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 Kingston,NY (Ulster County) has placed an order with New England Fire Equipment and Apparatus for a 2016 Smeal/LTC 105' Tractor Drawn Aerial. 

 
Absolutely not true.  They may have far more latitude than with tax dollars but they are accountable to the taxpayer on their expenditures.
 

I buy/sell/trade all kinds of man cave things.  Message me if interested. 

Police vehicles are not required to have DMV plates in NY, however, many municipal agencies have chosen to get official plates for their vehicles. Fire District vehicles in NY do not have to have DMV plates either, but many fire districts chose to have put them on their vehicles, especially the Chief's vehicles.

I for one will not watch or attend a single football game this year!
 
I for one will not watch or attend a single football game this year!
 

I already gave up watching the NFL. They employ too many felons.

I already gave up watching the NFL. They employ too many felons.

I already gave up watching the NFL. They employ too many felons.

As  posted on this site a million times about this topic this is an abuse of privilege!!!  I was up in the  Lake George area  last week and a down south chiefs truck blew by me on the Northway.  The best now is the trucks with the ghost writing on them!!! 

Speaking as a taxpayer, we should all want the money re-collected. These grant programs use federal dollars and when they go unused they should return to the collecting body to offset other needs. Letting this one city slide helps its taxpayers at our expense. The downside is that the citizens and FD are likely going to suffer due to poor financial management in city administration.

Maybe some of us that live in the area and have friends in Arlington FD have a better picture as to what's actually going on there. If the chief as well as the chauffer's have no issues, why then the commissioners? Who better then them knows what's safe or not.  Remember, these people are in the public safety business. Last I knew commissioners weren't driving the apparatus. People are burning flags across the country and when our brothers answer their final call and there coffins are draped with them this flag ban stings even more. This is arbitrary and capricious. If the size of the flags were an issue then how about a smaller flag rather than an all out ban?

We have small flags on the back of our engines. They are small enough that they do not interfere with any operation of the apparatus (hose deployment, lights, etc.). I agree with the comments above that maybe some people are getting a little carried away with the size of flags being used.

And I don't agree with outright banning them altogether.

We have small flags on the back of our engines. They are small enough that they do not interfere with any operation of the apparatus (hose deployment, lights, etc.). I agree with the comments above that maybe some people are getting a little carried away with the size of flags being used.

And I don't agree with outright banning them altogether.

We have small flags on the back of our engines. They are small enough that they do not interfere with any operation of the apparatus (hose deployment, lights, etc.). I agree with the comments above that maybe some people are getting a little carried away with the size of flags being used.

And I don't agree with outright banning them altogether.

We have small flags on the back of our engines. They are small enough that they do not interfere with any operation of the apparatus (hose deployment, lights, etc.). I agree with the comments above that maybe some people are getting a little carried away with the size of flags being used.

I actually prefer smaller flags that are on the right bumper indicator posts.  Large flags off the rear or the rig are generally in the way, and like Barry said, tend to get filthy.
 

And I don't agree with outright banning them altogether.

We have small flags on the back of our engines. They are small enough that they do not interfere with any operation of the apparatus (hose deployment, lights, etc.). I agree with the comments above that maybe some people are getting a little carried away with the size of flags being used.

 
This also shows the proper times for flying the flag at half staff.  Something that is being done too often for inappropriate reasons.

I have read on a number of sites the backlash, almost all based on the board being unpatriotic or trying to be PC.
 
Beyond, what the board reported as being a safety issue, no one knows what the motivation is. 
 
But, I have witnessed, flags getting larger and larger on the back of rigs, to the point that we are disrespectful of the flag.
 
On engines, I have witnessed hose being laid over a flag that's so large that without wind or driving it hung below the level of the bed.
 
On ladders, I have witnessed grease and tattered ends on the flag where it whips against the turntable gear. I have also seen where it rubs on ground ladders as they are moved in and out of the ladder tunnel.
 
On all rigs, I have seen filthy flags, because the dirt that swirls around the rear of the rigs.
 
On the safety side, I have seen them hiding flashing safety lights, turn signals and break lights. Saw one get burned by high intensity flood lights and have seen firefighters grabbing the flag to help them climb the rig.
 
This is not patriotic, nor is it how the flag should be respected! I am not saying they should be removed, but consider how we are displaying them.

Yes it has , I have shots of it coming in the show last night

Water fights are the norm for wet downs in Orange County.