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They didn't call the state in. The PESH report states that the inspection was a regularly scheduled one and not because of a complaint 

WHY would they not ?!?!
 
 

That's the pre 2013 alarm.  Back when each manufacturer had a proprietary alarms.  NFPA wanted the sound to be universal for universal recognition.

 
It seems with each new iteration of the PASS alarm receives a higher pitch.  The old school alarm is definitely at a much lower octave with more bass.
 
I was told that new alarm sounds are higher pitched due to a higher percentage of low frequency hearing loss among firefighters....Has anyone heard or know of any truth behind this?  Or is the higher pitch just easier to hear in a noisy environment?

 
That is the OLD old alarm.

The 95 db minimum was set because the sound is distorted by heat.  So a PASS that is easily recognizable in the firehouse can be distorted and muffled in a fire.

All PASS are minimum of 95 db.   Its the pattern that it emits that is deceptive and people process as louder / not as loud.  The NFPA 2013 has those spaces between cycles (spike) in sound.  Because of those gaps it deceives the ear because of the way we process sound.
 
The NFPA TIA sound does away with those long valleys between spikes.  Making it sound louder whether it is or is not.

 
Im sure HFD will either recoup the cost involved from YHFD or will absorb the costs as part of its budgeted mutual aid expenditures. 
 
My understanding is that the HFD has a proactive automatic/ mutual aid plan in place with several of its neighbor fire districts/ departments. Im sure it's fire protection was not reduced.
 
 
The HFD Capt /YHFD I.C. knew what resourses he needed to mitigate the situation and got them to the incident in a timely manner.
 
 Perhaps unusual but effective.
 
 
 
 
 

That's why the VA and IBM responded.

 
It seems with each new iteration of the PASS alarm receives a higher pitch.  The old school alarm is definitely at a much lower octave with more bass.
 
I was told that new alarm sounds are higher pitched due to a higher percentage of low frequency hearing loss among firefighters....Has anyone heard or know of any truth behind this?  Or is the higher pitch just easier to hear in a noisy environment?

I think the new one has a kind of high pitched almost tinny sound. The old one had more bass to it. 

We recently put into service new Scott Air Packs.  One of the most notable things about it is that the PASS alarm volumes are lower than our older units.
 
We put the packs in different locations in the training house and sent members in to locate them.  The volume of the older units would drown out the sound of the newer SCBAs.
 
To get more of a side by side comparison, we'd put the packs next to one another - both inside and outside the building - and noticed a marginal difference.
 
This is in no way a knock on the new units, and in no way is this a real "study," but this is definitely something we all should be weary of.

Your signature is so appropriate for this post...

KME was the lowest bidder, followed by Ferrara and then Seagrave. Bids were opened January 5th.
 

 
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcas/downloads/pdf/ocp/1600252.pdf

 
My guess is that the PA will transfer a couple of  rigs that are in good condition  to TEB once the new order arrives.

 
My guess is that the PA will transfer a couple of  rigs that are in good condition  to TEB once the new order arrives.

I am sure one or two will end up in teterboro airport  in nj

Just a friendly bump to remind people to "Like" posts. Why? Read the posts above.

Dammit, Seth, you made me hit the blue button again! hahaha
 

I gave you a like, Jim, because it's definitely something that's gone to the wayside. A lot of members won't reply to posts, and then they get to the point where they read and just move on. It's like looking at Facebook all day....eventually you just see a few posts and move on. But sometimes there's a great topic and some awesome information that comes across the threads, and no one acknowledges that they were there, that they read anything! I'm just as guilty of this, as sometimes I'm just catching up on things or just reading a few threads before I have to run out the door.
But, you're right. We should be acknowledging each other a little more with that tiny blue button in the lower left corner.

I saw this article a little while ago, and this reminded that I saw a bunch of the PAPD firefighters not so long ago (a bunch of them came to Westchester to tour the airport).  They're pretty excited about this purchase.  The Strikers they have now are definitely starting to show their age, as the PANYNJ received the first large batch of Strikers when the product unveiled (HPN's Airport 17, a 2003 4x4 was built in the midst of this order as well).

I saw this article a little while ago, and this reminded that I saw a bunch of the PAPD firefighters not so long ago (a bunch of them came to Westchester to tour the airport).  They're pretty excited about this purchase.  The Strikers they have now are definitely starting to show their age, as the PANYNJ received the first large batch of Strikers when the product unveiled (HPN's Airport 17, a 2003 4x4 was built in the midst of this order as well).

 
FULL ARTICLE: http://www.fireapparatusmagazine.com/articles/company-news/2017/01/oshkosh-panynj-striker-order.html

Vails Gate FD
Orange County, NY
 
Total runs: 595 (no EMS)
 
Gave mutual aid: 34 times 

Avg response time: 7:53

Overlapping incidents: 35

Avg turnout: 20

Busiest day: Sunday

Slowest day: Wednesday

Busiest time of day 1500-1600

Slowest time of day 0700-0800
 

It doesn't take long to have it look that nice.  When I was Captain in Millwood our beds looked like that and for all I know they still do.  The key is to leave about 2 feet open at the front of the hose bed as a coffin for the couplings to lay in.  Each time you come to a coupling while packing the hose, you pull it all the way forward to the coffin at the front.  This creates a twofold benefit.  The folds at the back of the hose bed are nice and neat (especially if you use a rubber mallet to set the fold each time, but who's doing that at 3am on the side of the road?) but also, the hose lays out better when you're in a hurry.  No couplings to grab each other on the hosebed.
 
I'm not saying my way is the right way, but it worked for us and kept things looking tidy.