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I just took a ride by the Yorktown Friendly's and it's dark, no sign on the doors or anything though. I would've taken a picture but there are a bunch of people hanging around the ice cream window, and I can't figure out if its a odd memorial, employees that didn't get the memo, or the zombie apocalypse has begun and the walking dead like fribbles and very slow service.

I don't know about the Coast Guard but as for the grant, why should Yonkers or New Rochelle (or anywhere else in the state or country) subsidize new apparatus for Tarrytown? Sure, the Tarrytown taxpayers will benefit but why are they more worthy than Cobleskill or Tappan?

All the money comes from us, the taxpayers. It's been said here often, there ain't no such thing as "free"!

Maybe because the residents of all of these muncipalities utliize the bridge that the Tarrytown apparatus would be protecting? Because the bridge is vital to the entire region which would make it a worthy investment? Wouldn't the economic strength of cities like Yonkers and New Ro benefit from businesses in those cities abilty to attract workers from the other side of the bridge? Or the ability to move their products over the bridge? This is a big picture argument. Tarrytown is (partly) responsible for the protection an important piece of the whole area's critical infrastructure. Why shouldn't they get the tools they need to get the job done?

Even if they are a few inches higher, they are patrol vehicles and will be used for other purposes, not just traffic enforcement. The NYSP is always obtaining new vehicles and these will just be a little higher.

Are these unmarked Tahoe's actually made higher or are they the normal police package SUV's that just look higher than the usual SP Tahoe's that are pursuit rated with the lower suspension?

Desantis makes some velcro/belt clip phone pouches. The only issue is an Iphone 5 with an otterbox case is too big for their iphone case, but it fit my 3gs fine, and I guess a 4s shouldn't be a problem.

http://www.desantisholster.com/store/SEARCH-BY-HOLSTER-OR-ACCESSORY/CELL-PHONE-HOLSTERS

Are police department issued guns only going to be excluded from the ban, or is every gun a police officer own going to be excluded. I have no problem what-so-ever if department issued guns are exempt; but if a police officer has lets say two department issued guns, and 5 other privately owned guns are those exempt as well? Again this is not to start a pissing match or have people jump down my throat, it is my serious opinion and a serious question. Why should a privately owned gun that is used for hunting or target practice be exempt just because it's owned by a police officer and has nothing to do with his/her job.

It is a good question. Two things. One, the other exemptions for weapons offenses in the penal law address classes of individuals, police officers, peace officers, military, manufacturers, dealers, people possessing weapons on theie way to turn them in, etc. The status of individual weapons aren't addressed. Second, and more importantly I feel, is that departments don't always or can't issue weapons to their officers. I'm not sure if this is still the case, but when I joined the NYPD in the 90's, I had to "purchase" my own duty gun. I say "purchase" because we were told that the PBA picked up the tab for the gun, but we had to pay for the night sights(which still seems strange, but anyway). I had to privately purchase any backup/off-duty firearms on my own.

I'm curious to your reasoning for prohibiting privately owned firearms by police officers. Isn't the whole (stated) aim of these recent gun control measures to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and the mentally/emotionally unstable? As a police officer, I can't keep my job if I'm either of those, which would make me a private citizen again, which would then prohibit me like anyone else. Not only that, and maybe I shouldn't use logic here when talking about politicans, but isn't another aim of this to help law enforcement? Why wouldn't we as a society want police to be weapons-proficient, which would lead to non-duty ownership of firearms by police officers? The police in Mumbai were fighting terrorists during the hotel attack a few years with WWI era rifles they had never trained on before, and some officers had never had any firearms training, and were unarmed as they engaged the terrorists, do we really want anything like that here?

There is no LEO Exception in this piece of crap law. The next cop who fires more than 7 rounds will find himself on the end of the next wanna be johnny Cochrans fishing line...

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-passes-1st-gun-control-bill-newtown-school-massacre-article-1.1240644#ixzz2IFRQHnD6

"The bill moved so fast, some mistakes were made and will have to be corrected in separate legislation in the weeks ahead, lawmakers acknowledge. One problem: Police agencies were not exempted from the restrictions on bullets."

Whoops. If the new sections of the penal law weren't included in the exemptions section of PL265.20 (which I can't seem to find anywhere that they were), this would mean that not only the police are not exempt, but also peace officers, and the military, both state National Guard and federal regular service members. Will the governor send the state police (with their now illegal ten round Glock 37 magazines, unless they download three rounds) over to West Point, Camp Smith, Fort Drum, etc. to collect all non-compliant items from the military?

Simple solution. Westchester County PD.

Nassau County PD just closed half of their precincts. It's not that simple.

On the flip side, you can go from 1 patrol car to 3 patrol cars depending on what criminal activity is going on in your neighborhood. In this case, you pay less, but get more.

In my daily commute, I see more County PD cars then I see local PD cars. They are everywhere. And NYSP has also seemingly beefed up their coverage of the Taconic. Both are extremly proactive, because they have the staff, resources, and flexibilty to do so. The presence of these agencies and the advanced level of serivce they provide with 100% dedication and professionalism to the community should be taken full advantage of.

If your commute was mainly on local roads (or outside of Cortlandt or Ossining, or the airport) then OK. Otherwise, the County PD and the Troopers patrol the highways, of course you'll see more of them. I live in northern Westchester now and around home I can't swing a dead cat without hitting a local patrol car, but on my commute to work the county and state are all over the place. And as to the beefed up SP coverage on the Taconic, they just graduated their first academy class in three years, and those rookies need to be field trained.

Good for the County and State and the flexibilty they have to be extremely proactive. Maybe they have enough flexibility to help us locals with the "routine" calls like leaf blowers, flooded basements, school crossings, and the like that our residents expect us to handle. Not complaining at all, because in this instance it's apples and oranges....tough to compare law enforcement agencies with (at times) very different missions.

As a local police officer, I also kinda resent the insinuation that my department's limited resources are anything less than an "advanced level of serivce...with 100% dedication and professionalism to the community" just because we have less cars and cops on the road. We're all doing our best as we "do more with less".

PS, I'm not picking on you at all Seth, and I have great professional and personal relationships with many troopers and county cops. Seeing the issue from different perspectives - I've worked on the biggest job in the area, I'm currently working on a rather small job, and with relatives on LI PD's, my feeling is that the issue is a lot more complicated than just rolling everyone into one Westchester County PD.

How many of the 54 deaths were "self-initiated"? When I worked in Transit I'd have to say off the top of my head that 80% (edit: at the very least) of the "man unders" I responded to were suicides or attempts, with pretty much the rest being accidents. I also recall reading a recent story from Long Island of a male who was struck by a train, survived, released from the hospital, only to jump in front of another train the following day and kill himself. Perhaps some would be discouraged, but all the barriers in the world would only delay the inevitable for most of these folks.

The way my law instructor in the academy described a situation like this: Under the NYS Penal Law an officer shooting someone who is using a car as a weapon will be justified, however you have violated the NYPD's Patrol Guide. The attitude of the city is you can move out of the way. That and it is too crowded to now have a moving car with a dead driver. The result: you will not be criminally convicted, but the City of New York will most likely not imdennify the officer, and he will most likely be fired.

Unless someone in the car is using some other form of DPF besides the vehicle against the MOS or a third party. Which may have occurred here, we don't know yet. If not, as it's been stated, the officer may be in violation of the Patrol Guide and may not be indemnified and could be fired, but couldn't be criminally charged because he would be justified under PL article 35 and case law (Tennessee v. Garner).

NYC does not recognize a vehicle as a weapon, just ask the cops in the Bell case.

The NYPD doesn't recognize the vehicle alone being used against an MOS as DPF as per department policy in the Patrol Guide, I'm well aware of that, I kinda remember that test in the academy. My issue was with the media stating that she was unarmed. This case (so far), the Bell case, and even the Pleasantville case all appear to be "clean" uses of DPF, within the PL, case law, and even job policy.

NYS PL 10.13

13. "Dangerous instrument" means any instrument, article or substance,

including a "vehicle" as that term is defined in this section, which,

under the circumstances in which it is used, attempted to be used or

threatened to be used, is readily capable of causing death or other

serious physical injury.

This Penal Law goes for the whole state....even NYC, contrary to the T/S operator from the 19th a few years ago (on unrelated nonsense) that told us Westchester bumpkins me (ex-transit) and my two colleagues (ex 19 and 26 pct's) that the "New York City Penal Code is totally different than what you guys have upstate".

Wouldn't exactly call her unarmed. I've seen lots of damage and people killed with a stolen car

She was armed...with the vehicle, dangerous instrument as per the NYS penal law. Some in the press have left out that she was in a stolen car that was reported as carjacked, and also she apparently had priors for kidnapping and attempted murder. Not a babe in the woods here it seems.

Have any media outlets posted the deceased's communion photo yet?

The antennas are very long, and we have been told not to bend them, it will break it.

I give the antennas two weeks.

With the new portables the dispatcher will be able to immediately see who is transmiting. As far as I know, right now there will be no change to the way the different agencies interact.

Sadly yes, with the new radios, it will be hard for members to make unauthorized radio transmissions such portable check by the numbers(inspections is in the area), chewbacca noises, and other funny comments.

When I left in '02, I had a portable assigned to me. It wasn't automatic but if they wanted to find out if I had transmitted something, they could.

Different agencies? What about different bureaus of the same agency? I can't tell you how many times I'd be fixed on a plat or by the booth minding my own business and half a precinct would come running up to me looking for the "unconfirmed 10-13 in transit" that came over the street radios. And of course, we'd get it 10-15 minutes later from our central.

The best "unauthorized transmission" I heard was "District XX portable, central...Can you raise the ICO?, I believe he just left the command" So much for silly codewords.

One thing that the usually under-informed Journal News omits from the article is Indian Point's emphasis on fire prevention. This is accomplished through housekeeping, chemical controls, proper storage of combustibles, and standing fire watches during any hot work, such as cutting and grinding. Most of the critical areas are covered by either an automated deluge system (sprinklers? HAH!) or a CO2 system. The Fire Brigade is also very effective. I'm sure the Journal News is hoping that its readers will draw the conclusion that Indian Point is defenseless against fire.

Much like the NY Times' motto of "All the news that's fit to print", the JN really should adopt "Usually under-informed" as their tagline.

Hopefully it works, our radio network is horrible. We are still using the old Motorola Sabers, and it is getting harder and harder to get batteries and repairs done on them. A lot of work to the radio network was done just prior to the Republican National Convention in 2004. That was a complete failure.

Still with the sabers? Jeeze. Our guys up here in Westchester get bent over a little static, and I have to remind myself that in Transit I had solo posts where most of my stations had radio malfunctions. Not to toot my own horn, but in the summer of '01 me and two of our RMP guys were getting an award at a Compstat meeting for making a collar on a street caper that ended up in transit. The RMP guys (who had the city radio in the car but were on the other side of the command) heard a heavy precinct job had the presence of mind to relay it over the Transit radio, just as the perp literally walked right by me at the booth. I remember Chief Ansbro talking to the three of us on the side and saying "boys, we'll all be long gone before they ever sort out this radio mess".....how unfortunately true.

Are you saying what this woman did would not be permissible in New York? What are the laws on New York that govern this?

Article 35? Defense of justification? She would have a duty to retreat unless she was in her own dwelling (check) and wasn't the initial aggressor (and check). Looks like on the surface, a clean shoot. Thankfully the only (human) party harmed was the bad guy.

Edit: I missed the part about the dog.

Simple solution: Enforce the West Indian Day parade like all the others. How many shootings did we have at the St Patrick's Day parade last year? Puerto Rican Day? (with the exception of that day ten years or so ago) Dominican Day? Israeli Day? Columbus Day? Pulaski Day? Steuben Day? Gay Pride Day? etc., etc.....It's an annual occurrence that the WI day parade is for all intents and purposes a zone of politically permitted anarchy. It's not racism. It's the lawlessness and violence that everyone's sick of.

The move to force first responders to live in NYC is just a shallow way for race-card playing politicians to "never let a crisis go to waste".

RIP PO Figoski

This is fine, but much like when the NYC Police Pension Fund bailed out the city in the 70's (?) we should get a payment in return much like the variable supplement fund that city uniformed retirees get annually. I've been out of the city for ten years, but I believe it's a 12.5K Christmas gift service retirees get every year.

Of course mayor bloomturd has called it a "Christmas bonus" and has tried to take it away....smoke and mirrors for the media to try to turn "them"against "us" once again.

Maybe I'm missing something, but what day is it?

Along with Vegas, Phoenix, Rochester, Seattle or Portland, I don't recall which...maybe even both, and there were probably more. A lot of departments were in NYC (mainly at John Jay, IIRC) back when you couldn't give law enforcement jobs away, before the economy nosedived and we civil servants suddenly became such a greedy, overpaid drain on everyone.

If I remember correctly, a few years back a Scarsdale PO was injured LOD and they didn't cover him under 207c, so it's not just DEP PD.

It should be emphasized that equipment swapover is a huge issue. Things like lightbars, cages, MDT mounts, etc won't fit the new Ford PI, and that it would cost a lot more to outfit new vehicles.

I've actually heard the opposite, that the new Fords are backwards compatible, at least interior equipment-wise, with the CVPI. Of course, even if they aren't, that's still not going to keep some agencies from trying to cram the old stuff into the new cars.

You can't just do away with a town PD and have a village cover it because the village has no authority outside its borders. Sure, special legislation could be passed but it is cleaner and simpler for the larger to absorb several smaller than the reverse.

If you're in the air over today's bank robbery in a certain small affluent village maybe you could broadcast this in a loop over a loudspeaker. They seem to think differently.

It makes sense for us working folk, but consider some points: Do the cities get included? With the exception of Rye and Peekskill, the cities have their own civil service commissions that hired and govern a couple hundred cops. Logistically and legislatively that would seem to complicate matters. For instance, Nassau County's cities have their own PD's.

Also, would the more affluent areas be able to opt out? Studies have been done and it has been offered that my town absorb a smaller affluent village, but it's been so far rejected because of the smaller village's "community identity" and "name recognition". At 3am when some a-hole is breaking into your house, does it really matter what it says on the side of the patrol car? But I digress.

It's a good idea in concept, but seeing how things work in this county I would be surprised to see a single county PD become a reality. At least until we're all long retired anyway.

Actually the "Space Case" is the piece of cribbing with angle iron attached and airbag bungie corded to it used in the situation of a person trapped between a train and the platform. Pretty easy to make and if you contact your railroad you could probably figure out a place to do the training with a training manakin. FDNY units get this training at the Rock where there is a building with 2 subway cars and a subway station. Units practice using the airbags and/or bottle jack to lift a train. Very good training.

Actually actually, :-) when I was a transit cop, a person vs. train was either the self explanatory "man under" or a "space case" where the aided was trapped between the plat and the train. And as far as the FD/PD inter-service rivalries go, the handful of man unders and space cases that occurred on my post, FDNY, PD, and ESU always worked well together handling the job. In the PD we never called the tool a "space case", perhaps because that's what we called the job itself, we just referred to it as the air bag.

And now that I'm thinking about it, when I got out of the academy, I recall being told not to get confused as the city PD sometimes referred to EDP's as "space cases"...All a matter of perspective I guess.