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Wrong. As with any emergency, as long as you have a plan in place, and that plan is to "Contact X resource for their specialty," then your covered. I'm sure you have sewers and confined spaces in your district. Do you have a confined space rescue team in house, in your department ready to go? If someone is digging a trench, are you required to immediately train and supply them with a technical rescue team specializing in trench rescue out of your department? No.
If the plan in place in your SOG/SOP's is to call for a specialized team, then your department has done their required duty. You can train your members to reach, and throw, but rowing and going is a different skill.
Just as a friendly correction, it's reach, throw, row, go.

Wrong. As with any emergency, as long as you have a plan in place, and that plan is to "Contact X resource for their specialty," then your covered. I'm sure you have sewers and confined spaces in your district. Do you have a confined space rescue team in house, in your department ready to go? If someone is digging a trench, are you required to immediately train and supply them with a technical rescue team specializing in trench rescue out of your department? No.
If the plan in place in your SOG/SOP's is to call for a specialized team, then your department has done their required duty. You can train your members to reach, and throw, but rowing and going is a different skill.
Just as a friendly correction, it's reach, throw, row, go.

My dad Andrew N. Sposta 75th INF 281 DIV also [PCFD RESCUE 40] landed on Omaha beach in the first wave at the age of 20 and came home to my mother. Many Germans that met him that day did not. 2 bronze stars 3 Purple Harts. He was born in Port Chester New York and was a street smart kid that kicked a**. I think about him every day and when things get rough I go back to what he had to face over there and I stop complaning and I go about my day . Thanks dad and every one's dad for what we have today . Your son

A salute to the veterans from all nations who stormed the shores of Normandy 68 years ago today. You saved the world from tyranny.

Most people see EMS as a luxury rather than necessity. Everyone thinks they can control their own medical emergencies. No one is under the illusion that they can control their own house fire. The best example of the average person's priorities is personal finance. People time and again chose to give up their health insurance before forgoing the annual vacation when money gets tight.

Ladder 31 getting the 2nd floor window bars

A while back I had emailed the company AmSafe (number 1 supplier for aircraft airbags) for literature on their airbags for light and general aviation (GA) aircraft. It took them a few months, but they finally got back to me with some paperwork.
Many aircraft today (almost 80% since 2001) are being retrofitted with airbags in the seat belts for the pilots and passengers. From their website (http://www.amsafe.com):
They also sent me the following literature for first responders:
ARFF_News_2010_MayJun_proof.pdf
E509944 Rev E_First Responders Reference Guide.pdf
Instructions for Client Site Access_110411_First Responder.pdf
Part 23 Technical Overview, E508428 Rev M.pdf
The area we live in is saturated with GA aircraft, and while the possibility of one landing in your district during an emergency is relatively low, it still could happen. And with every other type of incident we really need to know the hazards to ourselves and how to properly protect ourselves from them.

A while back I had emailed the company AmSafe (number 1 supplier for aircraft airbags) for literature on their airbags for light and general aviation (GA) aircraft. It took them a few months, but they finally got back to me with some paperwork.
Many aircraft today (almost 80% since 2001) are being retrofitted with airbags in the seat belts for the pilots and passengers. From their website (http://www.amsafe.com):
They also sent me the following literature for first responders:
ARFF_News_2010_MayJun_proof.pdf
E509944 Rev E_First Responders Reference Guide.pdf
Instructions for Client Site Access_110411_First Responder.pdf
Part 23 Technical Overview, E508428 Rev M.pdf
The area we live in is saturated with GA aircraft, and while the possibility of one landing in your district during an emergency is relatively low, it still could happen. And with every other type of incident we really need to know the hazards to ourselves and how to properly protect ourselves from them.

I know I will get crucified for saying this - but here goes.
As a long-time member of the forums, and as someone who generally doesn't hold back my opinions, I have frequently found myself on the receiving end of what I call "over-moderation."
My recent banishment from here came on the heels of a thread I started, begging people not to hijack the thread or turn it into the all-too-common paid vs. volunteer debate. Almost immediately after starting the topic, some chose to go the route I didn't want it to go, I became irritated (some call it pissed off) and fired off. When I went back and forth with someone openly about this, I got banned (I don't know if he did or not, but that's not the point). I then sent a message to the Moderators both here and on my Facebook page with some choice phrases. I spent a few months banned from here, but as you can see, I am back (for now).
Putting aside my personal opinions of certain people running these forums, I still enjoy them for the most part and honestly feel they are an invaluable tool to all of us - provided we use them the right way. I know I've given Seth my word that I will try harder to brush certain things off and not engage in some of my previous behaviors, but I know I'll probably slip up again. I am a very, VERY opinionated person, passionate about what we do with a fairly decent amount of experience and training to support what I say. I've seen friends and family hurt or worse doing this stuff and can only hope that some of the things we talk about on public forums like these will make all of us smarter and more cognizant of the dangers we face.
Another thing to consider...
As others have said in the past, sometimes we just need to put our "big boy pants" on and develop a thicker skin for the criticisms and advice of others. Nobody is perfect, especially me, and we all make mistakes. As members of the emergency service community we're one big family - like it or not - and even though we may constantly fight about things, we still (usually) can pull together when the chips are down. We go through a lot of bad things together and a lot of good too - but we need to put certain stuff off to the side and keep the forums on track to do what they're meant to do, help us all do our jobs better and safer, and to stick with one another when we need it most.
The fire service is a great part of our country's culture and I am so very glad to be a part of it. I've made countless friends doing it, and even more so from just this forum. I know that we all think our own way of doing things is always better than the other guys, but it isn't always the case and coming to online resources like this with an open mind can (and does) help all of us.
Last thought...
In this month's Fire Engineering there's an article on fire department social media policies. I think every Chief, Commissioner and Officer should take the time to read it and understand it. I know I learned a few things reading it which will change certain feces I occasionally spew from my mouth and on to my keyboard!
Thanks for posting this George!

Great way to spend taxpayer dollars.......

Trunked system includes the A-Bank, the B-Bank and the C-Bank.
The A-bank include the truncated frequencies such as Fire-13, Fire 10, and OPS-5. These are the Battalion Zones as well as the truncated operation channels. These are not line of site, and 60-control can communicate with you on these frequencies.
The B-Bank include the truncated frequencies such as EMS -11 and the ambulance to hospital channels. These are not line of site, and 60-control can communicate with you on these frequencies.
The C-Bank on the trunked system works a little differently. It includes normal (conventional) frequencies that you would find on a normal portable radio. This includes, 46.26, 46.14, and the line of site FIREGROUND frequencies which include fire ground 1-8. The FIREGROUND's use a line of site system, and do not work off of repeaters or other enhancements. This is why 60-control cannot monitor any of the fire ground traffic.
There is a HUGE difference between Fire-# Ops-# and Fireground - #. If you're listening on a trunked scanner on the other side of the county, you should be able to hear all of the communication in the A - Bank, all of the communication in the B- Bank, and the traffic that uses repeaters on the C-bank such as 46.26. All fireground traffic, would have to be in the line of sight range to pick up on the scanner,
For a detailed explination of the system, here is the County's power point on how to use it - www.westchestergov.com/emergserv/60control/xts2500_volk3.ppt

A single crime, even a robbery in a sleepy bedroom community, is not indicative of a crime wave so I don't think people in Hastings need to start battening down the hatches. Reasonable security measures and awareness of your surroundings is a good idea no matter where you are whether Hastings or Hoboken.
There are relationships between crime and the economy for sure but even with that, one reported crime is a statistical anomaly.
You also have to consider the nature of the crimes. Most "home invasion" robberies are targeted victims chosen for very specific reasons so the jurisdiction is not the deciding factor.
Now, the stupidity factor knows no geographical boundaries and that exists EVERYWHERE.

Trunked system includes the A-Bank, the B-Bank and the C-Bank.
The A-bank include the truncated frequencies such as Fire-13, Fire 10, and OPS-5. These are the Battalion Zones as well as the truncated operation channels. These are not line of site, and 60-control can communicate with you on these frequencies.
The B-Bank include the truncated frequencies such as EMS -11 and the ambulance to hospital channels. These are not line of site, and 60-control can communicate with you on these frequencies.
The C-Bank on the trunked system works a little differently. It includes normal (conventional) frequencies that you would find on a normal portable radio. This includes, 46.26, 46.14, and the line of site FIREGROUND frequencies which include fire ground 1-8. The FIREGROUND's use a line of site system, and do not work off of repeaters or other enhancements. This is why 60-control cannot monitor any of the fire ground traffic.
There is a HUGE difference between Fire-# Ops-# and Fireground - #. If you're listening on a trunked scanner on the other side of the county, you should be able to hear all of the communication in the A - Bank, all of the communication in the B- Bank, and the traffic that uses repeaters on the C-bank such as 46.26. All fireground traffic, would have to be in the line of sight range to pick up on the scanner,
For a detailed explination of the system, here is the County's power point on how to use it - www.westchestergov.com/emergserv/60control/xts2500_volk3.ppt

Trunked system includes the A-Bank, the B-Bank and the C-Bank.
The A-bank include the truncated frequencies such as Fire-13, Fire 10, and OPS-5. These are the Battalion Zones as well as the truncated operation channels. These are not line of site, and 60-control can communicate with you on these frequencies.
The B-Bank include the truncated frequencies such as EMS -11 and the ambulance to hospital channels. These are not line of site, and 60-control can communicate with you on these frequencies.
The C-Bank on the trunked system works a little differently. It includes normal (conventional) frequencies that you would find on a normal portable radio. This includes, 46.26, 46.14, and the line of site FIREGROUND frequencies which include fire ground 1-8. The FIREGROUND's use a line of site system, and do not work off of repeaters or other enhancements. This is why 60-control cannot monitor any of the fire ground traffic.
There is a HUGE difference between Fire-# Ops-# and Fireground - #. If you're listening on a trunked scanner on the other side of the county, you should be able to hear all of the communication in the A - Bank, all of the communication in the B- Bank, and the traffic that uses repeaters on the C-bank such as 46.26. All fireground traffic, would have to be in the line of sight range to pick up on the scanner,
For a detailed explination of the system, here is the County's power point on how to use it - www.westchestergov.com/emergserv/60control/xts2500_volk3.ppt

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Conference Final here we come!

Well if they don't have the manpower, I reckon you can always put in a call to the State Police.

I want you all to watch this if you haven't already. this is posted on Statter 911 from Watsonville, California. It's a transient hotel fire where the first due companies were faced with a (blank)-storm. FD, civilians and (OMG) cops making rescues and on hose lines before the 2nd due arrived.
http://statter911.co...scues/#comments
Now, when the proverbial brown waste hist the oscullating cooling device, what are you going to do???? Make people watch or utilize what you have safely?
You decide, let people die or make an attempt?

I haven't been on emtbravo in a few days so I sign in and see this topic and I figure I should get another cup of coffee before I read my daily dose of anti cop stupidity... and I was not let down.....
I have said before many times that there is a huge anti cop sentiment on here and it once again reared it's ugly head in this thread and in the thread about the ESU guys getting people of an apartment.
I believe it is incumbent on all of us to do WHATEVER we have to do to get the job done and to keep the public safe. It seems like some on here have forgotten that keeping the public safe is our primary function.
When I happen to be at a scene, even a medical call, I help however I can. If someone from empress says " here hold this" and they hand me whatever, what am I going to say no ??? Of course not I'm going to provide whatever help they need to get their job done. There have been times when a PD member has had to drive an empress bus because the medics were working the patient.. do you think anyone at empress got their drawers in a bunch and complained that a cop was driving the bus ?? Of course not..... this isn't a perfect world, jobs don't always go by the playbook and we all have to be ready for that.
If there is a working structure fire and the YFD is there and i'm walking up to the scene and a firefighter is trying to connect to a hydrant and it's stuck, if he says " hey can you give me a hand here" Of course i'm going to help him without hesitation.. because thats what we do... we help without hesitation.
I could go on and on providing more what if's and giving actualy instances where cops have been asked by other services to help but those of us who are rational know that these troopers rose to the occasion and supported the FD when they needed it.
Great Job Brothers.

There are other departments with large bodies of water and no dive team. Yorktown made a commitment to something because it made sense (given the water in the Town) and their ability to perform the mission. This is to their credit.
Not every can or should have a dive team, or haz-mat team, or technical rescue team. We can't be experts in everything.

Whomever actually did scroll up and rub Messier's head yesterday; keep up the good work! Miracles work, The end of last night's game showed us that.
Me being the superstitious bastard that I am have prohibited myself from the Messier rub. PLEASE, we're all counting on you! lol

good to see some that would rather use there time to train then march in a parade! goodd job to all involved!

The ho-hum spring cleaning detail forced upon me by my lady, lead me to locate this by sheer coincidence this morning, in a box of paperwork stored in the closet! It's a sign!

How dare they? Did anyone check them for "fireproof vests"? Wonder what the NYPD PBA has to say about this? "Who was guarding the hen house while they were playing firemen?"
Sarcasm off! Job well done men.

New 12 was just reporting that the son woke up to his father yelling the the house was on fire. The son crawled down the stairs, made it into the garage where he pulled a string to open the garage door. Then the father was trying to get everyone else out, they were trapped when the house collapsed. It was previously reported that the collapse occured within 10 minutes of the FD's arrival.
The timeline does not quite make sense...but the investigation may determine that.
My big question is, did the detectors work and why did the family have so little time?
The bigest concern, you can clearly see on news 12 footage the damaged lightweight truss floors. These assemblies fall apart in minutes, everyone in the fire service knows this, but we did not fight hard to stop them and the developpers fought to get them. In codes class we were taught that 90% of them are not installled to code (making it even worst). But the fire service has only pushed to get so signs.
This was a relativly new home (built since the state code was passed in 1984) And the code still does not require home sprinklers. This house would still be standing with them and when they built it, the added cost would have only been a few thousand dollars.
The fire service needs to put its money where its mouth is and fight for sprinklers and against light weight construction.

Hours I don't mind, I like popping on to see who had jobs that day or overnight. Days however I agree with you, unless its "the big one" or has some kind of special circumstance I could care less who had a room and contents job 3 days ago.