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I like the disclaimer about having to decommission the emergency equipment.

It takes time to train on a new piece of equipment. Driver training is especially important. Those sutphens have a very wide swing in the rear when turning. No need to rush it into service if people can't drive/operate/position it correctly.

Thanks!

What does that stand for?

It takes time to train on a new piece of equipment. Driver training is especially important. Those sutphens have a very wide swing in the rear when turning. No need to rush it into service if people can't drive/operate/position it correctly.

Legal notice in today's paper for the Monroe Joint Fire District (Orange Co.) looking to purchase a new pumper-rescue vehicle.   Does not specify for which company.   

TBTA is the Triboro Bridge and Tunnel Authority. They are a part of the MTA that maintains several crossings including the RFK bridge, Brooklyn Battery Tunnel and Midtown Tunnel
 
there is a rumor that their law enforcement was to be absorbed into the NYSP but given the truck, they may try to split them off from MTA into their own agency, hence why no agency markings 

I agree with nfd2004.  If the Lisbon has never had a truck, then the department isn't accustomed to conducting truck company operations.  Even though their firefighters may have training in truck company ops, simply doing driver training and familiarizing themselves with the rig isn't sufficient to place a new truck company in service.  If they were an existing truck company just getting a new-to-them rig, it would go in service much faster.  In this case, they need to revise their SOP/SOG's.  Evaluate their response order of apparatus.  Train their crews on how truck company operations will be incorporated into their firefighting tactics.  Evaluate how this rig will fit into their mutual aid obligations and how they will interact with whomever used to provide truck company ops for them.  Will they run a dual response for the first few months with their existing truck company provider while they work out their operations.  And finally but not limited to, getting out into their first and eventual second due and setting the thing up at various structures to see how it deploys at various types of structures before they have to do it for real.

 
 
 I am just guessing on this but this town (Lisbon) has never had a ladder truck and they figure that might be the required time to get the guys trained on it. Just a guess.
 
 This is a small town also and I don't see it getting too much use here either.

On the update, it was sold to another CT department:
 
 
 

Below is an  Interesting    Historical  Tidbit about the  M/A  By  Honolulu FD  to  the US  government during  the  Japanese  Attack on  Pearl

Regardless of who takes that job or whether the person fails or succeeds in it, as I look at the cost to this fire department, I have to wonder how is that allowed to happen.
 
 It is stated that this fire department cost is MORE than the police, sanitation, roads, and the library - COMBINED. Something is seriously wrong there. And it seems that this individual is clearly upset with that. I can't say I blame her. I think if she were to fail it would be that despite her best interest, she may run into a brick wall put up by others who would try to resist this change in an effort to defend their own interest.
 
 In many places today, the "Good Ole' Boy System" is still Alive and Well.

The hose reel apparatus has not seen much use, as all the engines carry a fair amount of 5" LDH, and when a working fire is encountered, the responding mutual aid companies utilize their LDH as well. So the calls that require very long lays of LDH are few and far between. The last time I remember the hose reel unit used was at the "Uncle Bob's storage facility" fire on Rt.22 several years ago. There are hydrants in the village area, and in the Home Depot shopping center area; and several other isolated areas, but no- there is no new addition of hydrants into the district boundaries.

This unit is not that old. Surprising they are already selling it. Did they get an improved hydrant system recently, thus eliminating the need?

This unit is not that old. Surprising they are already selling it. Did they get an improved hydrant system recently, thus eliminating the need?

I'm sure if, God forbid, their house were on fire, I'd bet they'd want to make sure that all the first responders would hear the siren(s).  

 
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!  I don't know how many of these calls I've taken over the years, but it drives the point home!
 
 
It's the same thing.  "Let me move to this quiet neighborhood with the small fire department nearby."
 
The point of the siren for a volunteer agency is the redundancy of notifying personnel that an alarm has been charged.  That department has been assigned to an incident in their district or has been summoned as mutual aid to one of their neighboring districts.  Someone needs help, and this in one way to get the volunteers to get up and to the fire house.  It's funny how private citizens just either forget or are ignorant to the way it used to be.  There used to be no text messages, pagers, or electronic devices to wake you up in the middle of the night for a call.  The good old siren did the work for years.  Before that, people had to run down the street screaming "FIRE!" at the top of their lungs!  Yes, technology has done wonders in communicating to us that there is an emergency.  But, the downside to technology is the simple fact that it can fail.  Some hilly districts have dead spots for cell phones and/or pagers.  Some districts cannot afford pagers.  Some districts have almost no cell service.  So, what is the backup?  the good old siren.
 
I would also like to add that the siren is good indicator to motorists in busy downtown areas to prepare them for the looming fire apparatus response.

Beautiful truck

This is the coolest looking apparatus I have ever seen!

I lusted after that truck for the longest time.  I was too deep in restoring by '57 B Model from my college department that I bought.  The rig from Millwood was the first rig I ever went to a fire in.  At the time of construction, was one of the most modern pieces of fire apparatus ever built.  Enclosed cab for 5 FF's, early version of pre-piped foam, 1500 gallon tank on tandem axles.  It is one of two tandem axle factory B models ever built (others were built off of Mack chassis by other apparatus outfitters).  The other went to a company just outside Pittsburgh.  This rig was re powered from a 707c to a N/A diesel (which I have always believed to be a Mack unit but not 100% sure), power steering was added (it wasn't very effective), auto trans replaced the 5 speed crash box (the rig should have always been spec'd with a 5speed main and at least a two or three speed aux box) and air brakes were added.  Even with the diesel the rig was a pig, but it served Millwood very will until 1995 when T-15 was purchased.  My first job on this rig (and one of its last) was a fire in Yorktown's southern box on Adams Ridge Road running as a tanker.  The following year it shuttled a few loads of water 1994 I believe at a big fire in Croton's box on Bethea drive.  That was about it for the rig though.  It was incredibly slow even with the diesel motor.  You could potentially jog up Allapartus Road faster than this thing could go.  It was also limited as a tanker because it didn't have a dump valve and the TTP valve to pump the load off was only 1.5inch.
 
Nonetheless, this is my absolute favorite piece of firefighting history and quite possibly the most handsome fire truck ever produced.  I'm not sure who owns it now, but the restoration that they performed appears to be of the quality that I had planned for it if I ever got a hold of it (and subsequently what I did on my '57 from college.)
 
My '57
 

Just like when they took the "aluminum (4 D cell) kel lights" away from the LAPD and replaced them with plastic "Nerf lights" . 
They thought the aluminum lights could be used a a weapon.  Although they were quite bright and quite effective. 

What would happen if the old cherry wood night stick made a comeback< it kept bad guys at bay and intiminated folks and was something that could repel a quick attack as was the case with the old lady in the BX.

They're pretty busy  out there u tube has some clips of them at work

About a month ago, Detroit was being pounded by heavy rains. I put them on Broadcastify to listen in. They were running trees down, wires down and cars stuck in the flooding underpasses. I looked on the Internet for Detroit Fire to get an idea of what they run. What I found is astounding. Detroit is the arson capital of the world! It's almost like "The Bronx is Burning" back in the '70's & 80's. In a nutshell they have about 5,000 Working Fires or greater each year (that's about 13 a day). That's more than FDNY!! I couldn't believe it. Granted many of their fires are already burned buildings, but I've been listening the last month and they get their share of occupied structure fires & commercial fires. I am not exaggerating when I say that if turn on Broadcastify and listen in, there is either a Working Fire in progress, just ending, or one being dispatched. It's continuous. If this interests you, then read on.
 
The city has 28 Engines, 13 Ladders, 6 Squads, and 8 Battalion Chiefs. Within the city limits the cities of Hamtramck & Highland Park reside. These are two very small cities, both surrounded by Detroit and each is only about 2 square miles. Each city runs an engine and a ladder. They work in conjunction with Detroit and are even dispatched by Detroit. So adding in those two cities, Detroit is covered by 30 Engines, 15 Ladders, 6 Squads & 8 Battalions. I have NO idea how they have so many fires with such a relatively small department. In addition to the structure fires they have daily car fires, dumpster fires and also run first responder on medical calls. I am not sure what their mutual aid agreement is with surrounding cities. The firefighters in Detroit must go to work and expect to be working their whole shift on a daily basis. I'm just guessing but I assume they must rotate people from the quieter companies to the busier companies to keep them fresh. It sounds like everyday would be the equivalent of playing a football game. Again, only a guess, but the average Detroit firefighter probably lasts 20 years and then is completely broken-down and has to retire.
 
I like what they have for radio communications. They have fire dispatch on one frequency and then 8 fireground channels. They assign them by which chief is assigned first due to the box. If Battalion 4 is assigned, they assign Fireground 4. If there is another fire in Battalion 4's area, they just assign a fireground channel to whichever chief is coming in. "Companies responding to Main & Elm switch to Fireground 8 for Battalion 8."  In just a month I've heard numerous Working Fires going on at the same time.
 
There response, from what I can figure out is as follows:
Box Alarm 3 Engines, 1 Ladder, 1 Squad, 1 Battalion
Commercial Box Alarm: 4 Engines, 2 Ladders, 2 Squads, 2 Battalions
2nd Alarm: 3 Engines, 1 Ladder, 1 Squad, 1 Battalion (If it came is as a Box Alarm and they go to a 2nd it sounds like they round out the Commercial Box assignment along with the 2nd Alarm assignment.)
 
Their manning appears to be 4 on an Engine, Ladder, and Squad; however, all those units will drop to 3. So on any given shift Squad 1 may have 4 and Squad 2 may have 3. When they sign on location they'll declared their PAR. "Engine 9 on location, PAR 4." Here's what I don't understand, about 50 percent of the time a unit will sign off and say PAR 3 plus 1 or PAR 2 plus 1 or it may just be PAR 3 or PAR 4. So I don't think it's the number of firefighters plus the officer. All I can think of is that it must be Probies on the rig, which means about 20% of the department must be probies. The whole thing is just mind-boggling and I really can't wrap my brain around it. At busy times they must have 3 or 4 Workers at a time!
 
I'm sure many have heard about Devil's Night in Detroit (Oct. 30th). At one point they were averaging 80 structure fires on that night. I believe last year it was cut down to about 40. Well, Devil's Night is fast approaching and I will be sure to listen in. God Bless the Detroit firefighters and stay safe!