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So many wrong points here it is almost farsical.
Total non-story. Russians were operating in international waters and were intercepted by South Korean Air Force prior to an USS Reagan F/A-18C/Ds. Whipped into controversy by Fox News but totally par for the course.
Considering China is a mostly brown navy on the best of days again, there is no challenge to American power in the South China Sea unless you count unmarked obsticles which have sunk more navy ships in recent memory then any boomer, AShM or diesel-electric submarine since the Falklands.
You mean the deal to prevent the spread of nuclear weapons in the Middle East and replace the nuclear weapons material with power generating material? Sounds like a lot of peace to me. That $100 billion will do wonders modernizing their infrustructrue and spreading American goodwill in the region.
Japan or Guam maybe but only Russia can reach US mainland from their mainland. Good thing both Japan and S. Korea have AEGIS based missle defence supplied by the US military.
See US invasion and destabilization of Iraq and subsequent unrest, destabilization in Syria courtesy of G.W. Bush.
"Inscription on the Statue of Liberty"
Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses, yearning to breath free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,
Send these, the homeless, tempest tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.
-Emma Lazarus
See Iraq comments from above.
Invited by the Syrian Government and while bombing FSA positions, has more to lose from extremism and terrorism given its proximity to Syria and large muslim regions and population.
Hezbollah hasen't attaked Israel since the begining of the January and considering I drove the entire Lebanon/Israel border in May, there is not much to worry about there.
Not sure how you are calling them in disarray as they are actively competing with the US in the global oil market making American petro products uneconomical to export. They are also winning in Yemen against the Houthi.
Died on a rescue mission rescuing hostages earning America more good will.
De oppresso liber.
We are not the only NATO forces present in country and the 9,000 is way less than the 100,000+ we had at the height of surge.

You do understand ISIS and the current refuge crisis in Syria wouldn't exist had we not invaded Iraq and later interfered in the Syrian civil war right?

Older men declare war. But it is the youth that must fight and die.
-Herbert Hoover
Sounds like you are signing up your son, and the sons of others, to die for an ideology they do not support.
At least ISIL brainwashes and indocrinates all of their youth before sending them to martyrdom.

Wow. Just wow. That was embarrassing.

Yeah, "BMA", I agree, keyboard commando.

Please lock this thread right now.

Yeah, "BMA", I agree, keyboard commando.

You are really good at using Google images, I will give you that. I'm aware that fire department buses and transport trucks exist. I am also acutely aware that space ships exist. Yes, it is still dumb. We're not talking USAR or wildland. It's not a crew of part time college kids with backpacks and rakes. You have a fire station with firemen and fire trucks and now you want everyone to buy a bus to take instead of the fire truck. You are advocating buying 8-24 duplicate SCBAs, hand tools, saws, flashlights etc. To put on a transport bus. To take to a routine fire. Yes. This is still very dumb. Also if all the firemen take the bus, who is going to be there for the fire engine anyway? I'm starting to see the writing on the wall of why to stop reading this site. I'm arguing with someone on the internet if firemen should take a bus or a fire engine. Time to find a new hobby.

Well since fires are down and most of our runs are EMS or false alarms why don't more departments just send a company in an SUV to everything? Wouldn't that save time and money? :rolleyes:

You are really good at using Google images, I will give you that. I'm aware that fire department buses and transport trucks exist. I am also acutely aware that space ships exist. Yes, it is still dumb. We're not talking USAR or wildland. It's not a crew of part time college kids with backpacks and rakes. You have a fire station with firemen and fire trucks and now you want everyone to buy a bus to take instead of the fire truck. You are advocating buying 8-24 duplicate SCBAs, hand tools, saws, flashlights etc. To put on a transport bus. To take to a routine fire. Yes. This is still very dumb. Also if all the firemen take the bus, who is going to be there for the fire engine anyway? I'm starting to see the writing on the wall of why to stop reading this site. I'm arguing with someone on the internet if firemen should take a bus or a fire engine. Time to find a new hobby.

Probably the dumbest thing I've read on this site in over ten years, impressive

You are really good at using Google images, I will give you that. I'm aware that fire department buses and transport trucks exist. I am also acutely aware that space ships exist. Yes, it is still dumb. We're not talking USAR or wildland. It's not a crew of part time college kids with backpacks and rakes. You have a fire station with firemen and fire trucks and now you want everyone to buy a bus to take instead of the fire truck. You are advocating buying 8-24 duplicate SCBAs, hand tools, saws, flashlights etc. To put on a transport bus. To take to a routine fire. Yes. This is still very dumb. Also if all the firemen take the bus, who is going to be there for the fire engine anyway? I'm starting to see the writing on the wall of why to stop reading this site. I'm arguing with someone on the internet if firemen should take a bus or a fire engine. Time to find a new hobby.

+1 to this. SOP's have the control man flush out the standpipe before hooking-up. However....you can't flush 20 foors worth of water (or 40, 50, ect) and something could very well come through the line and clog at the tip. However, you're much better off with a 1 1/8th smooth bore tip, both for lower propensity to clog and for it's superior penetration ability.
My personal belief is.....automatic/fog nozzles have no place in interior structural firefighting. They have a multitude of applications in brush, rubbish, decon, utility emergencies, exterior and many others....but a straight up house or apt. fire.....i'll take the smooth bore.

"Bottom of Da Hill" - you keep accusing a dispatcher of just dispatching his department to an incident. Don't you think that he/she would have to answer to a Supervisor? How do you know someone didn't call on the phone and tell him/her who to send?
Do everyone a favor, STOP!!!! You are making your whole department look foolish,

Tragedy of this magnitude and people cry because they didn't get to move up to a different fire station.

Tragedy of this magnitude and people cry because they didn't get to move up to a different fire station.

Tragedy of this magnitude and people cry because they didn't get to move up to a different fire station.

Tragedy of this magnitude and people cry because they didn't get to move up to a different fire station.

Tragedy of this magnitude and people cry because they didn't get to move up to a different fire station.

We have standardized our 3 newest engines (and in the future the other rigs as they are replaced will change to this):
Front bumper: nothing (members advised they would rather stretch the same way for trash, brush, car or a structure fire.)
Cross Lay 1: Deadload 200' High Pressure 3" Hose with a gated wye. Used for court yard stretch & supplying FDC.
Cross Lay 2: Deadload 200' x 2 1/2" Hose with akron mini monitor
Rear 1: Deadload 600' x 1 3/4" w/ Task Force Fog. Max stretch is generally 300' leaving a second line available underneath.
Rear 2: Deadload 800' x 2" w/ straight nozzle.
Rear 3: Deadload 600' x 2 1/2" w Straight nozzle
Rear 4: Deadload 800' x 5" LDH Supply
Units also carry:
3) 75' x 2" Standpipe Hose with straight nozzle.
1) 50' x 2 1/2" Standpipe hose
2) 25' x 5" LDH in the pump panel running boards
1) 50' x 5" LDH rolled in pump operators compartment

New Hamburg Fire District, Town of Poughkeepsie. Seagrave engine on order end of summer time frame for delivery.

Tragedy of this magnitude and people cry because they didn't get to move up to a different fire station.

6 people lost their lives and others injured and this is what's bothering you? Get over it. Stop with the favoritism nonsense and the boo-hoo why didn't they call X, Y or Z.
Resources were called as needed during what I could only imagine to be a chaotic and overwhelming scene.

Where was the DES METU? Why have a METU respond from Yonkers when there is one literally up the street?