Disaster_Guy

Policies? Wow, if only more departments actually wrote those pesky things. I figured there was a policy to send someone with mutual aid and knew it wasn't "self-dispatching". Calling it self-dispatching was a very poor choice of words. Unless there is a policy or discussion with the requesting agency, sending more or less than is asked for undermines the entire operation. Time that nonsense stopped!
If people actually stopped commenting when someone answered the question properly on this site, there'd be half as many posts. But hey, we know what a department in Maryland does and what someone in Stamford thinks. Why listen to the YFD guy?

Its not self dispatch. Most depts. have policies about sending a chief or safety officer anytime a rig is sent M/A. YFD and other depts. are well aware of this. 60 Control does not tone them out, because who goes varies by time of day/day of week.
Actually, 60 Control does not dispatch specific units from any department.
i.e 60 Control to all New Rochelle Stations, respond 1 engine & 1 ladder to Yonkers Station #1, 5 New School Street. Guess what....nobody goes, the DC calls 60 and tells them who may go and 60 re-dispatches the units.

Great! So now the ETA to get off the ground won't be 45 minutes anymore? Oh, wait...

http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S3305-2011
BILL NUMBER:S3305
TITLE OF BILL: An act to amend the labor law, in relation to prohibiting an employer from terminating an employee who also is a volunteer firefighter or a volunteer provider of emergency medical services when that employee misses or is late to work because of an emergency to which the employee was dispatched
PURPOSE: The legislation is designed to ensure volunteer firefighters and EMS responders won't lose their paying jobs simply because they were late or missed work while performing their duties.
SUMMARY OF PROVISIONS: Section 1. The labor law is amended by adding a new section 202-1 to read as follows:
Section 202-1. Authorized absence. 1. If an employee is absent from or late to his or her employment due to his or her engaging in the actual performance of his or her duties as (a) volunteer firefighter, or ( an enrolled member of a volunteer ambulance service pursuant to article thirty of the public health law, an employer shall be prohibited from terminating such employee solely on the basis of such absence or lateness.
2. The entire period of the authorized absence may be charged against any other leave such employee is otherwise entitled to, and such authorized absence shall include travel both to and from such duties performed in his or her capacity as a volunteer. At the employer's request the employee must provide the employer with a statement from the head of the volunteer firefighter or volunteer ambulance service, as applicable, stating the employee responded to an emergency at the time of such response.
3. In the event that the employee does not have accrued time to offset any time lost in an emergency response the employer must either, at its option: (a) grant at least three hours of authorized absence in any twelve month period to an employee who has engaged in a volunteer response or ( allow its employees without use of accumulated leave time an authorized absence for volunteer response during work hours at least two times per calendar year.
4. The commissioner is hereby authorized to establish any necessary guidelines, including requirements for documentation of the emergency response, validation of accrued leave, and the conditions of dismissal and procedures for an employee to seek reinstatement and reimbursement if dismissed on the basis of an authorized absence.
JUSTIFICATION:
There are numerous examples of volunteers being discharged on the basis of tardiness or absenteeism even though the response was bona fide and in response to a dispatch from the Chief or appropriate person in charge.
The threat of losing a job has a chilling effect on response at a time when more that than 80 percent of New York State's geography is covered by volunteer response. Volunteers are frontline first responders and cannot be replaced without enormous cost to local governments at a time when the State is in the throes of a budget crisis.
The bill has several employer protections. It requires verification from a commanding officer that the volunteer was duly dispatched. It allows for absences to be charged against employee's accrued leave. It allows for verification of the timeline for the response.
Eight states including Ohio, Illinois and California have passed statues to protect their volunteers. Daytime response has become critical and attracting and retaining volunteers has become a daily challenge for local Fire Companies. Volunteers should not have to choose between their job and protecting their community.
PRIOR LEGISLATIVE HISTORY: A.9856/S.4988 - Veto #6791 of 2010
FISCAL IMPLICATIONS FOR STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS: None.
EFFECTIVE DATE: This act shall take effect immediately.

Engine 626 can contract with Port Authority of NY/NJ

https://www.facebook.com/Engine626

You mean it's not professional to spit out your dip three times while doing a camera interview?

Here is a direct link the video: http://www.lohud.com/videonetwork/2863775695001/House-fire-in-Yorktown

Radios confuse me.

All three agencies work together to provide the best possible care to the citizens and visitors of Yonkers. (A politically correct response?)

My volunteer FD is installing a larger emergency generator (in progress now), new heating system and electrical wiring to better withstand the weather related on/off power problems which caused several problems like burning out our emergency genset. We have the AC detector "hotsticks" on all rigs to detect down wires or unsafe electrical AC situations. We placed a 6x6 polaris with rescue stokes/brush Kimtek unit in service to assist getting around as well as we have a 4x4 utility pickup to get around down tree or off road areas. ( we had to go through woods to a backyard to access a EMS situation as the front street was blocked with down wires), I am qualified 35KVA & 4KVA glove hand line constructor supervisor so we do have live line (hotstick) tools and HV & low Voltage gloves and a Certified Utility Safety Administrator (CUSA) environment, health and safety utility administrator so I have extensive experience on transformer/utility fires and spills (benefit in a volunteer organization that many people bring outside skills to the table, and I invite career depts to request my/our help anytime if they don't have those skills). I agree the hot stick program about 10-15 years ago was not a good plan as the training was minimal at best. I do agree the AC detectors (one brand name also uses "hotsticks" which was a poor choice and they agreed it was a poor choice or names) is good but only with ongoing intensive training on utility systems, wires and equipment. We also have purchased more chain saws ( at least one per rig), pumps and generators. I have been pushing for more member assistance equipment so the firefighters family is in power and therefore not as much a worry to the member firefighter to respond or be on duty. We do storm standbys for the duration of most storms and have beds, food, etc. Our town and police/EMS and FD's have a command post in our OEM center manned during storms and we are getting better each time. We also have community center open for displaced residents. Our town instituted a phone call notification system for all residents to be updated. We are working with town on emergency mobile buffalo style fuel and water tanks. We store more barricade tape and upgraded in-house fuel tanks. We have zodiacs in each FD and split our district up on auto MA caused by river/creeks cutting off temporary access. We have more barricades and cones and traffic signs then ever. We also acquired a mobile flood light and generator. we built a new storage facility to help store the items. We have trench/building shores and lumber stored for collapse possibility. More haz mat materials for spill control in storage. Every FF has a portable which is the same as our trunk portables but also has our high band fireground frequencies with software to go trunk (DES limits the number of trunk portables) if needed in case one trunk goes bad. We have 3 notification systems to alert members ( pager, cell phone, area siren) and will be installing a new "I AM responding" system shortly. We have more flood suits and PFDs and ropes. We do not have swiftwater suits however would call the WCTRT for that need. We do have extensive rope rescue, confined space and related equipment, and yes training and more training.

Tonight @ 21:00 the Plattekill Fire Department was dispatched for a PIAA on the NYS Thruway at mile marker 71.1 South Bound. Car 1, Car 3, Engine 1, Engine 2, Engine 4, 645 and 47-36 where all responding when @ 21:11 We were advised that Engine 4 was involved in a Motor Vehicle Accident, roll over with entrapment.
I have a been some sort of a chief officer for 13 years now, in the fire service for 21 years and never once did I instantly feel like I was going to vomit while responding to an incident...not until last night. I can tell you there are so many things that are going through your head after receiving an alarm involving your own...
What do I do? Whom do I call? How difficult is the extrication? What Happened? What did they hit? Who is in the truck? But the toughest question, the one that still rings in my head is "Are they alive?"
I will not speak of specifics. I will not release the details of this incident and I will let the authorities finish their investigation. But what I can tell you, 4 of the 5 firefighters have been released. Engine 4 is a total loss and the definition of brotherhood was re-taught to me through the actions of area fire departments and fire departments through out the state.
Cronomer Valley whom handled the incident...Thank you!!! Your professionalism went a long way tonight. You are our brothers and for you I am thankful. With out getting into every department that has reached out to us, because I can guarantee someone with be forgotten, whether it be at either at our stations or through phone calls, I had 132 missed calls, Thank you!!! Never have I had such an out pouring of support just for us.
I ask you, do you know what it is like to have to sit at the back of your vehicle trying to coordinate different responses while your Firefighters need YOUR help? Not something I EVER want to handle again.
For years we instill into our memberships heads...Seat belts, seat belts, SEAT BELTS... and on November 2nd 2013 @ 21:11, those seat belts saved their lives.
At St. Francis Hospital...the support continued. Fairview, Roosevelt, Arlington Fire Departments, with Engines, and Lisa Gardner, whom provided me with very informative updates, met the inbound ambulances to assist with ANYTHING we needed, ANYTHING. Tears is the word that best described how I was after I was notified of your support! I cant say thank you because thank you doesn't cover your actions. I owe you... period.
At 1:21 we called back in service, My membership continuing to want to help the community, knowing that what we seen tonight could have been completely different.
We will continue serving the community, we are Plattekill. We ARE Plattekill Strong.
I ask no one post NO Photos or post no details until the investigation is complete and I approve of such postings.
Thank you Everyone.
Chief Christopher Mancuso

Date: 10/29/13
Time: 03:15
Incident Type: Structure Fire w/ reported people trapped
Location: 11 S Bond St (Cross of Mount Vernon Avenue)
District: City of Mount Vernon
FDMV Units: E3, E6, E4, E5, L1, L2, L3, B2
Transcare: Multiple
Empress: 1 ALS Rig
WCDES Units: Battalion 18, C&O Zone 1
Relocate MV Sta. 3: Pelham E5, Eastchester L15
Description: Heavy fire in basement and rear of two story frame with reports of 4 trapped.

03:18 - Battalion reports heavy fire showing in rear, reports of 4 people unaccounted for.
03:20 - EMS 1 and Mutual Aid EMS units to the scene.
03:23 - 2A reports heavy fire in rear and basement, 1 L/S/O, stretching a 2nd, primary underway. E5 added to box.
03:23 - Pelham Engine, Eastchester Truck to relocate Mount Vernon Station 3.
03:27 - 2A requests L2 abandon water condition they're operating at and come to fire scene.
03:28 - 2A reports fire extended to 2nd floor, reported people trapped, fire is doubtful.
03:35 - 2A reports heavy fire, crews heavily engaged. 03:40 - 2A requesting EMS to Command Post.
03:46 - Empress sending ALS unit to scene (Mutual Aid).
03:49 - 2A reports crews still heavily engaged, primaries still underway.
06:00 - Reports from local media sources that up to three civilians have perished at this fire.

First of all its a Clean Harbors truck, so you know its going to be a nightmare sorting through all the different products you're going to have inside. But it should be run the same way any other HAZMAT call runs, use the 8-Step Process:
1. Site Management and Control - Isolate the area, evacuate anyone nearby, set up some initial zones based on an unknown product, since this is a Clean Harbors truck and is likely a collection of various HAZMATs picked up from locations all over the place. Start ICS and make sure you have an IC and a Safety Officer. In CT we're also going to call the Dept. of Energy and Environmental Protection as required by state statute, they'll send one or two of their Emergency Response Coordinators out to assist. Regional (or in NY's case, County) HAZMAT team also added and EMS for standby.
2. Identify Product - The placards are only telling me so much. We're going to need some kind of paperwork on the products involved. If the leak isn't all over the place, we can likely send someone into the cab to get some shipping papers. If not, remember we're dealing with Clean Harbors here, not Crazy Joe's Overnight Waste Removal and Handyman Services. Its a HUGE environmental company with some professional management staff, and I wouldn't be totally surprised if they had an electronic database that will tell me exactly what's supposed to be inside that truck. Obviously we're going to trust but verify, but it will give me a starting point to get my research guys on.
3. Hazard and Risk Evaluation - Sure, the placards look scary, but realistically what states of matter am I dealing with? What's the hazard to my personnel if I send them in there? What are the exposure limits, etc?
4. PPE and Equipment - Based on the info from 2 and 3, I'm going to confer with my HAZMAT guys to determine what the right suit is to wear. Say it with me: NOT EVERY HAZMAT CALL REQUIRES LEVEL A!!!! Our team uses the HAZMATIQ system in our region, so based on the chemical name the "playbook" we use tells us what our PPE should be for our mission posture, either "Rescue" or "Plumbing," and what the metering package is that's relevant for that/those products. It will also lay out the "red light" meters, ones that, if they go off, indicate there's something unexpected happening or something we haven't accounted for in our plan. It really simplifies the process and cuts back on a lot of the chemistry lessons we need to give non-HAZMAT geek Chiefs and ICs on scene. Based on the video these guys are in turnouts and SCBA and some of the guys were in the Lion or Blauer suits with the Nomex outer shell so its probably pretty safe to assume the flammables were really their main concern, along with the respiratory hazards that we almost always protect ourselves from.
Most likely we're bringing in pH and F paper to ensure its not a corrosive atmosphere before we bring in the expensive toys, then a 4-gas, PID, Drager Chipset if you can narrow things down, maybe a First Defender or other Raman Spectroscopy device if you're really coming up with nothing at all (but only if you're sure its not a flammable)
5. Information Management and Resource Coordination - Do I have my ICS set up to make sure the right people are running the right operations? Do I have all the personnel and equipment I'm going to need for this operation? If not, who am I calling to get them? Do I have a RIT/Backup team in place? Am I going to need a forklift and/or jack for moving some of these drums?
6 - Implement Response Objectives - Now that we have ourselves organized and know what we're dealing with, lets go in and start moving some drums. Sort them out, figure out what's leaking and how to stop it. If we can't stop it, lets over-pack it and let the cleanup company get it the hell out of my district. But remember, we can't do anything until we have #7 at least set up first!
7 - Decontamination - Clean up the guys, the gear and the other drums that weren't leaking but have some product on them. Assuming the product wasn't that "Dangerous When Wet" one, we're probably just talking about soap and water, but again its based off what my research came back in steps 2/3.
8 - Termination - Brief everyone on short/long term symptoms of exposure, quick hotwash of what went well and what we can improve on. Start taking up and handing off the scene to the cleanup company (who will probably just end up being Clean Harbors again anyway.)

I'm surprised that anyone would have any issues when it comes to safety and health, especially in the firehouse where people might spend a majority of their time. There might be more to this story then what we know.

The storms over the past couple of years have highlighted some needs for us, and we have either received those or are in the process of securing them.
We lost our old, aluminum "Rescue Boat" during Irene. With the FEMA money we replaced it with a 14' Mercury RIB w/ 25 HP motor. We (prior to this) expanded our water rescue abilities with training and equipment, as well as dual-responses with neighboring Yorktown FD's Water Rescue Team. During Sandy, we were able to put this boat on the ready as well as our spare 12' inflatable.
Sandy knocked out power to our only firehouse without a generator. Although it is in the Capital Budget for next year, our village has approved to pursue a federal grant now to install it. Hopefully it works out.
The storms have sent us on dozens of calls that don't truly require the response of our larger apparatus, nor a ton of manpower. This year we were able to get the village to purchase us a Utility Truck, which we are in the process of getting ready to purchase and build.
This vehicle will be outfitted with extra saws, traffic barricades, trash pumps and the like for storm-related calls. It will also allow us to take specialized equipment from a rig going out of service and keep it on a vehicle so we don't lose it - something we've lacked for a long time.
Lastly, our "Radio Room" has seen some equipment additions and upgrades, and more on the way. This will give us a better place to set up and dispatch our units from during storms. A secondary communications system has been built and put on another firehouse - which is also our Village's backup EOC now.
I believe anytime we come up short on something, that should be the last time. If we don't learn from our mistakes, we are doing a disservice to everyone.

It would sellout in a week.

I would assume from not being there that the FAS Teams were put to work and needed to be replaced.

Not looking to defend or support this, but the 2% funds are a surcharge on fire insurance policies written by foreign (i.e. out of state) insurance companies. No tax money is involved.
An interesting interpretation from the NYS Insurance Department can be found here http://www.dfs.ny.gov/insurance/ogco2007/rg070522.htm .

Date:9/11/2013
Time:1951 hrs
Location: 1 D'Assearn Drive (Childrens Village)
Units: Dobbs Ferry 2091, 2092, 2093, Engine 47, Engine 48, Engine 49, Tower Ladder 23, Utility 24
Hastings 2181, 2182, 2184 Engine 46, Ladder 22
Irvington 2201, 2202, 2203 Ladder 36
Ardsley Engine 164 Relocate
WCDES Battalion 18, C&O

Description: Fire in 2 story occupied multiple dwelling 100 X 35. Fire on second floor. 2 lines stretched and operated. Fire contained to 1 apartment with extensive damage to multiple rooms. Smoke and water damage in 3 additional units. Occupants arrived home and discovered fire in apartment.

Date: 8/27/13
Time: 0350 HRS
Location: 4 Cross Street (Croton Creek Steak House)
Units: BAT13, E147, E148, E168, E273, T1, T2, T6, T8, TL57,
U88, U36, 2071, 2072, 2073, 2211, 2213, 2452, 2531, 2532, 2033, 72B2, 67B1.
Additional Engines/Tankers from Putnam County
Description: Working Fire
3 Story 75x75

Back when West Nile Virus became an issue. I took a call from an older female that went like this;
Me: "Fire Department."
Lady: "Hello, there are two birds on my front porch and they won't go away."
Me: "OK mam, this is the fire department, what do you want me to do?"
Lady: "Well I already called the police and they said to call you. These birds have been in front of my door for over a half hour and won't go away. They are very menacing and keep staring at me."
Me: "Unless they're on fire, we really can't do anything. If they're still there in a half hour, call the police and file a harassment complaint."

I would like to say one thing about the article in the news paper. I am a member in the village of Mamaroneck and the kid that says he was a fireman he is know longer a member of the department and when we arived on the scene he was standing out side. He was clean as if he was going out for the night and also told us nobody was in the house. If the members of the department didn't do a search we would have never found her so don't go by what you read in the newspaper because it is false I was one of the first on scene and have to say the Vmfd did a great job to save the women.

I would like to personally thank all the first responders for the quick and professional response as the fire was in my girlfriends house. So thank you to the brothers and sisters in VMFD MEMS and LVAC

Pictures by Journal News (there is also a video on their site):
http://www.lohud.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Avis=BH&Dato=20130809&Kategori=NEWS&Lopenr=308090067&Ref=PH
Video by News 12:
http://westchester.news12.com/news/new-york-national-and-air-national-guard-conducting-three-day-training-exercise-in-valhalla-1.5861568

To join the WCTRT you must be trained to the minimum of BRT which is a NYS course, be 21 and have taken FF or other (have some non-fire people i.e.; PD, EMS, Engineers, Surgeons, etc.) training, passed the annual NFPA/OSHA medical and have SCBA clearances for interior operations. Training continues with utilizing NYS Technical Rescue courses same as everyone else. WCTRT members progress from awareness to operational to technician as they take courses. They have varying amounts of awareness, operational and technical level responders in each of the seven TRT areas and meet all NFPA standards. The twice monthly are drills to maintain and refresh training based on the NYS courses and are usually under the guidance of a NYS instructor. Two years ago WCTRT were called about 12 times in one year and responded with over 20 technician level responders for each of the calls, with more operational and awareness level members. WCTRT went on structural collapses, trench rescues, swift water/Flood rescues, wilderness SAR, confined space, high angle rope rescues, etc. It was a busy year, but since then responses have averaged 4-6 per year which is what was anticipated. WCTRT also have been dispatched regionally by the state during storm and resultant flood waters and the state recognizes WCTRT have "come a long way in a short time”. Our apparatus & equipment is incredible in how it has grown and we have been trained on all of the various apparatus. Includes the MEC rail cars were we can access rail lines during TRT or haz mat calls. START training gave us technician & specialist T-T-T level training prior to initiation county-wide. The present 20-40 responders on each of the calls is typical and we can call on more if the call is extended. We have gone through 3 sets of 50 to 100 technicians prior to the present (4th round of) staffing which is between 50-100 averaging approximately 75. In the ideal world we would like to keep all of the people however, people and lives change and the pay is not so good. Most of our equipment and apparatus have been paid for through various grants with minimal cost to the residents of Westchester County. We also have a mutual aid team for back up and we are speaking to other regions to work together. To date all WCTRT members have not received one dime for our time or effort or even for our personal gas, nor do we ask for it. Response times are: apparatus out the door manned within minutes of dispatch as it is a central location and we need to drive to it. For one, I am usually there in about 5-10 minutes depending on traffic. Many members and team leaders respond directly to the scene depending on the location of the member to the call location to provide expertise to the local first responders. We have so much equipment it takes a large binder to maintain the records but I would estimate there is $5-10 million invested. We have saved more than one life, and as we all say in emergency services ..."if we save one life it was all worth it". I hope this answers your questions, and please show some respect for a quality team. I don't bad mouth your career squads and you should not bad mouth the "volunteer" team. We are both in it for one purpose....and the WCTRT has performed well in that respect. BTW, nice high angle rescue on that apartment building in Yonkers a while ago but you should have called us for back up (Ha-hah). You were called to the tornado in Mt Pleasant, in an OMG a 100% volunteer area. And just so you know, the county executive past and present, and the Board of Legislators realize we are cost effective and a highly regarded TRT by our peers. I only wish we could work together. I say that you should want a trained FF even if all you can afford is a volunteer (yes we meet all national and state standards regardless of what some of you think, and yes some volunteer leaders don't lead, but I see that in career departments as well) with minimum staffing and if it means a mix of volunteer until you can afford more, you should embrace it for the good of your community. I guess my glasses are a little too rose colored....
I know most if not all of the posters above and most of you know me. I am an original founder of the team started in August 2001, and the county approved the team several years later. So we have been in service for over 12 years, I believe 7 under the county. I usually don't answer requests on this site as it seems anything a "volunteer" does is no good to some, and eventually turns into a bashing and pissing match. That's not my style. I quote LA's Rodney King, "can't we all just get along (work) together?" So I say: The emperor has clothes in this case....and more....much more....it is not unnecessary, is the most cost effective and most viable special operations, that’s why it was chosen to serve all of Westchester County and continues serving with distinction today.
I would like to emphasize that in this post as well as in any post I make on EMTBravo, or elsewhere, I am expressing myself as a private citizen, in a non-official capacity. The content of my posts is not being disclosed in my official capacity and such content represents solely my opinions and does not necessarily represent the official position of the County of Westchester or the Thornwood Fire Department.

And yes, I realize it would be safer to express myself anonymously, but that is not my style and never will be.

Date: 7/28/13
Time: 16:30 hours
Location: Village of Kiryas Joel, Orange County, NY. Subject went missing IAO Lizensk Blvd. cul-de-sac x Schunnemunk Rd.
Units:
KJ Public Safety Patrol, KJ Chaveirem (with Mobile Command Center), KJ Hatzolah, KJ Fire Department, KJ Shomrim; Boro Park (BSSP) Shomrim (with ATVs), Williamsburg Shomrim, Rockland County Shomrim, Rockland County Chaverim, Monsey Chaveirem (with ATVs), New Square Ershte Hilf/Volunteer Fire Company;
Hasidic residents of KJ/Monroe, Catskills, and NYC;
Woodbury FD, Monroe FD marine unit, 36-3, 36-1;
NYSP (multiple units), NYSP K-9, Orange County Sheriffs, Orange County Sheriffs marine units, NYS Forest Rangers.
Description: Large search for missing 10-year old Autistic/Downs Syndrome, Hasidic boy. Officials don't think boy is hurt, as of 23:00 hrs. Road closures and delays throughout Village.
16:30 hrs: search by KJ emergency services agencies begins.
17:00 hrs: NYSP assisting.
21:30 hrs: Command Post located at 30 Schunnemunk Rd. IFO Bais HaChaim.
22:00 hrs: Orange County Sheriffs Marine units searching Shadow Lake and Lebanon Lake.
22:30 hrs: More manpower requested to do additional full sweep of Village.
23:00 hrs: Hundreds of people still searching.
23:30 hrs: NYSP K-9 at possible shirt of boy on Forest Rd. IAO a bus stop.
00:00 hrs: Command Post moved to Shopping Center.
01:30 hrs: Command Post reopened IFO Bais HaChaim.
01:45 hrs: several hundred people located at the CP are volunteering to search.
08:00 hrs: search begins after being called off late last night. Reportedly with one or two NYSP helicopters.
08:45 hrs: minivan rollover with injury IFO Valero gas station x Rt. 208. KJFD, Monroe FD, Hatzolah, PD operating.
09:25: child has been found by NYSP trooper in the Village after being missing for 14 hours. Being evaluated by KJ Hatzolah.
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/article.php?p=179500
http://jpupdates.com/2013/07/29/photos-of-kiryas-joel-ny-search-for-missing-10-year-old/ (pictures)
http://www.vosizneias.com/137239/2013/07/28/monroe-ny-kiryas-joel-boy-still-missing-last-seen-930-pm-in-village/
http://www.midhudsonnews.com/News/2013/July/28/KJ_missingchild-28Jul13.htm