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We recently took delivery of two buses and when we were speaking to ambulance dealers last fall they noted these would likely be the last ones that won't be required to have powerload systems. It appears that all the new regulatory entities (mandatory some places, not in others?) now require the load system? As I recall it's KKK, NFPA and maybe one other?

If you look closely he is operating with the bale partially open and suddenly opens it completely accidentally. This is a hard lesson in why we preach the nozzle is open or closed. To properly operate the nozzle in the fully open position the PDP would have to be lowered, basically all but removing the possibility of a  sudden increase in discharge flow and nozzle reaction. Sure we all operate nozzles partially open during mop up and other less hazards scenarios, but this shows what can happen. 

If you look closely he is operating with the bale partially open and suddenly opens it completely accidentally. This is a hard lesson in why we preach the nozzle is open or closed. To properly operate the nozzle in the fully open position the PDP would have to be lowered, basically all but removing the possibility of a  sudden increase in discharge flow and nozzle reaction. Sure we all operate nozzles partially open during mop up and other less hazards scenarios, but this shows what can happen. 

If you look closely he is operating with the bale partially open and suddenly opens it completely accidentally. This is a hard lesson in why we preach the nozzle is open or closed. To properly operate the nozzle in the fully open position the PDP would have to be lowered, basically all but removing the possibility of a  sudden increase in discharge flow and nozzle reaction. Sure we all operate nozzles partially open during mop up and other less hazards scenarios, but this shows what can happen. 

This is part of the rumored issue from what we're hearing. Apparently Scott was not buying the claim that the injuries were SCBA related and told them to wear the waist strap as designed before pointing fingers. 

Rumors abound about this major shift from Scott. There are few if any other brands on this job that I have a deep a loyalty to. I'v e switched helmets, boots, bunkers, hose, nozzle, apparatus and always felt fine, but a switch from Scott to anything else would be a hard pill to swallow. I'm not sure of any piece of equipment we invest so much time in being intimate with and rely on for so much. I can honestly say I've never had an issue that took air away from my mask with Scott, something I cannot say about previous uses with two other major brands. I hope this works out for BFD and isn't due to a foolish backlash.

Rumors abound about this major shift from Scott. There are few if any other brands on this job that I have a deep a loyalty to. I'v e switched helmets, boots, bunkers, hose, nozzle, apparatus and always felt fine, but a switch from Scott to anything else would be a hard pill to swallow. I'm not sure of any piece of equipment we invest so much time in being intimate with and rely on for so much. I can honestly say I've never had an issue that took air away from my mask with Scott, something I cannot say about previous uses with two other major brands. I hope this works out for BFD and isn't due to a foolish backlash.

I think its legit, except for the .50 typo.  That's drinking into a coma range.  Betting its suppose to be .05.  Remember Ireland a year or two back tried to or raised the DWI levels in rural areas.

This is part of the rumored issue from what we're hearing. Apparently Scott was not buying the claim that the injuries were SCBA related and told them to wear the waist strap as designed before pointing fingers. 

Rumors abound about this major shift from Scott. There are few if any other brands on this job that I have a deep a loyalty to. I'v e switched helmets, boots, bunkers, hose, nozzle, apparatus and always felt fine, but a switch from Scott to anything else would be a hard pill to swallow. I'm not sure of any piece of equipment we invest so much time in being intimate with and rely on for so much. I can honestly say I've never had an issue that took air away from my mask with Scott, something I cannot say about previous uses with two other major brands. I hope this works out for BFD and isn't due to a foolish backlash.

This is part of the rumored issue from what we're hearing. Apparently Scott was not buying the claim that the injuries were SCBA related and told them to wear the waist strap as designed before pointing fingers. 

Isn't most of the weight of the SCBA supposed to sit on your hips instead? I doubt there is a weight or ergonomic difference between Scott and MSA>

Rumors abound about this major shift from Scott. There are few if any other brands on this job that I have a deep a loyalty to. I'v e switched helmets, boots, bunkers, hose, nozzle, apparatus and always felt fine, but a switch from Scott to anything else would be a hard pill to swallow. I'm not sure of any piece of equipment we invest so much time in being intimate with and rely on for so much. I can honestly say I've never had an issue that took air away from my mask with Scott, something I cannot say about previous uses with two other major brands. I hope this works out for BFD and isn't due to a foolish backlash.

So who is Hartsdale? Is it the volunteer members (6 is it?) or the FD as a whole which includes taxpayer funded career personnel? Or is it the community leaders, or the taxpayer themselves? 
 
What is sad is the failure to recognize that FD's or any organization that takes money that is either or tax or portion of another payment should be 100% accounted for and used in an appropriate manner. FD's provide a service to the community, thus they serve the community, not themselves as it appears in so many cases.  
 
This is the kind of stuff that drives a huge wedge between career and volunteer firefighters. This makes us all look bad, when it's thankfully a handful of the total US Fire Service. No wonder people question why providing fire services is so expensive, they see how much money is spent frivolously by some and think we all do it.

So who is Hartsdale? Is it the volunteer members (6 is it?) or the FD as a whole which includes taxpayer funded career personnel? Or is it the community leaders, or the taxpayer themselves? 
 
What is sad is the failure to recognize that FD's or any organization that takes money that is either or tax or portion of another payment should be 100% accounted for and used in an appropriate manner. FD's provide a service to the community, thus they serve the community, not themselves as it appears in so many cases.  
 
This is the kind of stuff that drives a huge wedge between career and volunteer firefighters. This makes us all look bad, when it's thankfully a handful of the total US Fire Service. No wonder people question why providing fire services is so expensive, they see how much money is spent frivolously by some and think we all do it.

So who is Hartsdale? Is it the volunteer members (6 is it?) or the FD as a whole which includes taxpayer funded career personnel? Or is it the community leaders, or the taxpayer themselves? 
 
What is sad is the failure to recognize that FD's or any organization that takes money that is either or tax or portion of another payment should be 100% accounted for and used in an appropriate manner. FD's provide a service to the community, thus they serve the community, not themselves as it appears in so many cases.  
 
This is the kind of stuff that drives a huge wedge between career and volunteer firefighters. This makes us all look bad, when it's thankfully a handful of the total US Fire Service. No wonder people question why providing fire services is so expensive, they see how much money is spent frivolously by some and think we all do it.

So who is Hartsdale? Is it the volunteer members (6 is it?) or the FD as a whole which includes taxpayer funded career personnel? Or is it the community leaders, or the taxpayer themselves? 
 
What is sad is the failure to recognize that FD's or any organization that takes money that is either or tax or portion of another payment should be 100% accounted for and used in an appropriate manner. FD's provide a service to the community, thus they serve the community, not themselves as it appears in so many cases.  
 
This is the kind of stuff that drives a huge wedge between career and volunteer firefighters. This makes us all look bad, when it's thankfully a handful of the total US Fire Service. No wonder people question why providing fire services is so expensive, they see how much money is spent frivolously by some and think we all do it.

Speaking as a taxpayer, we should all want the money re-collected. These grant programs use federal dollars and when they go unused they should return to the collecting body to offset other needs. Letting this one city slide helps its taxpayers at our expense. The downside is that the citizens and FD are likely going to suffer due to poor financial management in city administration.

Speaking as a taxpayer, we should all want the money re-collected. These grant programs use federal dollars and when they go unused they should return to the collecting body to offset other needs. Letting this one city slide helps its taxpayers at our expense. The downside is that the citizens and FD are likely going to suffer due to poor financial management in city administration.

I was thinking along those lines. Anti-patriotism among more that 2 commissioners? Really? I'd find it unlikely that any board involved in emergency service would have an anti-American slant. There are plenty of reasons this may have come about, most are likley the result of fear of some sort of reprisal: Some citizen complains that responding into their neighborhood waiving the flag is seen as a type of "invasion" while their neighborhood is in America (some people think strange things). 

"Absolutely an attempt to stifle patriotism" or this is a labor management thing, where the board is flexing its muscles?
 
a lot of people have assumed the first and most are blind to any other possibility 
 

We have been told not to use brushes to wash the truck as it can harm the finish. What is the possibility that a master stream will damage the paint?

Because many fail to see the bigger picture and context involved when Quints are introduced, particularly on a larger scale like what St. Louis and Richmond, VA did.  I think there's a tendency to blame the apparatus' existence rather than the people making the decision to make cuts to the department. 
 
As I understand the St. Louis history, the decision was made to make cuts to manpower and companies due to financial needs.  The Total Quint Concept (TQC) that they pioneered was born out of trying to achieve the necessary reductions without closing stations, ensuring suppression capabilities at each station continued and not severely hindering operations.  I forget the exact numbers off hand, but I think they had something like 30 stations with 30 engine companies and lets say 10 truck companies.  This would give them 10 double houses at the time. 
 
They needed to cut something like 6 companies.  So they were looking at either closing some houses altogether or potentially having some houses with only a truck company in order to not close the house.   They deployed 30 engine quints and 4 truck quints from those 30 stations.   It's easy to look at the raw numbers and link quints to their loss of manpower/apparatus.  However, it wasn't the quint that killed their manpower with the closing of 6 companies or whatever it was.  The City did that with the decision to make the cuts.
 
The adoption of the TQC allowed them to keep all stations open, kept a suppression capable unit in each station and provided some increased operational flexibility.  Was it ideal?  Probably not, but was it a workable solution for the situation?  Seemed like it worked.
 
As for the rescue engine, it seems the tendency with them is more about enhancing the engine's capability rather than replacing the Rescue Company, thus they don't have that same correlation with manpower reduction that the quint does.

I doubt most of us would have a similar take if they wanted to lengthen out the years of service before retirement eligibility? Many had to fight to get 20 or 25 year no age retirement plans to ensure our members could safely do the job up until their last day, how do we make that argument and then fight maximum age limits?
 
This is a younger persons game and we certainly cannot guarantee all personnel will ascend in rank to a safer less physical job. While we lose people of all ages, the stats are fairly clear that firefighters have much higher health risks than most professions and we can be certain that with every passing year those risks multiply. Couple this with the heavy responsibility we have to complete our duties, which in most cases doesn't allow for redundancy, we put ourselves and the public at greater risk when we don't do all we can to strengthen our weakest links. I don't know what FDNY need to get to make full retirement, but I know I need to make my full 25 years and with that 4 1/2 years away I can say for sure that every year that goes by recovering from an injury or even a tough job gets harder and harder. I started at age 26 and now at 46 am thinking that going until age 61 would be pretty near impossible, and I haven't ridden backwards for over a decade. 
 
Of course they want the FD to hire older people, they can make the case they're making about minorities and in the long run retirees will be older, resulting in less money expended between retirement and death, if they actually make it to a full pension. What do you bet that's a huge fiscal impact in NYC?

I don't believe firefighting in NYC can be compared with many other departments around the area.  Companies are doing 15-20+ runs per day and the job is much more physical than a lot of others.  It's not the old days of jeans, a coat and helmet and a saw to the roof.  The weight of turnout gear and your compliment of tools can and will put a beating on the body.  Heart attacks for middle aged firemen seems to be more common as well.  It's becoming more and more of a young mans job and for good reasons.
 
Not to mention the real reason for this bullshit change.  It is not for the bettermeant of the people we serve, period