the truck
23:12 T5 responding
23:12 E157 responding
23:14 55B1 responding
23:13 Katonah Tanker requested to the scene
23:14 E157 requested to the hydrant per 2021
23:15 2021 requesting additional two engines to the scene
23:15 60 Control to 2031 can you have an engine respond, 2031 advises his engine is now en route to the scene
23:16 Chappaqua and Bedford Hills one engine to the scene
23:18 Tanker 6 enroute to the scene
23:19 E198 enroute to the scene
23:19 2021 advising a tanker shuttle will be needed to be established
23:19 Tanker 7 responding
23:19 Purchase one engine relocate to Armonk FD, remain on Fire 19
23:20 2033 on location
23:20 55B1 on location
23: 20 E157 to lay in from a dry hydrant
23:21 E146, 2061, and 2062 responding
23:21 U13 on location
23:22 Pound Ridge on a re-tone to respond to Armonk
23:22 E157 on location at the dry hydrant
23:23 Tanker 3 responding
23:24 Tanker 5 on location
23:25 Tanker 7 on location
23:25 2581 requesting 1 MA engine to backfill Banksville Fire HQ
23:26 2321 on location
23:27 Additional incoming tankers standby at the intersection due to a bottleneck as per 2581
23:29 Round Hill FD dispatched to relocate one engine to Banksville, dispatched by Greenwich
23:29 L47 on scene
23:30 All tankers switch to OPS 1
23:30 Going to exterior, master stream ops as soon as ladder is in place, heavy fire throughout 2021
23:31 2021 negative on evacuation tones all personnel are out
23:33 E240 out at Armonk HQ
23:34 State Police requested to the scene
23:36 E146 to complete layin from E157 per 2581
23:36 T6 on location
23:38 Second FAST and C&O per 2021
23:39 Valhalla FAST requested to the scene C&O landline 60 Control
23:40 Battalion 13 on location
23:44 Second ambulance requested to the scene per 2021
23:45 Bedford EMS requested to respond to the scene
23:50 52B1 responding
23:52 E146 still stretching, E198 standing by to make sure E146 completes lay to T9 per 2581
23:52 52B1 to respond to the staging area halfway up the driveway
23:52 Battalion 13 advising that IC is requesting the closest rehab unit
23:55 Bat 13 requesting Bedford FD to standby for Bedford Hills FD, CAD shows 1 Bedford engine OOS, Bedford unable to fill request. Bat. 13 requesting any engine to relocate to Bedford Hills
23:56 T3 on location
23:57 52B1 to stage on street and bring rehab up driveway per 2021
23:58 2581 telling E157 to charge the 5in line
23:59 R9 (Valhalla FAST) on location
00:01 E273 (Yorktown) assembling to relocate to Bedford Hills
00:02 Progress report from 2021, Signifact fire from 3rd floor throguh roof, master stream set up, waiting for water
00:04 Duration of the incident is 1 hour at this time
00:04 Mt. Kisco EMS dispatched to relocate to Armonk FD HQ per Bat. 13
00:06 Pleasentville VAC Rehab unit dispatched to scene
00:07 7605, 7606, 76B2 will be responding along with P'Ville Rehab, still assembling
00:09 76B2 responding
00:11 2021 requesting rehab units on Fire 16, not EMS
00:11 7606, 7605 responding
00:13 70B1 is relocating to Armonk HQ
00:17 IC requesting a status on the supply line, 2023 advising 5in needs to be shut off will advise when it is back on
00:20 E146 requested to reduce their pressure
00:22 Duration of the incident is now 1 hour 30 minutes
00:26 2021 Roof collapse, to C and D sides, all hands still operating, exterior operations
00:26 E146 requested to raise their pressure again and re-charge the line
00:31 2023 requesting a portable pump from E157
00:35 1405 (C&O) on scene
00:38 Bat 13 trying to boost pressure, will use portable pump from E157
00:47 Plesantville Rehab on scene
00:48 2021 reports more fire in rear of building, no pressure
00:53 2581 reports 5in will have to be shut down for 5 minutes to allow T7 in
00:56 E146 shutting down the 5in
00:57 E146 reporting the 5in has been shutdown
00:59 Hose ramps from Pound Ridge on location on the way to the staging area per 2581
01:04 E146 re-charging the 5in line
01:04 Duration of the incident is now 2 hours per 60 Control
01:08 100psi output per E146
01:09 2023 requesting an additional tanker, will most likely come from Round Hill
01:10 2023 two fill sites, one on 128 and one on School Street
01:22 As per 2021 no additional mutual aide expected, road can be shut at this time
01:34 Duration of the incident is now 2 hours 30 minutes per 60 Control
01:49 2021 advising 60 Control that fire is darkening down, sending crews to check for hot spots
01:52 E198 requested to drop their pressure a little bit as per 2021
01:53 60 Control requesting 2321 to landline 60
01:54 2321 advising 60 Control that is not possible at this time
01:54 60 Control to 2321 asking to landline when possible than
01:56 2023 to 2581 requesting to cut the pump pressure by about half
01:57 2581 cutting pump pressure by half
02:04 60 Control advising that the duration of this incident is 3 hours at this time
02:12 T5 advising IC of a crew change due to a personnel emergency
02:34 Plesantville and Purchase to the scene for relief and hot spots
02:36 2581 advising an engine is not needed up the driveway, just the manpower, have them come up in any chiefs car
02:37 Ossining toned out for one engine to standby in Armonk HQ
02:38 2332 advising 60 Control and 2021 that E97 is assembling in quarters to respond to Armonk FD
02:39 2021 requesting 60 Control to tone out for Armonk's Gator (U52) and U82 to respond to the scene
02:41 60 Control toning out manpower for U52 and U82
02:42 Ossining additional personnel still needed to fill E97
02:44 2581 to 2421 advising when E240 is on location to position north of the intersection as far right as possible, have crew ready to go to work and shuttle them up in the chief's car since the engine will not be able to make it
02:46 52B1 is available to transport personnel up to the scene
02:47 52B1 making their way down to bring personnel up to the scene
02:49 2581 inquiring if a fuel truck is needed will it fit
02:49 2322 and E97 on the road to Armonk FD
02:51 2581 requesting only personnel to the up to the scene, no engine
02:51 2581 requesting a fuel truck to the scene
02:53 2021 requesting an update on the manpower at quarters for utilities, 60 Control advising nothing at this time
02:54 Bat. 13 requested to landline 60 Control
02:54 E260 on location, per 60 Control contact 2581, have personnel with packs and gear, shuttle to the scene in a chiefs car or apparatus on location
02:55 60 Control tone out for additional personnel still needed for U52 and U82
03:02 2581 asking if Plesantville has portable lighting to bring it up with their crew
03:04 60 Control advising the duration of the incident is now at 4 hours
03:08 Bat. 13 to 2581 requesting the fuel status on all the tankers and the relay, advising of one issue on the scene already
03:13 70B1 requesting additional tones for manpower
03:14 60 Control tone for EMT and driver
03:16 70B1 advising 60 full crew is now assembled
03:17 All tankers are at approximately 1/2 a tank of fuel, 2581 working on fuel truck
03:18 2062 to E146 relief to one FF on the way, he can make his way to the intersection
03:19 2581 if Plesantville wishes to bring lighting in they can, Plesantville advising they don't have enough manpower at this time
03:21 2581 advising fuel truck is on location, beginning the process of refueling
03:27 2581 to E146 can shut down at this time, do not break down at this time, wants to make sure tanker operations are still ok
03:28 2581 to E146 and E157 can start breaking their lines down
03:29 2581 have the fuel truck come up to the scene for E286
03:31 2021 to 60 Control on a progress update, main body of the fire k/d in overhaul stages
03:32 60 Control advising the duration of the incident is now at 4 hours and 30 minutes
03:38 U82 responding
03:41 2581 running two hand lines at this time
03:43 2581 advising water and fuel levels are ok at this time, should be able to handle
03:53 2021 requesting U52 up to scene
04:02 60 Control advising the duration of this incident is now 5 hours
04:07 2581 advising that in approximately 10 minutes all hand lines will be pulled out and going to master stream operations
04:18 2021 advising 60 Control Valhalla FAST in clearing, will advise when they are clear of the scene
04:20 2481 and Valhalla FAST clear of the scene, switching back to Fire 11
04:29 60 Control to Bat. 13 progress report per 2021: pulling hand lines and going to ladder operations, all hands still working, duration of this incident now at 5 hours 30 minutes
04:31 2581 advising going to ladder operations now
04:32 2023 asking if manpower is available to come down to pack hose
04:33 2581 advising Bat. 13 they are keeping master stream ops in place for the next 20 minutes then beginning the process of clearing
04:40 T6 filling
04:43 Bat. 13 advising 60 Control that 52B1 has been released and placed back in service per 2021
04:50 2581 per 2021 to 2023 and tankers shut it down
04:50 E198 shutting down, E106 shutting down
05:02 Bat. 13 all units in the process of shutting down
05:03 2581 to Bat. 13 IC is releasing all tankers with the exception of one Armonk and One Banksville
05:04 Tankers in the process of picking up, one Armonk and one Banksville remaining on scene as per 60 Control
05:05 60 Control advising the duration of the incident is now 6 hours
05:08 T3 returning to quarters
05:09 52B2 back in service, returning to quarters
05:16 2372, T57, E260 released
05:19 T6 back in service, returning to quarters
05:19 All Plesantville units returning to quarters
05:22 2325 advising all North White Plains units are back in, returning to quarters
05:23 All Katonah back in service, returning to quarters
05:24 Mt. Kisco FAST picked up and back in service
05:32 E106 back in service
05:48 T7 returning to quarters
05:49 2372 advising 60 all Plesantville units back in service back in district
05:50 2412 advising 60 all Purchase units back in service from Armonk
05:54 2031 advising all Bedford Hills units in service from Armonk
05:55 2532 and E272 returning to quarters
06:04 60 Control advising units have now been operating at this incident for 6 hours
06:15 2581 all Banksville units clear and in service from Armonk
06:17 2021 to 60 Control heading back to HQ to pickup hose line, E286 and Chappaqua remaining on scene
06:21 70B1 released from Armonk FD HQ, back in service
06:22 Ossining units released back in service
06:22 2021 request tones for manpower to report to HQ for cleanup
06:23 Armonk toned out for manpower to HQ for cleanup
06:38 All Ossining units back in district, back in service
06:42 E146 and 2062 clear of Armonk, E146 out of service at this time per 2062 will advise when it is back in
10:00 2021, C&O on scene with hot spots, requesting Armonk and Banksville to respond back out
10:02 2021 requesting BHFD TL57 to scene
10:09 Armonk and Bedford Hills Re-toned
10:13 E286 OOS until further notice per 2021
10:13 Bat 13 responding to Armonk
10:17 E288, TL57 responding
10:23 2021 requesting TL57 to back up driveway
10:24 Armonk Tanker retoned
10:25 E288 on scene
10:29 T9 responding
10:31 TL57 on scene
10:40 U82 responding
10:41 Bat. 13 on scene
11:44 Bat. 13 back in service
11:45 T9 clear of the scene, going to re-fill
11:45 Bedford Hills & E288 clear of scene, back in service
11:58 County Car 24 back in service from Armonk
11:58 All FD units clear, turned over to homeowner per 2021
17:54 All members to report to HQ for special cleanup
20:07 Armonk units toned back for hot spots
LoHud article: http://www.lohud.com...|text|Frontpage
WABC 7 article: http://abclocal.go.c...urbs&id=8725418
News 12 article: http://www.news12.co...&news_type=news
Newsday article: http://newyork.newsd...-hurt-1.3822029
LoHud photos from the fire: http://www.lohud.com...&nclick_check=1 (these photos are not mine, they are taken by Frank Becerra Jr.)
Armonk FD article with photos: http://www.armonkfd.com/2012/07/july-4th-structure-fire/

Very nice work Officer. Thoughts and prayers for a speedy recovery.

From friend in Afghan:
~shooting fireworks and having cookouts with our family is nice..but let's not forget the sacrifices that made & continues to make this holiday possible!

Date: 7/4/2012
Time: 0619hrs
Location: I-95 SB (between exits 15 & 16 @ mm 4.8)
Frequency: 33.96 (Dispatch), EMS 18, NRFD, NYSP, FDNY, 155.130 (NRPD)
Units Operating: [New Rochelle FD/EMS: 2302 (IC), E21, E24, L12, R4, 30A1 (EMS Command), 30A2, 30U1 (MCI Unit)], [Transcare EMS: 921 (Transport Unit), 807 (Supervisor)], [Eastchester VAC: 57B3, 57M1], [Larchmont VAC: 66A1], [Mamaroneck EMS: 68A1], [FDNY*EMS: 1 ALS Unit, 1 BLS Unit, MERV 2], [WCDES: EMS 10], NYSP (Thruway Units), NYSTA, Vincent's Towing
Weather Conditions: Light Rain, Some Fog, 70 Degrees
Description Of Incident: Tour Bus into the guardrail, extrication required. Driver possibly ejected from vehicle. 24 total patients, all were transported. Bus was coming from Foxwoods Casino in Connecticut. NRFD units handled other calls in New Rochelle.
Reporters: firedude
0619hrs: 60 Control dispatched E21, E24, L12, R4, 30A1, 2302 to I-95 SB North of Exit 15 to a MVA involving a Tour Bus
Transports:
30A2 - ALS with 2 to Jacobi
68A1 - ALS with 2 to SSMC
57B3 - ALS with 2 to Mt. Vernon
66A1 - ALS with 2 to SSMC
Transcare 921 - ALS with 2 to SSMC
FDNY*EMS- ALS with 2 to Jacobi
FDNY*EMS MERV - 12 'Green Tags' to Jacobi
ABC 7 News Article:http://abclocal.go.c...urbs&id=8724260
CBS 2 News Article:http://newyork.cbslo...n-new-rochelle/
NBC 4 News Article: http://www.nbcnewyor...-161332915.html
Fox 5 News Article: http://www.myfoxny.c...ccident-on-i-95
The NY Post Article: http://www.nypost.co...F0cak7rUlFU5A0L
News 12 Article: http://www.news12.co...&region_name=WC
Lohud article: http://www.lohud.com...|text|Frontpage
New Rochelle Daily Voice Article: http://newrochelle.dailyvoice.com/news/i-95-reopens-after-bus-accident-new-rochelle
**Anyone with info can PM me!**
Sorry about the duplicate posts!

I am not positive, but feel safe to assume that every EMS agency has triage equipment (i.e.: tags, tarps, etc). This might be a requirement but don't quote me.

Date: 07/03/12Time: 0930-1000 Hours
Location: Orange County, Rockland County, Westchester County
Frequency: Multiple
Units Operating: City of Newburgh PD, New York State Police, Multiple Other PD's
Weather Conditions: Clear/Nice
Description Of Incident: Pursuit of an armed (firearm) rape suspect. Initiated in Newburgh and traveled via multiple highways/back roads, and finally terminated on the Tappan Zee Bridge where the suspect was taken into custody.
Reporters: INIT915

Date: 7/2/2012
Time: 18:35
Location: I684 NB @ M.M. 5.9
Frequency: 46.26
Units Operating: [Armonk FD/EMS: 2021, 51B1, 51B3, E286, E288]; [Westchester EMS: 4514, 45M1, 45M2]; [NYSP];
Weather Conditions: Warm, dry, sunny
Description Of Incident: Rollover with extrication. Car into the median. Second ambulance and medic requested. Three patients extricated and transported to Westchester Medical Center ER. Two Level 1 traumas and One Level 2 trauma

grumpy, we've been getting that too. Just calls coming in with nothing but a location and a PD 10-Code. I will give one that I had to laugh about. Because, to PD, EVERYTHING is a haz mat job. Comes over as a haz mat incident. Strong smell coming from a dumpster. It's 85 degrees at 1030 in the morning with 53% humidity. HOT GARBAGE!!!! One I didn't laugh about, and actually made the papers. Water condition, basement apartment. Truck company comes in, "Get us an Engine and EMS, her water broke, she's having a baby."

My boy, TL-2 summed it up quite nicely. You called 911 and got a civilian employee of the PD. To echo what was said here, if you had said 79th Street Boat Basin, you probably would not have had as big of a problem. In all fairness, most of these calltakers are overworked, underpaid, and aren't given the slightest bit of encouragement to learn outside of what they are taught. Not to mention, they do work in a pretty hostile work environment, where every minor screw up is given either a write up, or results in a loss of vacation time or pay. One other thing, depending on the name of the landmark, they can't put it in their system. Remember the shooting at City Hall a number of years back?? They couldn't put CITY HALL into their CAD. They can't put the bridges in for the most part. They need cross streets. If you had said, Hudson River and 79th Street that would have also helped.
They weren't trained properly in taking fire calls, and still screw stuff up on a pretty consistent basis. When you call 911 in NYC, you get the PD Calltaker who enters the information, sends it to the FDNY CAD/EMS CAD through a link, then conference calls you in to either us, or EMS. We take the info, basically to make sure PD didn't screw it up, and update the incident.
Now, here is the difference between us and them. They have folks who are nothing but professional call takers, who have it beaten into their heads to take calls at face value. They are not allowed to use common sense, and any inkling of common sense is quickly discouraged. Prior to UCT, you have no idea how many calls we disregarded, or told the caller the FDNY was not responding because it wasn't a fire department issue. Not so with UCT, they send us EVERYTHING!!!! I'm not going to give examples. One of the other disadvantages, is when you call 911 is that it isn't borough specific. They take calls for the whole city. I've worked most of my career between the Bronx and Manhattan, and I was born and kinda raised in Queens, and even I don't know all the streets. Although through out my experience, if I hear a street I am not familiar with, I can either ask my colleagues, or ask what borough it's in and have an idea of where it is. The way the building is set up, I spent sometime right in between EMS and PD, and overheard a lot of the operators. I remember one night recently, the calltaker kept repeating Bronx River Road and Nereid. I looked at her supervisor and said, Why don't you put in Webster Avenue and Nereid, or Webster and the City Line. I got ignored for a good two minutes.
We are not allowed to have professional call takers. We train our dispatchers to do everything. This takes up to 10 weeks of training. If one of my guys on a call doesn't know where something is, there is a strong possibility someone on my platform does.
If you need the FDNY or an Ambulance, the proper number to call in the boroughs are:
Manhattan 212-999-2222
Bronx 718-999-3333
Brooklyn 718-999-4444
Queens 718-999-5555
SI 718-999-6666
One of my dispatchers will answer the phone, and we will get you what you need.