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I found this paragraph in an article on LoHud/Journal News
 
 
 

Does anyone know if this new system will be digital or what it will include? Is Police, Fire, and EMS (Empress) going to the same system?

 
Article: http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2016/03/boston_fire_department_to_file_suit_against_maker_of_engine

Based on their proximity to the building they took some measures to reduce the side loading on the outriggers by keeping the ladder retracted.  Best option would have been backing in, this is probably the second best assuming they had good distance from the active fire. 

Since it is Kent33land Friday, just thank them for their service.  That set up is fine. Never a problem when HIHFTY. 

45 as I'm told will be done shortly I was not given a specific timeframe but she's coming don't worry.
before this starts up again it is not former FDNY 157 Truck it was FDNY 138 Truck I had The vin run several years ago  by 
John Calderone himself I even have the paperwork from him!.
some of us are big fans of that old girl and now there is a big sister in town to play with too.

Do these have dump bodies that go on for the rest of the year? (like the Thruway Authority does)

Two plow trucks from the Dana Road Yard. 

5/15/85 Mt Vernon Snorkel 1 at 4th Alarm on 4th Ave & 2nd St and Millwood Squrt in 1996 White Plains parade.

Cliffside Park NJ (Pierce  Dash ) & Edgewater (KME) both operate  Tele Squrits here in east bergen very good purchases by both depts quite handy  for norrow tight streets in both of theirs boros 

Port Jervis (Orange County) operates with a 1999 American lafrance tele-squirt. 

Fire companies in the Belmar St. Patricks Day Parade 
 
 

FL A4 a  2000 Freightliner Medic Master (unit now used as a spare)  This is one of the last 2 medc  masters remaining with Fort Lee Ambulance 

As far as I know the area VAC's welcome it  They use direct billing here Englewood hospital provides full time EMS to  Palisades Park Leonia & Englewood Cliffs We took over their areas when these squads disbanded  We cover City of Englwood VAC 6 am to 6 pm Monday to Friday We also back up squads needing extra BLS units @ scenes  All dispatching handled by MICOM Double Medics on both units working Our unit #. 's are ALS 211 & 213 Tour chief 's are 294 /298 BLS are # 231/236

We switched over from the Fly Car's so we can offer transport capability when towns are not able to get  rig out The fly cars (suburban's) are used by the tour commanders & can be used as ALS units during snowy weather

Here's unit 2010 running as ALS 211 unsure of year (2014) E 350  rechassided unit  outside of  ER these units can be used as BLS or ALS units

Tower Ladder 21 & Ambulance 58B1 Wetdown   Sunday, April 24th @ 2:00 PM to 4:00 PM Ceremony @ 3:00 PM   @ The Elmsford Fire Company
144 East Main St.   All are welcome to attend.        
  @ The Elmsford Fire Company
144 East Main St.
All are welcome to attend.
     

 
Neither Snorkel nor Tele-squrt....Just a bada$$ with a boom!  Hahaha

Cliffside Park NJ (Pierce  Dash ) & Edgewater (KME) both operate  Tele Squrits here in east bergen very good purchases by both depts quite handy  for norrow tight streets in both of theirs boros 

New Windsor Ambulance is selling two 2010 Ford type III E-350 super duty diesel ambulances.  They are both under 90K miles and come fully loaded.  Both ambulances are in excellent condition and will be sold with a stryker stretcher.  For more information please PM me or email me at lask.joshua@gmail.com.  Prices, pictures and info sheets are available.  Test drives or inspections are available by appointment only.  One of them will be available for immediate pickup, the other one will be able to be sold within 3 weeks. 

Another concern about driving on soil would be any underground "obstructions", i.e. Septic tanks, oil tanks (abandoned or in use), underground electrical vaults, etc. dropping an outrigger over one of these could result in a big OOPS. 

My Monday morning QB instinct says I'd do it but prefer the truck back in, in case it got stuck you could use the aerial without going over the cab. Pretty common to see pics from PG county with truck off the pavement, not seen any that had poor results? It's always tough to argue against a positive outcome, easier to cast stones when it's a negative.

The video and the still shots don't really give enough information regarding the placement of the truck in relation to the active fire.  Generally speaking I was taught never to take my apparatus off hard
pavement (specialized vehicles notwithstanding).  
 
Although they have their outriggers extended, they do not appear to be on anything other than the grass surface.  If they were extending the bucket any further than what appears in the still photo they
could be risking the stability of their working platform. Did they really need a bucket to effect these evacuations or could ground ladders not have accomplished the same in maybe shorter time.
 
As always, its a judgement call made in a matter of seconds.  Since rescues were accomplished and the apparatus was not damaged, its a win, this time.
 
I remember a grass fire I responded to.  Kept my CF Mack on the hard road. Our new mini-pumper came in, left the road to cross the field and promptly sank up to its axles.  You take your chances when you leave the road.
 
 

Back home we used to "beach" our quint ALL the time (1999 RD Murray pictured below).  I cannot speak for AerialScope, but if you need to place a ladder in a specific spot, go for it.  You can always call for a wrecker to pull the rig out of the mud (and our quint got stuck quite a few times).  From what I've witnessed, soft terrain was never an issue for stabilizing the truck.  The outriggers just compact the ground below with the use of 3X3' steel pads.
 
With that said let me explain why we always "beached" this truck.  The village has wide streets, and every house is 50' or more from the roadway centerline.  By "beaching" the quint we always guaranteed the ladder in the front (the quint was first due any way), and also got the turntable underneath or past the power lines above.  The village is well hydranted, so water supply was never an issue as the first due.  But the front yards of burning homes was the quint's spot.
 

I don't remember who took the photo.  And I apologize, I don't have any in-service shots.

I'm seeing this being picked apart on other sites. First, let me give you some context.
 
Check out the video:
http://www.fox5dc.com/news/102497228-story
 
Next, Kentland Fire, in something the "Salty" people seem to have dubbed "beaching" that they displayed on their Facebook page. Now, maybe some more experience Aerialscope operator can enlighten me.
First off, is taking your truck across, what I can only assume is soft soil, and then set it up very close to the building, safe?  I get they had to have been rescuing occupants from the apartment across the hall.
 
But my question to y'all......and I'm on the fence here.......can you maintain stability in the jacks and outriggers in this type of surface?
 
I mean, it looks OK, like they got the truck where it needed to be. I can't decide, do I say good job on this one? I want my fellow members to make up my mind please.
 
Photos from Kentland FD's Facebook Page

 
 
 

Turrent wagon I am pretty sure that's what it's called It can  reach deep into the large fires