xfirefighter484x

Ok guys, I think any other posts EXCLUDING discussion of the Vehicle Fire itself should come into a new thread discussing legalities of taking property into custody for evidentiary purposes. All other discussion not related to the actual video, the vehicle fire, or anything as such, will be deleted.

Love it!

Love it!

Love it!

Work in emergency services long enough and you will hear this repeatedly. The public always thinks they know better. Here is a clip from Southland:

I always love the commentary from lay-people/civilians... Everyone is always a critic, and has some 'genius' thing to put out there.

I think the term should be changed to uncommon sense. Seems more fitting for the times.

I always love the commentary from lay-people/civilians... Everyone is always a critic, and has some 'genius' thing to put out there.

Its unfortunate that time and money is being wasted on this and many other Fire and EMS reports. If you want change the Fire Service for the better do a study on how to encourage or force antiquated self centered control freak voting memberships that they need to do whats best for their communities and not themselves. Crap I will pay for that report.

Date: 3/14/2012
Time: 23:52
Location: 154 Rochdale Rd just West of Titus Road
Frequency: DC 911
Units Operating: Arlington 3211,13,16,46,52, C/Pok Eng 2, Town of Poughkeepsie PD
Weather Conditions: Clear
Description Of Incident: Working Garage Fire
Reporters: xfirefighter84x (O/S)
Writer: SPFC56-233
23:52 - Arlington Dispatched with 32-11,13,16 and 46 for a reported house fire.
23:53 - AFD 32-11,46 and 16 responding
23:54 - AFD 32-13 responding
23:55 - 32-16 on scene with a "working garage fire"
23:56 - AFD 32-52 added and responding
00:15 - AFD Command request AFD Station 5 on stand by, Building inspector to scene
City of Poughkeepsie Eng 2 on standby @ AFD HQ

Dutchess is just RIPE for consolidation! There are several townships with different departments amongst them....Imagine the quality of service, "power" (read; manpower, rescources, knowledge), and respect they could have. I truly feel it could be a win for the citizens, and a win for the members.

If only there were more people like you who saw these things for what they are, and "calls /em like he sees 'em"...

Pretty much what I was thinking. When does the initial impact for an auto/ped EVER happen where those airbags are located?
This would be like putting airbags behind a driver's head, so AFTER they smash their face into the steering wheel, you would not get that whiplash.
Pretty useless IMHO.

I wonder how many injuries those airbags will actually prevent? Yes it will prevent the person from hitting the windshield, but they would still suffer the trauma of the initial impact with the car. 2,000 pounds of metal hitting your legs at 50 miles an hour is going to hurt.

This was just a question that I have been wondering about for some time now. It seems that after 9/11 everyone is focusing on preparing for "the big one", as well they should but it just seems backwards to me when:
An ambulance corps has enough MCI equipment to treat 100+ patients, but can't get out the door for an elderly fall victim
A fire department has all of the latest and greatest HAZMAT and WMD gear, but needs to call massive amounts of mutual aid for a room and contents fire
A police department has plenty of tactical and active shooter training, but needs to call the state police or sheriff's office to handle a past burg or larceny

AS soon as this shooting came out in the news I was sure that the family involved would follow the " skell shot by police " handbook.
These guidelines include :
1. no matter what you thought about the victim, go to the hospital, wait until you see someone with a news camera and then flop on the floor like a fish crying like the victim was your best friend.
2. Make threats toward the police that you will get them for shooting your friend, etc...
3. call for a special prosecutor
4. get t- shirts made with the perps face on it and some catchy slogan like " rest in peace my dude, see you when i get there."
5. no matter how old the perp was, release his communion photo or the picture from his first day of 1st grade to the media and tell them how he was a good person and was ABOUT to get his life back together and go back to school etc... oh i almost forgot, and tell them that he was an aspiring rapper that was about to be signed
6. get a 40 oz. beer box, cut it in half, light candles , put them in the box, put half full 40 oz. beers on the sidewalk around the box for effect.
7. No matter how much of a criminal your family member was, deny it even in the face of overwhelming evidence.
8. when the grand jury returns a decision of No True Bill against the police officers and they are cleared of any wrong doing, repeat flopping on the floor like a fish, then hire some slick attorney that will tell the media that you knew from the begining that you couldn't get a fair and impartial investigation.
9. file a lawsuit against the officers and the city of newburgh.
If I missed any please feel free to add to this list.
This list is obviously an attempt to make a little light of my frustration with the situation. I'm frustrated wih the fact that everything cops do is wrong to society, WE CAN'T WIN. I'm tired of nobody standing up to these families and saying " It was your family membes fault that this happened not the cops, end of story." God Bless my brothers from the Newburgh P.D. They did what they had to do the other night in the face of a deadly threat. The fault for this shooting lies completely with the perp, he shouldn't have committed a crime in the first place, second if he had a warrant ( that he obviously knew about because he ran) then he should have turned himself in. Third, if a team of cops approach you, don't run and fourth, when you are cornered by the cops, don't produce a knife and charge at them. Those are 4 ways this perp could have saved his own life but instead of looking at it rationally, his family would rather blame the cops. I watched that side show that was supposed to be a press conference. Having a public press conference was a mistake, if the chief wanted to give info to the media then you do that, not invite all of liberty street. If he wanted to meet with the family then he should have done it privatly not in a public forum.
Sorry for the long post guys, some things just get to me.

Thanks for sharing these pictures Jet!! Always nice to see the other side!

Chelsea firefighters extricated 1 when car lost control on a turn and slamed into some trees and one fell on top of the car nearly killing the occupant. The occupant suffered life threatening injuries and was later transported to Westchester Medical Center.
News story - Car flattened in crash

Date: March 6, 2012
Time: 22:14
Location: Baxtertown Rd and Baxtertown Rd Ext
Frequency: 453.900, 453.800, 453.925
Units Operating: Chelsea 35-1, 35-2, 35-11, 35-12, 35-52, Mobile Life, town of Fishkill Police, NY State Police
Weather Conditions: Dark, 45
Description Of Incident:Car vs tree / tree on top of car
Reporters:
Writer: JETPHOTO
22:14 Chelsea, Mobile Life dispatched to a car into a tree with entrapment, victim consious
22:17 Chelsea 35-2, 35-52 responding
22:19 Chelsea 35-11. 35-12 responding
22:20 Chelsea 35-2, 35-52 on the scene with NY State Police. Extrication begining
22:21 Mobile Life on the scene
22:22 Chelsea 35-11. 35-12
22:35 Victim extricated
Mobile Life transported 1 to St Francis Hosp
* Victim later transferred to Westchester Medical Center for life threatening injuries
News Story - Car flattened in crash
Incident Photos

Friends don't let friends post/text tired, drunk or angry...

I usually agree with you..but not on this one. I'd rather see this and this was done by a program already established..then them sitting doing nothing but becoming even better criminals. If one gets it...then its worth it. Cost a lot more to house them then what BOCES already has set up.

And, that POS scumbag that did it, shot his wife... shot himself in the chest... THEN had a run in with the cops... shot Falcone... then offed himself...

Time exposure photo taken by New City Fire Chief Ken Flynn of the fire as viewed from Iona Island.

I think you are right, some people SHOULD get a grip. I merely stated facts, you sir, read too far into it.

Date:2/19/2012
Time:12:48
Location: IAO 115 Hibernia Rd.
Frequency: 453.900 (911 Dispatch) 453.925 (911 Response) 453.800 (Command) 453.050 (F/G 5/6) 453.350 (PV 56)
Units Operating: Pleasant Valley 56-42,55,63,71,72 - Mobile Life Medic 261 + 258 - TransCare Medic 703 + Fly Car 804 - NDP Medic 76, Millbrook 49-72, East Clinton 38-71 on stand-by in quarters, DCSO
Weather Conditions: Cold
Description Of Incident:1 Car into the woods + Rollover + Fuel Leak, Multiple Pts Unconscious. 5 Patients Total.
Reporters:
Writer:
00:47 - Report of female unconscious hanging out of sun roof
00:48 - Pleasant Valley and Mobile Life Dispatched for Priority 1 Auto Accident - Car into the woods with unconscious patient
00:51 - Mobile Life Medic 261 Responding from Poughkeepsie
00:55 - PV Command reports 5 patients
00:57 - TransCare Medic 703 responding from Poughkeepsie
00:59 - TransCare Fly Car 804 Responding from Poughkeepsie
01:03 - PV Command reports all victims out of vehicle
01:05 - East Clinton 38-71 Placed on Stand-by
01:05 - PV requests a Fireground. Firegrounds 5/6 assigned.
01:15 - PV Command request 911 notify Saint Francis of 5 ALS Patients; East Clinton 38-71 On Stand By
01:19 - Mobile Life Medic 261 enroute Saint Francis ALS
01:22 - NDP Medic 76 on scene
01:23 - TransCare enroute to Saint Francis ALS
01:27 - 56-72 enroute to Saint Francis ALS
01:30 - Millbrook enroute to Saint Francis BLS to meet Mobile Life Medic 258 enroute