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This is a problem throughout Westchester County. The average price of a home in Rye is over $1.5 Million dollars. If you can afford a $1.5 Million dollar home, either you are working your ass off to afford it and would never have the time necessary to be a volunteer firefighter, or they simply wouldn't have the demeanor usually associated with persons who volunteer to be firefighters.

Rye needs more paid staffing per shift. They aren't going to solve anything by "recalibrating the dynamics" when volunteers can't even afford to live in the City.

The secret to making a tiller man look good is a considerate driver up front, Sane speed, wide turns and backing up coordination.
It is always a good idea that the driver brings the tiller man along on the run. Many a good firehouse story revolved around this oversight not to mention rows of parked cars that were customized.

I am so happy that the truth came out. So often our police officers are falsely accused of wrong doings. Without those cameras, most of us, including myself, would take the word of what we would consider two highly respected and trusted individuals.
A firefighter, especially a fire captain, is expected to do the right thing. He is assigned to set the standards and be a role model to younger firefighters. He is to lead by example.
Firefighters and Police Officers work side by side many times together in life threatening situations. They attend LODD funerals for each other. There is probably no other group of employees that face more danger in our society today as those police officers and firefighters who we all depend on. There is an Unwritten Brotherhood that is shared by each and every one.
As a retired fire officer myself, I find this incident embarrassing to ALL Fire Fighters. One of our Brother Firefighters just dragged ALL of us through the mud. When you wear that badge and uniform, what you do, both on and off duty, represents everyone of us. You are held to a much higher standard than most other citizens.
So if you make your career as a firefighter, remember whether you are in Georgia, New York City or any place else, what you do on or off duty reflects on ALL of Us.
And by the way, for those police officers that are out there "doing it everyday and every night", I have nothing but the highest respect for you. I just Thank the Good Lord you are there.

I find it pathetic when any municipal or government employee expects preferential treatment. If these are your friends, co-workers or fellow employees why would you expect them to not do their job when you make a mistake? If you get a pass, smile, privately thank the officer and then STFU about it. The more people hear about professional courtesy, the less professional the people involved look. If you get a ticket, smile, thank the officer for doing their job, STFU about it and take your lumps like anyone else.

The two of them should be fired for filing a false complaint. As for arresting them, I think the loss of their jobs would be sufficient learning experience.
Morons.

Two different village departments in the Town of Pelham. The Manor has 3-4 Career on duty. I believe Pelham has 3 on duty (correct me if I'm wrong).

Date: 1-10-16
Time: 15:47
Location: 25 W Sanford Blvd C/S S 5th Ave and S 6th Ave
District: Mount Vernon
Battalion: 18
Channel: Mount Vernon Fire 154.145
Weather: 59F, Rain
Units: Engine 2, Ladder 4, Car 1A
Writer: x635

Description: Rekindle of previous multiple alarm fire this morning (Click here to read that IA)
15:49 Engine 2 on scene, rekindle, dropping a line
15:54 Ladder 4 being dispatched to the scene
16:32 FDMV advising Signal 211 has been transmitted
17:42 Ladder 4 all clear of the scene, no sign of fire, insurance company on scene, Ladder 4 going to Station 3 for fuel, releasing Engine 2 from the scene
Notes:
Mount Vernon Apparatus ID's don't conform to Westchester County Apparatus ID's
Engine 2, Ladder 4, and Car 1A are staffed today by off-duty recalled firefighters from the multiple alarm

Elmsford (NY) Fire Department
Tower Ladder 21
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95' Aerial
22 square foot bucket and dual remote control Akron monitors capable of 2,000GPM
LED Aerial Walkway Lighting
Tethered Remote Outrigger Controls with automatic jack leveling
2000 GPM midship mounted pump with Akron electronic valves and controls
300 Gallon Tank
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Two crosslays with 1-3/4" and 2-1/2" preconnects
High pressure breathing air system with SCBA connections in bucket
Next Generation Pierce Command Zone Electronic Control System
Cummins Onan Hydraulic 10KV Generator w/ dual side electric cord reels
500 Horse Power Detroit Diesel DD13 Engine
Allison 4000EVS Transmission
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All photos by me, Seth Granville http://www.x635Photos.com with special thanks to Elmsford FD Assistant Chief Diaz and Ex-Chief Syd Henry
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Hosted by the Elmsford Fire Department
Saturday, February 6, 2016
Decision making: Interior attack vs. exterior operations.
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I notice fewer & fewer people using the "Like This" button, now of course everyone is not going to "Like" everything but consider the contribution the person made to the topic.
As an example if a person creates an "Incident Alert" and they really take the time to put some details in the story please consider giving them some credit. I have seen some people who no longer post them because it appears no one cares.
If people post some photos of an incident and you like them let them know by hitting that "Like" button.
Good conversation started or comments you agree with in a topic give them some credit hit the button.
Just my opinion
Jim

FDNY does not regularly do this. The FDNY prides itself on aggressive interior attack.
As far as the discussion goes, making conditions more tenable sounds great except, 75% of fire victims die from smoke inhalation. Flowing water through a window to make conditions more "tenable" for firefighters to enter won't save victims. Getting them out of the building will. Since when does a firefighter put the rescue of a civilian at the bottom of the list? The training of firefighters is about developing skills. Firefighters are taught to put out fires from the interior advancing through a structure a certain way. These are just the basics and the basics take time and is not something that is taught in 5 minutes. Firefighters who have battled fires from the inside learn from experience and repetition how to do it better and more effective which allows firefighters to have the skill levels to extinguish fires from inside. When a firefighter shoots a stream through a window all of the skill development is over. There is no skill level to that and only lowers our skills and is a fire service failure. Another example of fire service failure is that we still have firefighters who cannot operate a 2.5 inch line due to poor technique and education.
"A fire department that writes off civilians faster than an express line of 6 reasons or less is not progressive, it's dangerous, because it's run by fear. Fear does not save lives, it endangers them." -- Lt. Ray McCormack FDNY
http://www.firehouse.com/blog/10631380/transitional-attack-is-whack

They can't even get funding to properly staff the radio room for the workload they have, how are they going to staff the Fieldcom?

any pics of the new house?

looks nice

Where did you hear this about their vols? Are they disbanding the vols?

Does Pelham Manor have any interior-qualified members left? Maybe they took themselves off the run card?

Sending Vols to a all career department is a no-no. To Yonker, A very big no-no. Don;t know if the vols can drive in Larchmont, but i know some departments send some of the on duty crew and then back fill with career guys.

Sending Vols to a all career department is a no-no. To Yonker, A very big no-no. Don;t know if the vols can drive in Larchmont, but i know some departments send some of the on duty crew and then back fill with career guys.

I thought I had heard a while back that Pelham didn't have any more volunteers due to the lack of interest of the community, and that carrying the volunteers was too expensive for their insurance.

SIMPLE AND SOUND ANSWER TO ALL OF THIS - CREATE AND ESTABLISH A "COUNTY RUN FIRE DEPARTMENT" THAT IS MANNED BY CAREER (AND STATE CERTIFIED TRAINED) FIREFIGHTERS. THIS WAY, IF YOU HAVE A MAJOR FIRE, BE IT IN YONKERS, MOUNT VERNON, NEW ROCHELLE, WHITE PLAINS, LARCHMONT, DOBBS FERRY, ARDSLEY, NORTH SALEM, YORKTOWN, OR PEEKSKILL, YOU WOULD ALWAYS HAVE A CAREER 'COUNTY' FIRE COMPANY WHO COULD/WOULD FILL IN. THERE WOULD BE NO SUCH THING AS 'MUTUAL AID' AS WITH THE COUNTY RUNNING THE ENTIRE FIRE SERVICES, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO GO AND HELP

No they can't. I don't think anyone is suggesting that they should. What has been suggested for years is a dual response by YHFD and MFC for the part of the YHFD south of the reservoir. The taxpayers should not suffer the unnecessary burden of purchasing this land, funding the construction of the building, maintenance, utilities and what eventually will lead to another apparatus purchase when there is a station from another fire district a mere foot stroll down the road. Subsequently, when a significant event occurs south of the reservoir, the aforementioned MFC substation will, based on history, be dispatched as a mutual aide company anyway. The fire district lines were drawn poorly many moons ago and frankly it makes zero sense for YHFD to have any response area south of the reservoir. The taxpayers of Yorktown Heights have rejected the construction of this station multiple times over the course of many years. The commissioners of the YHFD have, in plain sight, found a way to circumvent the will of the taxpayers by over funding other budgetary line items and then allocating those monies to the building fund as opposed to yielding to multiple rejections to referendum the taxpayers have already weighed in on. Finally, while I have no proof of it, logic would dictate that most citizens living south of the reservoir who are interested in being volunteer firefighters are most likely members of the MFC not YHFD. Therefor it would also make sense that the members of YHFD that are required to staff a full response crew for the apparatus housed in the new station will most likely respond from north of the reservoir where the lion-share of YHFD members reside. As a result, the benefit to those protected by the YHFD south of the reservoir is limited by the fact that the response of members is still coming from from north of the reservoir as it has for decades.
While it is probably easy to think that I'm ranting because I'm a former MFC member, but I have no skin in the game as I live in Florida now, and frankly even if I still lived in the district, the construction of this station doesn't affect MFC's response one bit. MFC never responded to routine calls in YHFD's territory south of the reservoir and I don't believe that YHFD would ever enter into a dual response relationship to do so anyway. MFC has always been a mutual aid company to YHFD's district south of the reservoir and frankly the addition of a single engine company in a sparsely populated area isn't going to eliminate the need to call MFC for mutual aid on larger calls. So for MFC nothing changes. But this rant isn't about MFC its about a poor stewardship of the people's money and the fact that the YHFD commissioners have chosen to brazenly ignore and circumvent the wishes of the people who elected them in the first place. What ever happened to the "consent of the governed?"

How many career staff were on the assignment. 3? 4? If that's all that's on duty at the station on any given shift, isn't Larchmont playing a shell game to begin with?

They should have initiated a Notification Call to all the Larchmont residence to advise them that they are on Fire Watch for the evening. LOL
Very poor judgment by the LFD IMO.

It's hardly fair to bring up one detail of an incident and just say "well that was dumb of them". I haven't heard many of the details of this fire so I'd be interested. What mutual aid units were sent? Was anyone requested and not able to respond? Where there any other incidents in the county at that time causing departments to not be able to send mutual aid?
A 4 alarm fire is a massive incident, even if the entire county were merged into one department I'd imagine that during a 4-alarm incident some areas would be lower on staffing than usual.