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Finally, some PR. I think the signage is MUCH needed to educate the public. I'd rather see these then those "Taste NY" signs.
 
http://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-announces-campaign-raise-awareness-move-over-law

 
Sounds like a case of robbing Peter to pay Paul.
 

 
Sounds like a case of robbing Peter to pay Paul.
 

 
 
I kinda like it, looks ready for business. Wonder how much it costs ?

its loud near an airport ? what a surprise.
 
lets not forget the people that move into a house or apartment next to a firehouse then want the firehorn shut off, and no sirens when leaving the bay going to a call.

 
 
Unfortunately for her and her neighbors, even in this day and age, the siren serves as a very important redundancy, which is mentioned. 
 
 

 
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!  I don't know how many of these calls I've taken over the years, but it drives the point home!
 
 
It's the same thing.  "Let me move to this quiet neighborhood with the small fire department nearby."
 
The point of the siren for a volunteer agency is the redundancy of notifying personnel that an alarm has been charged.  That department has been assigned to an incident in their district or has been summoned as mutual aid to one of their neighboring districts.  Someone needs help, and this in one way to get the volunteers to get up and to the fire house.  It's funny how private citizens just either forget or are ignorant to the way it used to be.  There used to be no text messages, pagers, or electronic devices to wake you up in the middle of the night for a call.  The good old siren did the work for years.  Before that, people had to run down the street screaming "FIRE!" at the top of their lungs!  Yes, technology has done wonders in communicating to us that there is an emergency.  But, the downside to technology is the simple fact that it can fail.  Some hilly districts have dead spots for cell phones and/or pagers.  Some districts cannot afford pagers.  Some districts have almost no cell service.  So, what is the backup?  the good old siren.
 
I would also like to add that the siren is good indicator to motorists in busy downtown areas to prepare them for the looming fire apparatus response.

I'm sure if, God forbid, their house were on fire, I'd bet they'd want to make sure that all the first responders would hear the siren(s).  

its loud near an airport ? what a surprise.
 
lets not forget the people that move into a house or apartment next to a firehouse then want the firehorn shut off, and no sirens when leaving the bay going to a call.

I like how the women are complaining that they were not notified about the siren when they moved into the development. First of all, isn't the area and what's around the property something you look at when you go look at and/or research a property for sale. Second of all, didn't anyone go outside, see the pole (especially the lady across the street), and go "Hmmm, I wonder what that telephone pole with horns atop it is?" and then ask?" And who's responsibility is it to notify new people moving in of this siren? I also like how the one lady attributes her stroke to the siren. How does a noise cause you to have a brain bleed or a clot make it to your brain. Personally, I think the FD was right in offering to move the siren but having the neighbors pay for the move. I'm sure the FD had permission from whatever municipalities when they put up the siren and whatever other permits and permissions they needed, and now these women have come in and decided to live right next to the siren and complain about it. It's like someone who moves next to an airport and then complains about the noise from the planes.

 
Heaven forbid the politicians fix whats broken first

 
 
Unfortunately for her and her neighbors, even in this day and age, the siren serves as a very important redundancy, which is mentioned. 
 
 

 
 
Unfortunately for her and her neighbors, even in this day and age, the siren serves as a very important redundancy, which is mentioned. 
 
 

it's the same old story...the politicians run out of money and the taxpayer pays...

Here's a short article published in the Boston Globe today. It's basically what's been already said in articles above. Yet still NO correlation in my eyes between two different brands of SCBA's reducing muscular injuries and cancer rates.  They are talking apples and oranges.
 
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/10/28/boston-firefighters-get-million-worth-new-equipment/IwAceK00jVUfhxzu0dNGWN/story.html?event=event25

what a shame. my thoughts and prayers go out to his family.
 
R.I.P.

They're pretty busy  out there u tube has some clips of them at work

About a month ago, Detroit was being pounded by heavy rains. I put them on Broadcastify to listen in. They were running trees down, wires down and cars stuck in the flooding underpasses. I looked on the Internet for Detroit Fire to get an idea of what they run. What I found is astounding. Detroit is the arson capital of the world! It's almost like "The Bronx is Burning" back in the '70's & 80's. In a nutshell they have about 5,000 Working Fires or greater each year (that's about 13 a day). That's more than FDNY!! I couldn't believe it. Granted many of their fires are already burned buildings, but I've been listening the last month and they get their share of occupied structure fires & commercial fires. I am not exaggerating when I say that if turn on Broadcastify and listen in, there is either a Working Fire in progress, just ending, or one being dispatched. It's continuous. If this interests you, then read on.
 
The city has 28 Engines, 13 Ladders, 6 Squads, and 8 Battalion Chiefs. Within the city limits the cities of Hamtramck & Highland Park reside. These are two very small cities, both surrounded by Detroit and each is only about 2 square miles. Each city runs an engine and a ladder. They work in conjunction with Detroit and are even dispatched by Detroit. So adding in those two cities, Detroit is covered by 30 Engines, 15 Ladders, 6 Squads & 8 Battalions. I have NO idea how they have so many fires with such a relatively small department. In addition to the structure fires they have daily car fires, dumpster fires and also run first responder on medical calls. I am not sure what their mutual aid agreement is with surrounding cities. The firefighters in Detroit must go to work and expect to be working their whole shift on a daily basis. I'm just guessing but I assume they must rotate people from the quieter companies to the busier companies to keep them fresh. It sounds like everyday would be the equivalent of playing a football game. Again, only a guess, but the average Detroit firefighter probably lasts 20 years and then is completely broken-down and has to retire.
 
I like what they have for radio communications. They have fire dispatch on one frequency and then 8 fireground channels. They assign them by which chief is assigned first due to the box. If Battalion 4 is assigned, they assign Fireground 4. If there is another fire in Battalion 4's area, they just assign a fireground channel to whichever chief is coming in. "Companies responding to Main & Elm switch to Fireground 8 for Battalion 8."  In just a month I've heard numerous Working Fires going on at the same time.
 
There response, from what I can figure out is as follows:
Box Alarm 3 Engines, 1 Ladder, 1 Squad, 1 Battalion
Commercial Box Alarm: 4 Engines, 2 Ladders, 2 Squads, 2 Battalions
2nd Alarm: 3 Engines, 1 Ladder, 1 Squad, 1 Battalion (If it came is as a Box Alarm and they go to a 2nd it sounds like they round out the Commercial Box assignment along with the 2nd Alarm assignment.)
 
Their manning appears to be 4 on an Engine, Ladder, and Squad; however, all those units will drop to 3. So on any given shift Squad 1 may have 4 and Squad 2 may have 3. When they sign on location they'll declared their PAR. "Engine 9 on location, PAR 4." Here's what I don't understand, about 50 percent of the time a unit will sign off and say PAR 3 plus 1 or PAR 2 plus 1 or it may just be PAR 3 or PAR 4. So I don't think it's the number of firefighters plus the officer. All I can think of is that it must be Probies on the rig, which means about 20% of the department must be probies. The whole thing is just mind-boggling and I really can't wrap my brain around it. At busy times they must have 3 or 4 Workers at a time!
 
I'm sure many have heard about Devil's Night in Detroit (Oct. 30th). At one point they were averaging 80 structure fires on that night. I believe last year it was cut down to about 40. Well, Devil's Night is fast approaching and I will be sure to listen in. God Bless the Detroit firefighters and stay safe!

There you have it; democracy in action.  Perhaps a much scaled down version can be presented to the public down the road.

Does the G1 still have that stupid bicycle bell for a low air alarm? I'd much rather have the Scott Vibra Alert....you can feel and hear that clearly.
 
And I too don't see how one brand vs. the others causes neck and back injuries. In that way they are essentially the same. That's ridiculous.

As I have friends in the NFD, I had heard that they adopted a stray dog that they found tied to a fire hydrant. 
NFD previously had another dog, Barney, who passed away a couple of years ago. Barney could always be found in the front seat of the rig.
I commend the men of NFD for taking this dog in and giving him the life he deserves! Nice job guys!
 
http://www.pupjournal.com/these-firefighters-didnt-care-one-lick-about-pit-bull-myths-when-they-adopted-this-stray-dog/

Now if the bad guys will conform to the new standard,problem solved..........

While I have no problem with setting standards for jobs, it should be noted that Assistant Chief Kim Royster spent the majority of her career in 1 Police Plaza, and I mean that literarily.
She was a cop assigned to patrol for only a short time and was assigned to 1 Police Plaza. After making boss, she was reassigned to 1PP, and with each subsequent advance, she stayed there, or worked in some other 1PP outpost such as the old academy.
I am not saying I have all the answers, I do not.
But, I would like to say it is nice to hear such "experienced" street cops tell everyone else how it should be done.

sharp looking, as was their former patch

Here you go Seth, for all to know it was redesigned around Feburary.