PHIL78

I am glad this topic came up. It tells how some firefighters are NOT impressed at all with "selfies" of firefighters in action. Maybe those "Firefighter Selfie Fans" had no idea just how foolish other firefighters look at this.
 
I have some very good friends in New York, Connecticut, and Rhode Island, who are some of the most decorated firefighters in the northeast. I consider it a very special privilege to be a part of their friendship. They are the Best of the Best. Yet NOT ONE, has ever posed for a "selfie photo op" during their years. Just yesterday (6/1/2016) the FDNY had it's Medal Day where they honor those who went above and beyond. Once a year these members are rewarded and given praise for the work they've done. These members get their chance to get photos taken with their family members, the mayor, fire commissioner etc. There are a few web sites that have posted pictures of these individuals as well. But I highly doubt anyone can find any selfies posted anywhere of any one of these members in action.
 
On the contrary, there are many buffs out there who regularly take photos of firefighters in action. I know because I am one of them. Many times these buffs will take these photos and maybe post them on their own web site or even make up a copy for the firefighter in the picture. As "BIGRED1" also states above, very often a crew shot is taken after a job well done.
 
  It is the "OWN SELF IMAGE" that tends to turn off some seasoned firefighters who have been there and done that. You are expected to do a job, and it's not being a Hollywood Model.  You're in the wrong occupation if that's what you think is more important. Are you in it (career or volunteer) to help people or promote yourself.
 
 Personally, I have little use for any firefighters who use someone's misfortune to promote themselves. However, whether my vote counts or not probably really doesn't matter.  

FD7807 - I don't have to claim anything......your hero (I mean zero) Fire Chief was the stooge that stood before his personnel and went on a tirade encouraging vandalism and other types of obscene conduct against a Union member. 
 
Care to comment on why a Fire Chief would behave so irrationally or irresponsibly?
 
Is his behavior acceptable to you? Do you find this normal? 
 
Rather than rant about Unions and demonstrate your personal animus or jealousy for career that you could next have, try and build a case to defend the actions of this Chief and his cohorts.
 
This discussion will work far better if you actually stay on the issues that are tangible.
 
Save the Ben Franklin and taxpayer mantra for your next XXXL T-shirt printing or belly-bumping amongst your pals in the beer garden. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

I would like to think that this thread has been an education without opening a book.
 
Add in two other threads in which a serious discussion has taken place. The threads of:
  "Paid Firefighter lay offs contested by residents, FDNY/Garden City News"
  "Village of Port Chester Disbands Career Fire Dept".
 
There should be no doubt in any firefighters mind just what side of the fence they need to be on. You have been presented with a well written group of statements, many backed up with facts. I commend those who took the time to speak here to explain the rights and wrongs of volunteer and career firefighter relationships.
 
 This story is not only played out in Port Chester or Garden City, NY, but many other places across the country as well. People are following these stories whether on this site or other fire dept sites. I know many members in Connecticut, both career and volunteer certainly are.
 
  Perhaps this was a "wake up call" to some who felt we could just write those career firefighters off. We now see that way of thinking kind of back fired for a group of chiefs who now may have to explain their position. They now may be required to give facts on why they felt the need to cut those eight career firefighters. When I would think, most chiefs would totally disagree with that decision. As someone mentioned, how would eliminating these firefighters make it safer for those citizens and the firefighters as well. I hope they have a good answer for that.
 
 As a retired firefighter and a citizen of a small city about 100 miles from Port Chester, I have been directly involved in trying to make small, but significant changes within that city involving career and volunteer firefighters. After meeting with the then city manager about some serious issues that I saw going on within the departments last year. These issues also greatly involved the publics and firefighter safety as well.
 
 One example was an occupied house fire in which a fire house with eight career firefighters were ONLY 1.8 miles away. They were NEVER called by the volunteer commanding officer. Instead two other volunteer fire depts. were requested, one from as far away as eight miles. Those career firefighters each spent 16 weeks at a firefighter recruit school to learn their trade. Yet they were NEVER called. In fact, those career firefighters are actually closer than the first due volunteer company. All part of the same city.
 
  There was another very serious haz mat incident in a warehouse and those career firefighters, including 4 Haz Mat Techs, were never requested until another Haz Mat Team responding some 15 miles away actually requested them to respond. There has been other incidents as well.
 
  With no positive results from the city manager, OR those Volunteer Chiefs, I decided to go to a local newspaper about these issues. I have provided to that reporter dates, times and facts. Within the last two months, one volunteer dept has called that career dept twice. Including one call to where that building fire was less than a year earlier. "I guess they know somebody is watching".
 
  As I understand it, that newspaper reporter is still in the process of conducting interviews. In 2008, a civilian died less than two miles from that career firehouse. All while the commanding officer felt the need only for volunteer firefighters much farther away.
 
  So as we see, its not only Port Chester or Garden City where some volunteer chiefs are very willing to put the citizens as well as his own volunteer firefighters at risk. I hope things DO change without getting into the newspaper. It just won't look good if that story comes out. So stay tuned as these events happen as well.

    I have to say I am saddened by the content of this thread.  Both my parents died in 2014, and both spent time in an Atria in Westchester- they did not die there, but both were moved by EMS during their stays.
It might seems obvious, but the thread makes me want to point out:  These facilities DO NOT MANUFACTURE OLD PEOPLE. These pt's are going to get old and frail no matter where they live. I would rather have a safe, carpeted monitored building with AN ELEVATOR, rather than dozens of folks in dozens of private homes, UNmonitored, UNreliebly medicated, falling and being on the floor for hours before being noticed.
    I ma pretty sure there is no age range excluded by your EMT class. There is no guarantee of exciting calls. I BET if we issued guns to the facility staff and told them to shoot anyone that falls, so every call came in as a gunshot, there would be no problem covering, and no complaining about it (well, other than pt's and families).
   As per an article in the NY Times a few years back, nationwide EMS call volume is up 247% in last 30 years.  More since then I bet.
  I have NEVER seen an EKG tech complain that a patient that needed an EKG was not sick enough for them. Never seen a RESPIRATORY therapist  complain that the lungs were not wheezy enough for them to give a treatment. Never had a PHLEBOTOMIST say that they were wasting time on drawing blood on a particular pt. It is ONLY the EMERGENCY MEDICAL TECH who feels that they are only there to serve pt's they feel are worthy.
    I am sorry, but things don't stay the same. The job is changing. The pt population is changing. Safer cars with airbags = fewer sexy trauma calls. Meds = a HUGE decrease in V-fib arrests.   Those same meds = a larger elderly population that just want to grow old in safety and comfort. Be nice, be professional: your job is to provide that.
  Or as one of my favorite movie lines, from Ghostbusters goes, " I am sure a person with your skills and qualifications would have not trouble finding  work in either the food service or housekeeping in industries."
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Date: 4/24/16
Time: 1723hrs
Location: 127 Devonshire rd
District: Station 3 Co. District
Channel: 460.4625
Units: Eng 23,21,25,22 Lad 13, TL 11, 2302

Description: Working fire
 
Eng 23 and Lad 13 dispatched for residential alarm.
 
Units on scene requesting 10/75 assignment, can see smoke banking down inside the structure.
 
Eng 21,25,22,TL11,2302 and Empress added to the assignment.
 
Heavy smoke in basement/garage area trying to locate source.
 
Fire located in crawl space off the garage companies calling for the line.
 
Fire k/d checking for extension.
 
unsure of UC time.
 
 

Date: 4/24/16
Time: 1723hrs
Location: 127 Devonshire rd
District: Station 3 Co. District
Channel: 460.4625
Units: Eng 23,21,25,22 Lad 13, TL 11, 2302

Description: Working fire
 
Eng 23 and Lad 13 dispatched for residential alarm.
 
Units on scene requesting 10/75 assignment, can see smoke banking down inside the structure.
 
Eng 21,25,22,TL11,2302 and Empress added to the assignment.
 
Heavy smoke in basement/garage area trying to locate source.
 
Fire located in crawl space off the garage companies calling for the line.
 
Fire k/d checking for extension.
 
unsure of UC time.
 
 

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Not as simple as one may think to do it legally.  Attended a seminar in DC recently and they talked about the process to do it legally.  In Westchester it wouldn't be so simple due to all the airports and airspace and other obstacles.  It's all regulated by the FAA now. 

I don't think it's the expense. 

Does Pelham Manor have any interior-qualified members left? Maybe they took themselves off the run card?

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And whats with that chair?They fighting fire or delivering sheetrock?

And whats with that chair?They fighting fire or delivering sheetrock?

Barry - Will NRFD be using the former Engine 22 (2004 American LaFrance/RD Murray 1500/500) as the replacement for the current Spare Engine 17 (1998 Spartan/RD Murray 1500/500). And, if so, would NRFD just simply sell the 1998 Spartan/RD Murray off at auction?

11.26.81 551 Main St New Rochelle, second alarm

Rest in peace... God bless his family.

E25 is a 2008 Pierce Arrow.

Thank you yfd910.Be safe.

I was thinking the same thing. Some response. Only thing missing was an air drop.

How often do City trucks utilize the hard suction?

Date: 2-18-15
Time: 16:30hrs
Location: 39 Locust Hill Ave C/S Baldwin Place
District: Yonkers
Weather: 26 degrees, clear
Units:
Yonkers FD 1st Alarm: Engine 303, Engine 307, Engine 309, Engine 310, Engine 312, Engine 313, Squad 11
Ladder 72, Ladder 73, Ladder 74, Tower Ladder 75, Rescue 1, Battalion 2, Battalion 1, Car 2 (IC),
Car 6-Fire Investigator, Mask Service Unit, Rehab Trailer
2nd Alarm: Engine 313, Ladder 74
3rd Alarm: Engine 308, Engine 304, Tower Ladder 71
Empress EMS
Yonkers OEM
Yonkers PD

New Rochelle FD Engine 22, Ladder 12, Car 2309 (Relocate Yonkers FD Station 12 Fortfield Ave)
Greenville FD Squad 15 (Relocate Yonkers Station 13 Kimball Ave)
Eastchester FD Ladder 15 (Relocate Yonkers Station 13 Kimball Ave)

Description: Heavy fire from the upper floors of a 3 story 30x50 wood frame occupied multiple dwelling
Updates:

16:40hrs Battalion 2 transmitting 2nd alarm.

16:47hrs Battalion 2 reporting going to master streams
17:05hrs Car 2 reporting resuming interior operations
17:57hrs Car 2 3rd Alarm requested, Engine 304 requested to bring additional water supply into scene
18:16hrs Locust Hill Command reporting main body of fire knocked down all hands still working
18:32hrs Locust Hill Command reporting fire darkening down, partial collapse of building, structural integrity in question
20:29hrs Locust Hill Command reports fire has been knocked down and overhauled. Units beginning to pick up hose.

Notes:
Some first due units were committed to other assignments when this job was initially dispatched, therefore skewing normal unit assignment order.
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3rd alarm E308,304 & TL 71 to the scene. 304 to bring more water.

Just out of curiosity where do Depts. take their backup lines from? Ist Due Engine or 2nd Due?