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Video from the fire.
http://www.lohud.com/videonetwork/2703186498001/Pleasantville-Cottage-School-fire-?BCNextUpID=48304529001_0

791075 is correct, the length of a " Great Lake Greenie" indicated the amount of resources needed for fire extinguishment

Tragically the dog committed suicide by jumping out of a window......

"Back in the day you could tell the number of alarms a fire was by the length of the "stringers" hangin from the truckies noses when they poke their heads out of a window ...two inch stringer was two alarms, four inch stringer was four alarms and so forth."

Play the video backwards...it will look like the fire is going out.

Some photos as Staff Sgt. Todd Lobraico's motorcade travels along I-84 in Putnam.
http://www.lohud.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Avis=BH&Dato=20130911&Kategori=NEWS&Lopenr=309110095&Ref=PH

What I can't believe is that there is actually a discussion about this. R U effin kidding me? Who the "F" cares fellows call it as you see it!

Ok here is an unofficial way of looking at it. Did the reason for you going on the call require you to ventilate smoke. Smoke causes damage which might require the insurance company to shell out $$$$ for soot removal. Or a step in a different direction, how about a bad puffback? CO thru the roof, lots of smoke, an IDLH. You had to mask up to perform you duties. Not a high Five working fire, Hmmm. What does your report state? Ok here is one more, you guys are all using the advancement of a hoseline, how about the truck knocks down the kitchen cabinets that are just taking off, before the line gets stretched. Not a working fire? Why? not big enough?

According to the IA,only 1 Engine and 1 Truck were on the initial dispatch. Is that normal for a Multi Dwell of that size(again refering to the IA report of 60 displaced) at 3 AM?

Village of Mamaroneck 1963 Seagrave Engine 39 photo by Glenn Vincent

I would like to clarify my post quoted. First thing is first. I apologize to the members of VMFD who were not mentioned specifically as I did not have that information available when I wrote my quote. Those members have since been named, and congratulations to them are in order. If it wasn't for the good search preformed by the E-38 crew (I believe that was the correct engine, if not a am sorry again) and the quick efforts of the members performing CPR quickly, and getting early advance care. This person would not be here. You all deserve a way to go for this job, victims of fire in these kind of cases survival rates are far and few between. Be proud. You all made a difference and that's what it is all about.

I would like to say one thing about the article in the news paper. I am a member in the village of Mamaroneck and the kid that says he was a fireman he is know longer a member of the department and when we arived on the scene he was standing out side. He was clean as if he was going out for the night and also told us nobody was in the house. If the members of the department didn't do a search we would have never found her so don't go by what you read in the newspaper because it is false I was one of the first on scene and have to say the Vmfd did a great job to save the women.

Very early response to the World Trade Center, nothing will ever compare to that

Captain Morris was my Captain at Ladder 28 and at Rescue 1. It was an honor and a privilege to have worked for him. As a "proby" in L28, I made a mistake at a fire and thought for sure he was going to rip me apart for it. Instead he said "do you know what you did wrong, did you learn from it, and will you never make the mistake again?". That is the essence of leadership. Last night at his "Last Tour Party", I reminded him of a conversation we had back in L-28 after he had turned down Battalion Chief for the final time and I asked him why and his response back then was "I still have 10 miles of hallways to crawl down and doors to force". Last night I asked if he had made the 10 miles of hallways and he said he came close but the clock ran out. I congratulate the Captain on his retirement and thank him for letting me serve in his companies. As a friend said to me the other day: "the man had a lot of influence on my fire department career".

So new Rochelle catches a job in the projects last night and this is the outcome. Just found this on another site and copied and pasted it. I can tell you for sure that when my company responds to a EDP or suicide attempt or some other dangerous call and PD advises to wait until scene is secure before entry I do just that. I have also been on location first before the arrival of PD and stood fast and waited. I do not know if the person I am responding to is injured or dead and I really don't care at that point. I do know that my guys won't end up injured or dead by my stupid decision to enter a scene I can't control. Do FD's really need to get on the air to advise PD to stand by until scene is safe or should they be grown ups and realize it's out of their hands? Do these officers really need to be on the fire floor? Maybe we should wait for the bagpipes to decide.
Two New Rochelle Police Officers Injured In Fire
By James O'Toole on Mon, 06/24/2013 - 04:41
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A Sunday evening fire at 590 Fifth avenue sent two New Rochelle Police officers to Sound Shore Medical center for treatment.There injuries are not serious according to fire department radio reports.
The fire broke out in a fifth floor apartment that was not occupied at the time of the fire.The fire was contained to one apartment. Some other apartments got smoke damage and water damage.Most people returned to there apartments after the fire department gave the all clear

I have still yet to find one incidence of injury caused by a faulty helmet. How many of you knew that a motorcycle helmet should be disposed of after it falls from more than a few feet? How many times have you dropped your helmet at work? Our necks are not designed to absorb impact, not at all, so it doesn't matter what kind of shell, or what kind of suspension you have, none of it will do a lick of good if you are wearing a helmet. Our helmet was designed to keep water off our necks, and heat off our scalp. Only in the 80's did the introduction of an impact cap inside the leather helmets start the transition to this standard we have today. Anything short of a iron beam coming down directly on a leather helmet which your least worry would be an intrusion of the iron in to your skull, but the severe impact to your skull and spine. This is just another hole in the traditions of the greatest job in the world. Pretty soon it will be salad bowls for everyone (helmets worn in california.)

We all know what this job is about. This is one place that tradition comes into play in a meaningful way, and I don't care to hear from the naysayers and that "200 years of tradition uninterrupted by progress. I'm not talking about tactics and strategy, fog vs. straight, PPA. Those things are not tradition. A firefighter''s helmet is a symbol of who he is or who he was. Whatever style of helmet he wore is not the operative here. The symbolism here is that it is HIS helmet. Wearing this helmet he has accomplished things that the average person could not ever fathom. He has seen life and he has seen death. He calls anyone who wears similar headgear his brother because he knows where that person has been. If a firefighter meets his death on the job, it is his helmet that leads him to his funeral service.
My father passed away, non-LODD, when I was 15 years old. His helmet was solemnly and ceremoniously presented to me by one of his brothers. When my first son got on the job, I presented him with that same helmet. When my second son got on the job, I presented him with my old helmet. Those helmets are kept in places of honor in their homes. Why? Because that helmet says "That's who we are."
Politicians, City Managers, the general public, and unfortunately, some firefighters don't understand the symbolism. As for the rest of us, "You can leave this job, but you can't leave this job behind"
So, then, is that stinky, strange-looking hat worth $100?

It will be September 11th. And here we are 11 years later. The most infamous day of our generation has a meaning to every American. Everyone was affected that day. Some obviously much more than others.
I think about our New York City Brothers and Sisters from the jobs. Some of the people that I know personally, absolutely amaze me/have amazed me as they picked themselves up from the dust and debris and carried on doing their jobs. They've taught me so much about personal fortitude and inner strength.
There's one guy I know and love. He was a Bronx truckie, a Brooklyn truckie, a Manhattan truckie. He's one of the few that wears a two star 9/11 medal. Lost so many personal friends, I honestly to this day have a hard time understanding how he was able to carry on.
Yeah, he got banged up pretty good and had to put his papers in. Aside from the hundreds of heroes who were lost, with all of their combined experience and knowledge, it amazes me how the FDNY in particular was able to rebuild itself in the aftermath of a loss of such magnitude.
This Brother though, he is so knowledgeable about the fire service; the FDNY losing him to premature retirement was yet another huge loss for the agency. He could have easily been a great Chief Officer.
Yet, with the personal losses this Brother endured, he not only carried on through the physical and emotional pain, he has still been able to contribute to the fire service in other ways; with his knowledge and desire to help others he has done that and more.
To say that I am in awe of this Brother would be an understatement.
I continually ask myself how this man does it. In many ways, he has been a mentor to me. He has been there for me when times have been difficult. Always a reassuring voice, always positive, always pointing out the things I should be grateful for. Reminding me not to dwell so much on personal failures, loss, and things that cannot be changed.
I thank God for a Brother like him. He has taught me so much, I cannot begin to say how I feel about him. About never being able to adequately express my gratitude for his friendship, his mentoring, his Brotherhood. I grew up without an older brother, and always wished I had one. God sent this man my way in the aftermath of 9/11, and I honestly feel like he became that brother I always wished I had.
In two days, the Remembrance Ceremonies will take place. It is repeatedly a heart wrenching day. I feel and will always remember the sacrifices our Brothers and Sisters made for the good of others; for the good of all of us.
Many people have forgotten. To much of the country, 9/11 was a television experience. The wars have been that way for most of us as well. It is our duty, as emergency service personnel to keep the flame of memory alive for our lifetimes.
You know, I never truly understood what WWII veterans felt about Pearl Harbor until the years slowly built up after 9/11. Now I do.
And for my Brother, I know enough to let him alone in the days leading up to 9/11, and the days afterward. For him, it is entirely personal. But I'll be thinking about him anyway, along with the heroes who left us that day. Thinking, remembering, and saying thank you once again.

The 2nd photo makes them look VEEERRYY unprofessional. No offense to anyone but really?

They should spell it Tear Six, because it really is reason to cry for the younger people affected by this. I mean this is what it's come to huh? All the sacrifices of those who came before us, and helped to build mediocre municipal jobs into the respected careers they became; gone in a piece of legislation?
Poof.
Decade upon decade of sacrifice, hard work, playing by the rule of law....all the ingredients mixed in to bring the job of fireman to the career of firefighter, the job of policeman to the career of law enforcement, the job of garbageman to the career in sanitation.
To the younger members on this site who a pursing a career in civil service, what do we say now? "Suuure it's still a great job, but chances are pretty good you're signing a lifetime contract here, so be prepared to do this until you drop dead while doing it?" Should we start including Estate Planning into Firefighter I or II?
You want to know why I think the issue of death and disability weren't even addressed apparently? Because they KNOW LODDs are going to skyrocket, on-the-job injuries are going to become epidemic as this affected generation are going to be great-grandfathers and still pushing lines into working fires, still carrying tons of materials every day on their backs, still going at it with gangsters to protect us all.
Maybe they think Apple is going to come out with an APP that will reverse the aging process in the meantime.
These jobs are primarily for younger workers. There will always be the need for senior men, and a seasoned officer corps, but with this new tier apparently EVERYBODY will be a senior man.
No, that's not a ceremonial fire truck coming down the street in the local parade, carrying the honorary 50 year members. That's your first due truck.
A special thanks to the NY newspaper that made it it's top priority to engage in a smear campaign against the pension system for many years. And the 15Billion dollar mayor. And the son GOV, who finished what the father GOV started.
The hell with the sons and daughters of the Empire State. And in so doing they have added one more nail in the coffin of the Empire. And that empire's name is These United States of America Inc.

What sad news this morning. Worcester, Mass. IAFF Local 1009. We all bear witness once again to them getting hit hard. And news of our Brother lost this morning from Mount Vernon. December 8, 2011. Suddenly another infamous date. While we all commiserate here on the site, waiting for news.....a name....mornings like this one always bring you back full circle to other similar mornings.....
Today feels like....The Father's Day Fire.
Black Sunday.
Manlius, New York.
It's hard to make sense out of these days. Why?
It reminds me that the career fire service in America is actually not all that huge; and how we are all entwined together with a culture created and passed down through generations of firemen.
I cannot help but to think of the outpouring of respect that will be shown for these Brothers. I cannot help but to think of the absolute devastation that has occurred to two separate families this December morning. The trying days...months...years now put before families who only last evening had holiday plans in the works. Christmas forever changed for a lot of people in an instant.
In 2002 I traveled to Colorado Springs to pay respects at the IAFF National Memorial, hosted by IAFF Local 5, Colorado Springs Firefighters. The day before the Remembrance, I had a rented Toyota Four Runner, and decided to drive to the top of Pikes Peak. The Service the next day would be right in front of this mountain, where the Memorial is located.
When I reached the top after a couple of hours drive, standing there in the parking lot of the lodge I recognized the President of Local 1009. "Hey Worcester" I called out.
"Hey, how's it going?" the President of 1009 replied. "You want a beer?"
And so we shared a brew at 14,000 feet and spoke quietly amoungst ourselves.
The irony was not lost on me that there were six Brothers from 1009 standing there.
And now two more names will be chiseled into the face of that black wall out in Colorado Springs. In the shadow of Pikes Peak, surrounded by beauty, yet carved from tragedy.
Once again, Worcester Brothers will make the solemn journey, and this time our Brothers from Mount Vernon will accompany them.
So Rest now...jobs well done, the Lord has called you home.

OK. Let me say first that I do agree with some of your points and glad mine invoked some more conversation. I like playing devils advocate once in a while.
With that said...Montrose yes it does have a ladder tower. It may or may not be minutes away. Peekskill has their own call volume to worry about along with the staffing issues for the way they operate to get their staffing for operation. In the city..not a problem...out of..not so easy. Add on to it the fact they run ALS and their resource management is very important to handle their own calls which is pretty high. Croton...little bit more of a hike...but again...Croton has their own calls to handle...and how fair is it to tax payers of other areas to be funding resources for not what mutual aid is intended to be...to assist when YOUR resources are stretched. Not to supplement your current system. I forget what the distance is..Barry's the one that can and probably will chime in what the ISO distance is for aerial devices but I'd spend some tax money collectively to get the ISO rating down to get taxpayers some savings on fire insurance premiums.
As far as a straight stick...I still don't get it. There are very minute pros and cons of a straight stick vs a platform. I could really care less what the resources around me are. I have come to appreciate the use of platforms over the past 10 years as a person who had really operated off of nothing but straight sticks. Its a very stable platform to perform ventilation off of and much more comfortable operating off of with master stream operations. So to me you go with what best fits what is best for your area and personnel. As far as Mohegan having 2 straight sticks...maybe someone from there can answer as to why they didn't do a mix in their district and do 1 straight...1 ladder tower or tower ladder. If you're really worried about the taxpayers why not ask why the southern sections of the town or Cortlandt don't have the same service and resources the northern part does and how looking at such and getting something similar wouldn't actually cost them as much money when their ISO rating drops.

Oftentimes we've had the pleasure of hearing directly from some of those people involved in an incident or photo we have been discussing come on here and enlighten everyone as to what was happening on the scene or behind the scenes when the image was captured, including the good, the bad and the ugly.
We're fortunate to hear "their side" because as we all know, unless we were there, that split-second frozen in time might not always be the whole story or even part of the story, and we have already made up our collective minds as to what it is we're seeing.

Exactly, some people should read this.

The Chief shouldn't be doing that. A probie nobody likes should be.
If Con Edison was on the scene confirming the hazard of electricity was eliminated, then it's putting out a simple fire. Period.
Operating on the roof... not that big of a deal in my opinion, we climb up there to wash the rigs, pack hose and fix antennas, right?
Settle down. Nobody knows all of the facts, right?
I hate how FFCC has become a place for people to post pictures of things they personally don't like because, often times, they've got a grudge against the person(s) or department(s) in the photo.
We're our own worst enemies...