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I have heard that the FDNY is spending a significant amount of money on a "going green initiative" and placing "charge stations" around the City . From what I interrupted, some sort of roadside pillar or fire alarm box looking thing  where ambulances normally sit on an available status when not on a run. Here the ambulance can be plugged in to run accessories, ALS refrigeration,  air conditioning, etc rather than run on high idle...or even run at all. Specifically in Queens and Manhattan to start. 

Is this the first round? Has anyone seen the specs?

12 hours ago, SECTMB said:

 

So, why didn't the City just hire those former Transcare workers and have the money that was funding them redirected to City coffers?

It would seem to be a win/win, the workers keep their jobs, the City gets State certified, trained and seasoned EMS professionals and the Public gets to keep the EMS workers familiar with their neighborhoods.

 

 

Because they had a fresh class of 180 PROPERLY TRAINED EMTs (with no bad habbits or egos) who earned the privilege of wearing that patch on their sleeve through time and commitment.  The City is picking up the slack just fine with another beefed up class to follow.  They may not be street smart right now but they have the proper training to meet the Cities expectations of the best pre hospital care in the world with academic reinforcement of human anatomy & physiology.  The FDNY expects all EMTs to be trained for all the job entails and is done so through the academy....NYC & NYS BLS protocols, Hazmat scenarios, subway safety, driving emergency vehicles, Vehicle extrication, donning specialized PPE,  highway operations, understanding chain of command, fire scene operations,  etc.  Give the graduating probie class a week or 2 in the bronx and they will be plenty street smart.  

If they wanted a secure job they should of signed up in September rather than rely on a private,  for-profit company.  Just my opinion.  The option is always there. Every september the test seems to come out. 

Its New York City. The most vulnerable city to incidents from medicaid and Band-Aids to dirty bombs and terrorism. Anything can happen at anytime...and it will. This is an outstanding resource for any major city whether they sit on their ass all day or constantly on the turn around. They in fact should staff more and be paid a lot more than they are (along with NYC EMS in general but thats a diff argument).

You have a homeless population larger than some rural areas in the country living in confined spaces, IDLH atmospheres, etc. Endless construction accidents or any accident for that mater requiring crush meds or high angle emergencies. The list goes on and the truck will only get bigger as they take on more responsibility; For example, staffing the marine units with rescue medics. 

Just my thoughts. 

If your takeaway from the research information is that "fire is best suppressed from the outside in", then you clearly didn't comprehend the information.

I glanced over it. Nothing I have not heard before at a conferance. I would say "fire is best suppressed from the outside in" is a pretty well rounded general idea of the content in the article.

They mention a lot of tactics in this article. I can agree with some, but not all of the points.

What do imagine a heavy volume of fire is to you? Contents? Fully involved room? 2 rooms? Through the roof?

Im sure you've been around the block and nobody has to tell you...You would be surprised what an 13/4" with a smooth bore and a set between your legs could do. Hell, a lot of Departments are going to 2" with smoothbore for even more GPM and unnoticeable maneuverability differences...

I feel a lot of peoples idea of "heavy fire load"are off in proportion due to the lack lack of fires today all together. Im waiting for the chief to call the 2nd alarm for a smoking cigarette butt on the sidewalk.

Im not saying the tactics in this video are the right ones...but it goes to show you a little aggression can do a lot.

Im a firm believer in quick response, making the stretch, and getting to the fire room.

Research also shows that a nozzle firemn' inside a fire room is like an adrenaline junkie, pig in s*** causing a chemical reaction in the brain of hapiness and accomplishment when the job is done.

Lets admit, we are all stubborn firemn' and this is the real reason none of us will ever agree with these "studies". Thank you for taking the time to find out fire is best suppressed from the outside in but im going to stick with what I was taught 9 years ago. I will also be teaching my kids the same.

(here come the safety nazi's with the firefighter fatality reports...right abouuuuut....

NOW. [by the way im healthy and not heart attack prone.] )

Watch this first: "TRUE VALUES OF A FIREMAN"

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If the code in which will require ALL (even 1-2 story) residential structures to be sprinklered passes in 2015, there will be no need for a Rye Fire Department at the rate houses are being demolished and thrown back up in that city.

Im being sarcastic....Yes an Alarm troubleshooter department will still be needed. I didn't mean to hurt anyones feelings.

Dare I say it? County Consolidation!

Easy....Create two new UHF frequencies to dispatch. As for your pagers....sell your old ones, buy new ones. Shortage? Sorry probie...wait for the next batch. If you wanted to be a real firefighter you would know whats going on without the pager anyway.

If your department really cant afford the transition, then purchase and create a private patch/repeater frequency for your "old" pagers.

BAEOFANG!!!!!! wahooooooo

I personally would have went with a grappling gun instead of a ladder to reach the hose bed.

Low hose beds, ladders on the side.

I respect your opinion and agree with it for the most part. But I will respectfully ask you this; please do not group all of us in this 80% group that you have experienced until you have actually worked with all of us.

I may not be at the firehouse as much as I want to be, or I may not have fought as many fires as you have fought, but I have fought fires, I have done searches for victims many times and have found them, but not the way I wanted to find them and its multiple images I will never get rid of and a source of pain for my pride that I could not help these people. I train hard, harder than any other volunteer in my department, and currently hold many titles that i will not waste time posting. I take pride in what I do and was brought up the right way with that sense of brotherhood, and I learned that brotherhood from those three career FDNY guys I had the priviledge of working with my first 4 years in the fire service on Long Island and will never forget them.

Im not your typical volunteer, and there are others here on this site that are not the typical volunteer either. Dont get me wrong, there are the wackers here that "Play" volunteer fireman, and dress up and think its cool to play with sirens and deck their cars out with all sorts of strobes and flashers and blinky things...not me. I take it seriously. Im one of the volunteers that strongly agree we should have the same training standards and physical fitness requirements that career firefighters have and am actively fighting that with letters to my government reps and FASNY. I blog about it in another firefighters web site I go to frequently as well and try to get others to agree.

I enter the same burning buildings with the same turnout gear and the same set of irons and the same hose line and I agressively attack the seat of the fire just like I am trained to do.

I think the brotherhood has been killed by situations like these (the above mentioned experiences between volunteer and career members). If you look at my experience with the 4 career staff at the large main street fire, should he realy have acted that way towords me? Especially since most would think a young guy like me should be the one picking up the hose instead of the more experienced member? I was doing what my father and other senior guys taught me all my life; respect the senior men and officers, always jump in and help any firefighter no matter what the job, and always be first to volunteer for any assignment.

I am thankfull for all of the replies on this topic as well as all of the messages I received from members regarding brotherhood and sharing your stories with me too. I respect all of your opinions and I am thankfull no major wars have been started yet. Keep the discussion going and share more brotherhood experiences and stay safe. Have a great weekend too!

I'm not comparing you to an "80 percent guy" nor am I comparing anyone on this website to anyone I described. Clearly you are a very active member of your department.

This is my opinion and how I look at it. I'm sorry if I offend anyone.

Unfortunately unless you call a bunch of two faced and/or backstabbing babies and/or useless social clubbers a brother, the brotherhood is stronger then ever. In my opinion, to be considered a "brother" in the Fire Department, you would actually have to be a firefighter, one who has fought a fire or has been of use at a fire. A "good firefighter" who can tell you good story about a job at the kitchen table. Don't get me wrong, I am extremely proud of where I come from. I believe we run one of the most professional organizations around. BUT, I do come from 20/80 firehouse. 20% of us put our whole life into it and 80% are here for the food, funny drinks, and parades. I often find myself listening to real estate competition and stay at home dad stories. It is very rare I use the term brother with anyone. Not even a "thanks, brother". Lack of fires keep social clubbers around and do not interest gung-ho guys to stay active or join, the guys I would probably end up calling a brother.

When I think of "brotherhood" I think firemen who cook together, clean together, train together, go on runs together, and come home together. Even outside the firehouse these men are together.

No offence but I don't put an ounce of trust into the 12%'er just getting by who comes around for his 3 free meals a month and 3 nights out on the town with the boys a year. How does anyone of this description make up a "brotherhood"? Or at least a true "Fire service brotherhood"?

Again, my opinion. What brotherhood?

I understand guys feel FAST should be a rapid search, basic package, and drag this guy as fast as we can. BUT, not every scenario should be treated this way, not every scenario CAN be treated this way. Besides, we have all heard the stories of techniques like this causing more problems than solving.

In my own opinion, FAST is all about thinking outside the box. If FAST were about getting this guy out by simply dragging his @ss down a hallway then it simply would have been done already by the primary companies! It does not always have to consist of your most senior firefighters, but it for sure cannot consist of your newest.

I feel it is very important the team coming into district is a TEAM. By team I mean a group of Firefighters who train together and who respond together when requested. Not 2 engine companies in the community being placed out of service to respond as the FAST Team. (And Im not singling anyone out). As lame as it sounds, these teams should CONSTANTLY be drilling on the latest and buffiest YouTube video techniques available on the internet. You know, the videos of those know it all firemen trying to find the next best thing for the service. It helps, and it makes us think outside the box like I said I believe we should be doing.

They can be simple packaging & Denver drill maneuvers or even breaching a wall to a room of refuge for our victim. Hey, if we can simply drag him out than so be it. But back to what I was trying to say earlier...the through the hole drills, removal off the roof drills, the Blindfolded RIT-Pak familiarization drills, etc, etc, etc all NEED to be done. These are the FAST teams you want responding to your fire ground.

I believe the simple answer to the original question is XYZ department may be able to provide a bad @ss down and dirty basic Engine or Truck Company. But not every department can provide F.A.S.T. service and are smart enough to decline any request if they truly cannot provide a dedicated FAST Team.

Good luck everyone.

A few of my buddies got the typing notice for the test. Not sure what the qualifying word per minute score is. Somebody told them to also keep an eye out for the food consumption evaluation test notice. I think the minimum qualifications are 4 meals and/or snacks before lunch time.

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the guys on the rigs are as they say "tools" and "showoffs" how about get off your lazy a$$ and represent your department professionally. who knows they probably texting to ha ha

Ok Chief, but here in NY the rigs dont get from point A to point B with hopes and dreams. It needs someone to press those little things on the floor called pedals, and turn that round dew hickey sticking out of the dashboard. Perhaps those drivers were the only men available to drive the apparatus due to PROFESSIONAL qualifications/standards.

If this were to happen, will the residence of XYZ department be bumped to The City of New Rochelles residecy list if they took the New Rochelle Firefighter exam a few months ago? Or will Pelham still hire from the Westchester County Towns and Villages lists?<br />

Come on, They are just talking about the possibility of authorizing a study. They have not even started talking to the other municipality yet. Let not start talking about what drapes to buy or the lettering on the trucks yet!

Ok easy there handcuffs, Im just curious. Thanks for your constructive input.

If this were to happen, will the residence of XYZ department be bumped to The City of New Rochelles residecy list if they took the New Rochelle Firefighter exam a few months ago? Or will XYZ still hire from the Westchester County Towns and Villages lists?

Does anyone know how I can reach Lt. Pierce?

The lost art of the fire service at its best. Why not just build robots to do our jobs?

Keep training with the bare minimum and never rely on modern day firefighting tools.

The hose bed on the saratoga rig is no lower than 238, 51, or 29...

There is a reason they put a humman figure in the PE Drawings!

Low:

In the middle:

High:

Why even have an extended bumper on a truck company apparatus?

I would assume having a full bumper provides more impact protection to the cab if someone collides, or "bumps" the bumper.