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Steve

SUV - Motorcycles Incident on Westside Hwy

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I am sure most of you already heard about this incident in Manhattan on Sunday.

What I am not clear about, is that I read there were over 200 calls to 911 about this gang driving recklessly all over the city.

I was viewing video prior to the incident on the Westside Highway. This gang was driving reckless ( driving on sidewalks, driving in the opposite lane of traffic and not stopping at red lights, to list a few) all over the city way before this incident occured.

Why was there not more done by the NYPD to control this gang?

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You think the NYPD doesn't try to corral these guys? I have seen officers try to stop a group of these guys, they all split off and took off in different directions. It's impossible to chase them as they can weave in and out through traffic. it's not like they are going to respect authority and just pull over when signaled to do so, these guys are on the other side of the law and they know it and they are going to run every time. I have even spoken to a friend who says they have used helicopters to try and pinpoint warehouses or garages where these guys all go back to and have been unable to do so even from the air. They are animals, and the NYPD has their hands full, especially now with one hand tied behind their back thanks to politicians, judges, and a nearsighted public.

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They made a few arrests before the whole incident happened. It's not very easy trying to catch someone on a bike especially if they're willing to run. Some people don't realize, big cruises of bikes happen like this every weekend. Just depends on how some people participating want to act. I saw a group of probably 25 bikes go through white plains last weekend and stop traffic in every intersection on their way through.

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Highway 1 has maybe 4 or 5 cars MAX on a day tour, less at night. Do the math, they cover Manhattan and the Bronx.

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Department policy is do not pursue motorcycles. These motorcyclist do this everyday through the city. If you did pursue them 1. Public is at risk and guarantees someone is getting injured /killed. 2. Lawsuits. In order to catch them you have to do raids of chop shops and warehouse garages where they are stored. Raids have been done it's just that there are so many of these bikers and before this incident it wasn't a high priority. And lastly manpower is so short with the PBA saying one job at a time in effect central has jobs holding and reckless motorcycle is not a priority.

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I liked the Journal News quote by Front Line Soldiers president Peter Douglas: "“It was a great miscommunication,” Douglas said."

"A great miscommunication" Huh? What planet is he on?

I really think he has no comprehension of what actually happened on Sunday. Unfortunately, there are people who made him president of their group.

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Ed from Arizona, here in NYS the new "SAFE" law prevents us from carrying more than 7 bullets...Thanks to Emperor Cuomo and worse his minion Bloomberg won't allow any guns to be carried in NYC by legal owners..(only criminals are allowed to carry as they don't follow any laws now do they?)... these bikers look like they were shutting down the highway and stopping cars like they do everywhere so they can perform their "stunts"..I guess that's the reason for the name "hollywood stunts"..and so it went terribly wrong when an innocent person became scared of a wild mob...I agree they should all lose their licenses, bikes and it's a shame only one of that group is crippled and i have no sympathy for him or his gangsters after scaring a family out for a nice day in the city..that could have been anyone of us in our cars with family...I would leave them on that El or abutment they hit as others suggested as a sign to crotch rocket riders to heed...takes the cuffs off of our police...and put them on those scum-bikers...and I know many real bikers are outraged... but all bikers need to drive like a car..one bike in each lane and not passing in between cars when traffic is slowed..I see way to many using the size of their bikes to get around everyone else rather than follow the rules.. this leads to many to just keep upping the ante until you have these wild "flash gangs" taking advantage like this... there are rules..follow them..

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You can only carry 7 in the gun. Carry more magazines. =) And technically you aren't allowed to CCW in NYC anyway unless LEO or other special conditions (from my understanding). [Links for clarification appreciated]

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Well I would rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6. I know a lot of guys who carry a gun without permission in NYC. I also only know of one Lt in the Bronx who would force an arrest for such violation. I highly doubt though that if this guy was carrying a gun the confrontation would have escalated the way it did. He would have felt no reason to flee, he would have probably been in control of the situation.

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Really? It wouldn't have escalated if the victim was carrying a gun? You're saying that he would have felt more confident and secure against the 200 peaceful, law abiding citizens that were trying to gently get him to slow down for his own safety? Of course they wouldn't have guns themselves - not a single one of them had a prior, right? I'm not going to argue the gun rights issue, but I think the idea that a solitary person might be safer against a gang of any substantial size because they are carrying is ludicrous and can certainly increase the risk of and severity of any injuries sustained and/or dished out.

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Everybodygoes wrote:

"Well I would rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6. I know a lot of guys who carry a gun without permission in NYC. I also only know of one Lt in the Bronx who would force an arrest for such violation."

I am sure there are a lot of Lt's, Sergeants, Detectives and Police Officers that would force an arrest for such violation. Depending on what the person was carrying, it is a felony. Are you saying the Police enforcing the laws is a bad thing?

The point of your post is not exactly clear.

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I guess you forgot, its called discretion. And yeah, when the guy cuts me off and wants to wave his hand in anger cause I am not doing 1000mph in the middle lane I don't get upset, nor do I get upset when someone feels like giving me a menacing look or any other situation you could think of that would warrant one being worried about their own safety.

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