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Who wants to take bets on the BAC of the parties involved at the time of the incident?

I would like to refer my answer to the top line of your profile picture.

Consolidating.....Saving Money....
No way. Someone pinch me.
And floorabove, the call volume may not dictate the utter necessity to hire, but two houses in a 5 sq. mi. district, and no response from the volunteer's at this station, good call by the Commissioners. Save some money.

We use to have some WCPD pilots on here what ever happened to them?

Permenantly grounded due to strong storm fronts....

Undercover beer truck, they have to sneak the booze in somehow

Undercover beer truck, they have to sneak the booze in somehow

Undercover beer truck, they have to sneak the booze in somehow

Undercover beer truck, they have to sneak the booze in somehow

Undercover beer truck, they have to sneak the booze in somehow

We found that with the E450 chassis, gear and two crew members, we rapidly approached max GVW. This is one reason we moved to the C4500 and now the Terra Star chassis.
Get in a bad wreck, your vehicle will likely get weighed. Don't end up on the wrong side of the scale.

The short answer is that it is an emergency until the fire(s) are out, and all aideds are removed.
Once the emergency is over, then it becomes an investigation.
The real answer is a bit more complicated, depending on many issues and personalities, so lets stick with the short answer for now.

Date: 11/15/13
Time: 1450hrs
Incident Type: MVA w/Pin
Location: Orrs Mills Rd. and Beakes Rd.
District: Vails Gate Fire District/Town of Cornwall
Units: VGFD Car-2 (IC), R480, E478, E479 (LZ), Cornwall EMS (numerous), New Windsor EMS, Stat-Flight, T/Cornwall PD, New Windsor PD
Description: Head-on MVA w/entrapment
1450hrs-Base-5 (NWPD) alerting Vails Gate for the reported MVA w/entrapment and serious injuries.
VGFD Car-2 arrived, established command and advised of a head-on MVA w/(1) person pinned.
Units were advised that a Medevac had been placed on stand-by.
VGFD R480 arrived and placed the hydraulic tools into service. Members performed a door and roof removal and then a dash-roll to free the front seat passenger.
The Chief of Cornwall EMS requested a launch of the Medevac. VGFD Car-2 directed E479 to secure te LZ at the Solid Rock Church, route 32 and Holloran Rd.
Once extrication was complete, the patient was packaged and transported to the LZ. Other patients were transported by ground.
Units then began to pick-up and return to service.

Figured this was the right time of year to bring up this topic. In my volunteer department, any CO detector activation with no reported illness gets a chief or line officer with a meter, non emergency response. Any reported symptoms gets a full department response, often non emergency.
I hear countless departments going full department code 3 response to CO detector activations with no reported illness. I don't view this as an emergency call, just wondering how they justify their actions should an accident occur with an apparatus or a member in a POV.

Probably because many members work for paid services which may or may not monitor this website, and those users may or may not intentionally or unintentionally say something their employer doesn't like.

Looking at your post above and going to your profile all we see is that you're a male from Yonkers, so what's your beef if you're not even doing what you've stated above?

Date: 11/12/13
Time: 8:08
Incident Type: Pedestrian Struck by Train
Location: 3/4 Mile South of the Hartsdale Train Station IAO Pipeline
District: Hartsdale FD, Hartsdale EMS, MTA PD, etc.
Units: Unknown

Description: MTA reporting indefinite delays due to a fatality at the Hartsdale Train Station. Commuters shoud prepare for an extended delay due to police activity.
***This information has not officially been announced. This was stated in an apology over the loudspeaker on the train on which I am delayed.***

Date:11/6/13
Time: 21:01
Incident Type: MVA w/ diesel spill
Location:I-684 NB area of 17.8
District: Katonah
Units: Katonah Fire: 2211 2212, R-17, E-115 KBHVAC: 65B2, WEMS: 45M1

Description:
21:01 Katonah FD, 45Medic 1 KBHVAC dispatched, tractor trailer roll over NB I-684 under Jay Street Overpass, possible entrapment
21:02 2212 responding
21:03 R-17 Responding
21:04 NYSP chatter states near milemarker 17.8
21:06 E-115 responding
21:06 KBHVAC 63B2 responding
21:07 On scene with the medic, possible self extrication, tractor trailer rolled over on side, leaking diesel fuel
21:09 R-17 On Scene, taking middle lane, keeping left lane open, middle and right lane used as saftey zone
21:09 2212 requiring spill number, lots of diesel on the roadway
21:11 E-115 On Scene, pull in front of R-17, help R-17 with light source, "going to need lots of light"
21:19 KBHVAC on scene
21:24 reported leak is plugged, significant hazard with the trailer
21:25 2211 on scene
21:27 2211 assuming command
21:32 KBHVAC en route NWH BLS
21:41 KBHVAC out NWH
still updating..

Well said Chris, I hope all are able to recover. If you guys need any assistance we are her for you.
Jim Tompkins

Some photos about 30 minutes into the fire

Tonight @ 21:00 the Plattekill Fire Department was dispatched for a PIAA on the NYS Thruway at mile marker 71.1 South Bound. Car 1, Car 3, Engine 1, Engine 2, Engine 4, 645 and 47-36 where all responding when @ 21:11 We were advised that Engine 4 was involved in a Motor Vehicle Accident, roll over with entrapment.
I have a been some sort of a chief officer for 13 years now, in the fire service for 21 years and never once did I instantly feel like I was going to vomit while responding to an incident...not until last night. I can tell you there are so many things that are going through your head after receiving an alarm involving your own...
What do I do? Whom do I call? How difficult is the extrication? What Happened? What did they hit? Who is in the truck? But the toughest question, the one that still rings in my head is "Are they alive?"
I will not speak of specifics. I will not release the details of this incident and I will let the authorities finish their investigation. But what I can tell you, 4 of the 5 firefighters have been released. Engine 4 is a total loss and the definition of brotherhood was re-taught to me through the actions of area fire departments and fire departments through out the state.
Cronomer Valley whom handled the incident...Thank you!!! Your professionalism went a long way tonight. You are our brothers and for you I am thankful. With out getting into every department that has reached out to us, because I can guarantee someone with be forgotten, whether it be at either at our stations or through phone calls, I had 132 missed calls, Thank you!!! Never have I had such an out pouring of support just for us.
I ask you, do you know what it is like to have to sit at the back of your vehicle trying to coordinate different responses while your Firefighters need YOUR help? Not something I EVER want to handle again.
For years we instill into our memberships heads...Seat belts, seat belts, SEAT BELTS... and on November 2nd 2013 @ 21:11, those seat belts saved their lives.
At St. Francis Hospital...the support continued. Fairview, Roosevelt, Arlington Fire Departments, with Engines, and Lisa Gardner, whom provided me with very informative updates, met the inbound ambulances to assist with ANYTHING we needed, ANYTHING. Tears is the word that best described how I was after I was notified of your support! I cant say thank you because thank you doesn't cover your actions. I owe you... period.
At 1:21 we called back in service, My membership continuing to want to help the community, knowing that what we seen tonight could have been completely different.
We will continue serving the community, we are Plattekill. We ARE Plattekill Strong.
I ask no one post NO Photos or post no details until the investigation is complete and I approve of such postings.
Thank you Everyone.
Chief Christopher Mancuso

Date: 10/02/13
Time: 0045hrs
Incident Type: Structure Fire
Location: 151 Dupont Ave.
District: City of Newburgh
Units: City of Newburgh FD, Good-Will, Vails Gate (FAST), MLSS, C/NPD, others
Description: Structure Fire w/(1) fatality
Link to Times Herald Record:
http://m.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20131102/NEWS/131109954/-1/WAP&template=wapart

I don't know, nor do I care, what this Chief was doing, that business is between him, his Department and those who foot the bill. But what should be clear to everyone by now is that we are ALL under scrutiny...everyday, everywhere, anytime, any place. Whether it's driving dept vehicles or simply wearing FD apparel think before you act...or speak. A moment of carelessness and you just might find yourself plastered all over Youtube, and the fodder for forums like this...or worse still, in the unemployment line on the evening news trying to explain yourself.

I need to know.. Does anyone actually think the public care about this when they see it? We all see it because we are on the job and notice it. I bet if you asked anyone in a parking lot when we come across these vehicles, they would A. have no clue where the Town is in the state and B. Not really care. Now i am not talking about just this one instance. I am talking about any time it happens. The public do not care until it is a big deal (ie. a accident or something). John Q public is going to be more worried about his shopping, getting to work, (why aren't my darn kids here where i said i would pick them up) then even care about this. Plus nothing will ever happen to change it. You can make rules that you cant go out of town with it but so what. What if he needs to go see a few chiefs or need to make a pick up somewhere of some gear, is he going to check in with mommy to ask if he can leave the block? Exactly. He is the chief, he is the boss. you might not like it but he has the authority to go where he wants. If on the other hand he takes a apparatus then ya we need to know every mile you are gonna take.
Now let the man shop and stop stirring up a ruckus.

201/65 is correct. It's a combination of AGR aka full time guardsmen on active duty orders and guardsmen employed as NYS employees. Having been a member of the air guard in ny, I know also yes you need to be a member of the guard.
The ARFF firefighters attend training a in Texas at Shepard AFB and also get HAZMAT training and interior. They respond off the base to Newburghand surrounding areas.
The same is true at the 106th Rescue Wing (pararescue ) in West Hampton on the East End. They reaspond quite often to assist the Hamptons fire departments.